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Roundlay Mar 30, 2017 @ 5:01am
Throttle on separate analogue inputs: possible?
I'm experimenting with some Dual Shock 4 mappings. It's frustrating that that throttle-up and throttle-down can't seem to be mapped to seperate analogue inputs. E.g. right trigger for throttle up and left trigger for throttle down. Doing so in the axis mapping screen always results in the throttle returning to 50%.

Any way to make this happen?

>inb4 get a HOTAS
Last edited by Roundlay; Apr 1, 2017 @ 10:58pm
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Troll Norris Mar 30, 2017 @ 5:05am 
Maybe by some scripting. The axis is made for sliders without centering. Or you can map axis in some virtual keyboard software to increase and decrease throttle keys.
Last edited by Troll Norris; Mar 30, 2017 @ 5:11am
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Roundlay Mar 30, 2017 @ 5:10am 
Originally posted by Troll Norris:
Maybe by some scripting.

Hm... Are you able to point me in the right direction there? Is this related to the HTML button in the controls menu?
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Troll Norris Mar 30, 2017 @ 5:12am 
There is possible to make some own scripts in game LUA files. I can not remember which one it is right now.
Last edited by Troll Norris; Mar 30, 2017 @ 5:13am
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Roundlay Mar 30, 2017 @ 5:14am 
Originally posted by Troll Norris:
There is possible to make some own scripts in game LUA files. I can not remember which one it is right now.

Cool, I'll look into that! Thanks!
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Chameleon_Silk Mar 30, 2017 @ 6:03pm 
its actually the way windows sees the DS4 that is the issue, at one point these controllers had the behaviour you wanted (including xbox controller) but some update they did to the API changed it to this behaviour.

and yes it sucks, why would you want it to not be 0 pct when not being held in is beyond comprehension and defies logic.
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Roundlay Mar 30, 2017 @ 8:25pm 
Originally posted by Chameleon_Silk:
its actually the way windows sees the DS4 that is the issue, at one point these controllers had the behaviour you wanted (including xbox controller) but some update they did to the API changed it to this behaviour.

and yes it sucks, why would you want it to not be 0 pct when not being held in is beyond comprehension and defies logic.

Oh no... Do you think this makes that kind of functionality impossible, or just tricky?
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Sandy Mar 31, 2017 @ 10:51am 
Is there a specific reason for wanting to use analog triggers for throttle in this case? Considering the functionality you describe, you could just use regular shoulder buttons.
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Roundlay Apr 1, 2017 @ 12:55am 
Originally posted by Sandy:
Is there a specific reason for wanting to use analog triggers for throttle in this case? Considering the functionality you describe, you could just use regular shoulder buttons.

The shoulder buttons are too sensitive/digital for throttle, at least to me. I barely have to touch them and the throttle gets out of control.
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Sandy Apr 1, 2017 @ 1:05am 
Originally posted by Roundlay:
The shoulder buttons are too sensitive/digital for throttle, at least to me. I barely have to touch them and the throttle gets out of control.

I don't get it. The speed for the digital throttle binds are controlled by the game - they're very slow.
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Roundlay Apr 1, 2017 @ 1:07am 
Originally posted by Sandy:
Originally posted by Roundlay:
The shoulder buttons are too sensitive/digital for throttle, at least to me. I barely have to touch them and the throttle gets out of control.

I don't get it. The speed for the digital throttle binds are controlled by the game - they're very slow.

"... at least to me." ;)
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Sandy Apr 1, 2017 @ 1:18am 
Originally posted by Roundlay:
"... at least to me." ;)

Well...

Originally posted by Roundlay:
I barely have to touch them and the throttle gets out of control.

... either you've confused something or you're making a ridiculous exaggeration. You have to hold the throttle up/down key for several seconds to move the throttle lever from one extreme to the other. Nothing can get "out of control" if you accidentally press the key.
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Roundlay Apr 1, 2017 @ 1:22am 
Originally posted by Sandy:
Originally posted by Roundlay:
"... at least to me." ;)

Well...

Originally posted by Roundlay:
I barely have to touch them and the throttle gets out of control.

... either you've confused something or you're making a ridiculous exaggeration. You have to hold the throttle up/down key for several seconds to move the throttle lever from one extreme to the other. Nothing can get "out of control" if you accidentally press the key.

Just measured time from full to no throttle: 0.75s. I appreciate your opinion, but this feels way to jerky for my liking. I don't want the throttle to feel like it has steps.
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Sandy Apr 1, 2017 @ 1:37am 
Originally posted by Roundlay:
Just measured time from full to no throttle: 0.75s. I appreciate your opinion, but this feels way to jerky for my liking. I don't want the throttle to feel like it has steps.

I'm not giving opinions but facts. Those keybinds also do not have steps unless the specific aircraft's throttle lever has steps/detents for afterburner etc. The STOP/IDLE detent though is usually behind a separate keybind.

I'm now strongly convinced you've mapped the wrong controls. The digital throttle binds are somewhere in the engine, flight control, hotas etc categories depending on the aircraft, not in axis commands. If you tell me what you're flying, I can make you a video showcasing just how slow those keybinds are.
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Chameleon_Silk Apr 1, 2017 @ 2:46am 
Originally posted by Sandy:
Originally posted by Roundlay:
Just measured time from full to no throttle: 0.75s. I appreciate your opinion, but this feels way to jerky for my liking. I don't want the throttle to feel like it has steps.

I'm not giving opinions but facts. Those keybinds also do not have steps unless the specific aircraft's throttle lever has steps/detents for afterburner etc. The STOP/IDLE detent though is usually behind a separate keybind.

I'm now strongly convinced you've mapped the wrong controls. The digital throttle binds are somewhere in the engine, flight control, hotas etc categories depending on the aircraft, not in axis commands. If you tell me what you're flying, I can make you a video showcasing just how slow those keybinds are.

its possible not all modules are handling the digital throttle inputs the same way.

I would say you are wasting time trying to use shoulder buttons for throttle though, it'd be much better as rudder... if anything.

not hating just saying save yourself the aggravation.
Last edited by Chameleon_Silk; Apr 1, 2017 @ 2:46am
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Roundlay Apr 1, 2017 @ 3:34am 
Originally posted by Sandy:
Originally posted by Roundlay:
Just measured time from full to no throttle: 0.75s. I appreciate your opinion, but this feels way to jerky for my liking. I don't want the throttle to feel like it has steps.

I'm not giving opinions but facts. Those keybinds also do not have steps unless the specific aircraft's throttle lever has steps/detents for afterburner etc. The STOP/IDLE detent though is usually behind a separate keybind.

I'm now strongly convinced you've mapped the wrong controls. The digital throttle binds are somewhere in the engine, flight control, hotas etc categories depending on the aircraft, not in axis commands. If you tell me what you're flying, I can make you a video showcasing just how slow those keybinds are.

I know they don't step. I said "feels" like they step.

I mapped them correctly :)
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