Land's End level hard to navigate & Rope Mechanics

[Odin7heWanderer]

I've really been enjoying the progression and difficulty until getting to Lands End. Its so damn long and there are some weird angles to navigate and its so hard to get a good jump that you might totally miss your landing grab. Then the fact that you cannot remove the anchor point for a rope without removing your current safety rope is annoying. It would not be a big deal if you could grab the anchored ropes from anywhere on the rope however you can only grab it from the harness point and that is also annoying leaving some ropes unable to get back to as the harness point is too low to reach. It makes this level so difficult to navigate. The birds are great, I hate them with a passion now but its still a great feature in the game.

Is anyone else having trouble on this level or am i missing something critical? I have 3 ropes, the coffee and the spike shoe cleats. I feel that some more route possibles should be added and/or the rope mechanic should be looked into for more of a realistic "safe" approach. It is 1887, its just a few ropes nothing fancy, I love that. I'm just having such trouble making some swings and grabs as the terrain will block you at times, then falling with no rope sending you back to the start is frustrating. This is the one level I have to skip for now and I guess come back too. Its just become too frustrating at the moment and maybe that is part of the game to revisit sites after you get better. I hope so.

[KalleKantola]

Land's End is definitely the first climb I would consider actually hard. Especially since the part after the Crux feels like the true Crux hah. Land's End heavily rewards proper boot jumping (using the cleats CTRL boost and a regular spacebar jump at the same time for real air). Its A LOT more leaps of faith than the previous levels for sure.

However I wouldn't make the map itself easier. I'd change its difficulty rating in the book. Its ranked the same as Old Man and lower than both Evergreen and Hangman. That seems wrong.

As far as ropes go:
- You can remove an anchor point while roped, however its safer to pull out the hammer with a keybind (default is R) and not immersion grabbing it from the belt.
- There's definitely spots where grabbing a rope above the harness would have uses, though funnily enough I hadn't even noticed you cant grab them like that.

[Odin7heWanderer]

Happy to say I moved on to the next level, beat it first try and got the 2 extra ropes and went back to Land's Fall and after a few hours of trying and falling many times i finally made it. Very accomplished feeling for sure. I agree not to make the level easier. This level is very out of place though and a huge challenge compared to the other levels, should be rated more difficult and be placed later in the journal.

With ropes I'm confused what you are telling me. I use the R key to take out my hammer but have to press E to remove an anchor and every time the game forces me to remove my harness before it will even show the ghost image to remove an anchor point or place a new one. I have read in another post the dev made it this way but has thought to look into a possible change. Having 5 ropes pretty much fixes the need to back track to recover your ropes though. It seems its truly a case of needing to "get good" at the game haha.

[Бобёр Шайтаныч]

I can't figure out where to go at all. So I picked up an item for the collection. And then where? Up and to the left? Right to the end? To the right and to the left, and further along the rope? I haven't found any detailed level walkthroughs.

[andosdev]

Originally posted by Бобёр Шайтаныч:

I can't figure out where to go at all. So I picked up an item for the collection. And then where? Up and to the left? Right to the end? To the right and to the left, and further along the rope? I haven't found any detailed level walkthroughs.

As long as you keep moving right, you should get there eventually!

[MrTeacup]

Originally posted by FUPA:

Happy to say I moved on to the next level, beat it first try and got the 2 extra ropes and went back to Land's Fall and after a few hours of trying and falling many times i finally made it. Very accomplished feeling for sure. I agree not to make the level easier. This level is very out of place though and a huge challenge compared to the other levels, should be rated more difficult and be placed later in the journal.

With ropes I'm confused what you are telling me. I use the R key to take out my hammer but have to press E to remove an anchor and every time the game forces me to remove my harness before it will even show the ghost image to remove an anchor point or place a new one. I have read in another post the dev made it this way but has thought to look into a possible change. Having 5 ropes pretty much fixes the need to back track to recover your ropes though. It seems its truly a case of needing to "get good" at the game haha.

i think its well placed for me at least the climbs after are all tougher progressively and well placed but i do agree that the jump from hangman's leap to lands end is big and hard for most newer players to get past but once you do the game becomes much better paced