Forget this game.

[cdizon262]

If you're looking for a isometric survival horror game, then Scarlet Lake looks promising. Check out the demo. It doesn't have the problematic third-person combat view that this game's demo has. What an idiotic design choice. This game should stay as vaporware.

[GODZILLA]

"problematic third-person combat" is the main selling point, this "idiotic" design choice is what is absolutely great and refreshing about the game.

[Yoshikira]

nah im good

[Hack_ZallTTV]

lol.

[AcidSweat]

It's not problematic, but the main seller point as Godzilla said. The problem is that it's poorly implemented. Weapons do d!ck for damage, enemies are too fast, you're too slow, obnoxious qte puzzles when you get grabbed etc.

[Necroth]

I kinda like it

[WolfGrey333]

Bruh I know you did not compare this to Scarlet Lake - It doesnt compare.

[pestkommandant]

Combat needs rework, but overall demo was good. I remember this game.

[NiiiO]

This is such a toxic post, gotta laugh. Comparing two games that aim to do different things is really really funny

[b l e s s e d 狗剩]

Scarlet Lake looks like a bad copy of Holstin

[Yggdrasil Burnes]

Originally posted by NiiiO:

This is such a toxic post, gotta laugh. Comparing two games that aim to do different things is really really funny

It seems that Steam's discussion have become a lot more hostile across the board, and that's saying something.

There's a similar beef between certain players of Stoneshard and Quasimorph, several of which who don't appear to own the games themselves, at least through Steam. Additionally, any time indie devs shout out each other or do collaborative events, there's a sudden influx of hostile responses about "selling out," or blowing their publisher, or trying to make players pick favorites when you can just like both, some, or all of the games or devs in question. If you don't like a game or dev, and don't genuinely think your input might be contributed to the developer's development feedback to maybe better the game they are working on, why do people insist on talking so hatefully about stuff they don't care about? The only time I've ever gotten angry enough to post what I disliked, it was on Caves of Qud's board and review because of their developers, and they didn't seem to appreciate me knowing about and soapboxing their dubious connections.

Off topic, but if you haven't, and intend to: Do not buy Caves of Qud. The developers aren't just snarky firebrands, they are genuinely awful people with verifiable connections to actual underage sex traffickers and I hate that I ever gave them my money.

Holstin seems like a really cool combination of some of my favorite Survival Horror games, and I honestly do not understand some of the criticism of the Tunnel demo. I can see where some players might have jumped the gun before even testing out the 6th stage, and there's some differences between the House and Tunnel demos that need to be addressed, but both systems and presentations could easily meld with each other, and combat feels like it's a very solid foundation that was already fun on it's own for me.