controller

[TheLAWkiller171]

just curious if i can use the controller on this game?

[TheGhostGalleon]

There's no controller support unless you use Xpadder, and even then the controls don't work very good. I'm not good with keyboard+mouse, but I got used to it pretty quickly.

[TheLAWkiller171]

thanks ill just have to get better with the keyboard and mouse its such a hard transition after countless years on a counsil

[Longhaul]

You can actually use an xbox controller...i did for a bit, but these types of games are just better with keyboard and mouse..

[TheDominator]

my right analog stick wont work on here it wont look around

[astrotriforce]

Can anyone CONFIRM if you can use an Xbox 360 controller or not? I'd much rather prefer playing it that way since I'm a console gamer. I tried playing three times on my 360 and each time I got a corrupted save file. :( Which is weird cause other games work fine. So now I'm gonna try playing it via steam. But I have only used keyboard controls once or twice in my life and SUCK at them. So if I could use a 360 controller that'd be awesome. I assume just plugging it in won't automatically sync it with the game since it doesn't support Controllers or so the Steam-feature box says... But if anyone can figure out how to get it to work for sure (or not) I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks!

[Rockhead Gaz]

It doesn't work well with an Xbox 360 controller. In my experience, the triggers don't function, and the right analog stick doesn't work at all. And movement is shaky at best.

[astrotriforce]

Okay thanks a lot.

[em_t_hed]

i dont understand how there's little support for gamepads when this was sold on console as well??

how did they get it to work with the xbox?

[astrotriforce]

I totally agree and I don't understand either. At the very least Bethesda should go retroactively add controller support considering how popular the game is. Many console gamers who now game on PC too thanks to Steam much prefer controller to keyboard. I'm still a keyboard novice and find it the most cumbersome gaming experience of all time. It's like trying to read a newspaper! Such a cumbersome experience given that I didn't grow up reading newspapers!

[JrB908]

@ keyboard and mouse, although it may initially feel like holding a pen in your wrong hand (but in a gaming context) at first, give it time and it will fall into place.

Just roam in safe places to get the feel of it, and avoid combat until you start to get the feel of it. If you are used to controllers, then sure, keyboard for movement may feel clumbsy at first, but once you get used to it, mouse for looking around > analogue stick every time IMO.

[astrotriforce]

Thanks for that observation. :D Yeah that's what everyone says. I don't doubt them, but I think I'm just predesposed to hating it, so it's gonna take even longer for me to like it. I have gotten a bit more used to it after about 20 hours, but it still feels extremely cumbersome. I type for a living and I still gotta look down at the keyboard, for example. And I easily forget certain keystrokes and what everything does. I went as far as writing it down on a piece of paper that I have taped in front of me lol. The mouse looking I'm fine with. It's the keyboard that bugs me. Especially when I have to do weird finger-stretching gymnastics just to reach certain keystrokes, or walking/casting magic at the same time for example. I assume I must be doing something wrong lol. I don't know how anyone can feel comfortable with this. :P

[em_t_hed]

if i was gonna go with a m/kb... id pick a kensington expert mouse any day over a gaming mouse....

1. because it's a trackball that is huge and not thumb controlled
2. i wouldnt have to waste so much space for a large mouse pad that really has no purpose otehr then to make something glide and have the optical react properly
3. its just more comfortable... you look at all the peripherials for gaming like headsets and gaming mice... they're all designed to be comfortable.... what's more comfortable then not having to move your hand all over the place?!?! large headphones with huge padding... mmo mice with so many buttons by the thumb... able to change the weights in mouses.... pads with nice surfaces for smooth action...

it's ridiculous the amount of mouse pads you can find for gaming.... dolla dolla bills y'all.... companies lose that with a trackball....

all the bs you find in forums asking questions about gaming trackballs that don't exist.... all this bs that trackballs are inferior.... i watched a LoL competition last month where one of the competitors was using a trackball!!!

not trying to hijack this thread, but it just seems that 2K went thru a 'no gamepad support for our pc games...' phase when they put the same game on consoles with gamepads only....

this game
bioshock 2
and probably others im missing around the same time period.

the crap they put in the readme txt didn't do anything to make the right thumbstick move the camera...

[JrB908]

Originally posted by astrotriforce:

I easily forget certain keystrokes and what everything does. I went as far as writing it down on a piece of paper that I have taped in front of me lol. The mouse looking I'm fine with. It's the keyboard that bugs me. Especially when I have to do weird finger-stretching gymnastics just to reach certain keystrokes, or walking/casting magic at the same time for example. I assume I must be doing something wrong lol. I don't know how anyone can feel comfortable with this. :P

I know what you mean, although the lazy in me just screen grabs the page with the keys on and prints them out.

The only advice I can offer is use the in game key custimations to put the things that you use the most or find the hardest to reach in a game onto keys that suit you more (I generally remember the keys that I change the most)

In the years gone by, I originaly struggled to get used to gamepads from joysticks ! That said, I think I have probaly racked up the most hours on gamepads these days.

@ Post above RE: track-ball, I have always been interested in trying them, thinkd me might get a reasonally priced one and give it a go.

[JrB908]

Oh, I am currently using TactX mouse, don't bother customising the buttons on that as I am left-handed and the thing is designed for right-handed people so the buttons are on the wrong side for me (wouldn't bother if they were on the right side anyways)

[astrotriforce]

Thanks again for your reply JrB908. I could customize them I guess, but I want to play with the original controls, it's no use getting used to it to help me learn how other games do it, if I customize it. For example, I'd like to be able to immediatly jump into Skyrim and know the controls are the same. If I get used to using new keys, I'd have to re-customize them or may have a harder time going back. Maybe in the future once I really get used to the keyboard controls. IF I do. lol. Haha, joystick to GamePad! That's awesome. I didn't grow up on PC or Atari, anything pre-NES is before my time (I was born in 1984) so that's funny to think about people actually having to get used to a gamepad when going from an old-school joystick! I was shocked to find out that the lil bro of my bro's g/f was born in 1997... I asked him what system he grew up with and he said "Xbox" :P Crazy. I feel so old. :P I grew up with the NES, but he didn't recognize or hadn't seen "in person" most of my old-school consoles, from my NES 2 and SNES 2 and Genesis 3 systems to my Dreamcast. He said he had a friend who was trying to track down a Dreamcast but apparently couldn't find one. It's so weird to think about kids these days who literally grew up on Halo.... I grew up on the ultimate trifecta IMHO, Metroid, Contra and Mario (I'd also toss in Bucky O'Hare and TMNT! :P).