The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Game of the Year Edition (2009)

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Game of the Year Edition (2009)

Asenath Feb 16, 2024 @ 4:03pm
Question about lore and ES Elder Scrolls Timeline?
Fallout games have a fallout bible as well as a timeline and elder scrolls has a timeline but I am wondering in lore and/or timeline if Kvatch got rebuilt (Not by mods) or was Kvatch left as a ruin?
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Heimdall313 Feb 16, 2024 @ 4:29pm 
It's not rebuilt in Oblivion's timeframe. Imperial City is partially destroyed during the end of the plot, and would probably be repaired much sooner than Kvatch because it's less damage and it's the Imperial capital.
Kvatch was destroyed to the point of over 90% depopulation, and there's not much dialogue about rebuilding it. I find it bizarre, as Martin spent most of his life there and barely mentions it after leaving.
Not aware of any books or dialogue in Skyrim that mention Kvatch and were written after Oblivion. so its probably still ruined and abandoned. The small surviving diaspora would probably head to Anvil, Skingrad, or Imperial City. Considering rebuilding the Imperial City followed by the Great War later, its unlikely the time and resources were spent rebuilding Kvatch.
Best source to answer the question would be to see if any books on the Great War mention Kvatch even as a landmark or garrison or something.
Ghost Feb 16, 2024 @ 5:47pm 
It's referenced in "The Great War" so it may have been rebuilt after Oblivion, but that only states that the Aldmeri army bypassed it and Anvil.
theo Feb 16, 2024 @ 9:20pm 
I'd assume it was because it looks like an important node geographically and lore wise there is probably a lot of lesser towns and villages around. Also what would be the point mentioning it in The Great War otherwise
Asenath Feb 17, 2024 @ 5:29pm 
Originally posted by Heimdall313:
It's not rebuilt in Oblivion's timeframe. Imperial City is partially destroyed during the end of the plot, and would probably be repaired much sooner than Kvatch because it's less damage and it's the Imperial capital.
Kvatch was destroyed to the point of over 90% depopulation, and there's not much dialogue about rebuilding it. I find it bizarre, as Martin spent most of his life there and barely mentions it after leaving.
Not aware of any books or dialogue in Skyrim that mention Kvatch and were written after Oblivion. so its probably still ruined and abandoned. The small surviving diaspora would probably head to Anvil, Skingrad, or Imperial City. Considering rebuilding the Imperial City followed by the Great War later, its unlikely the time and resources were spent rebuilding Kvatch.
Best source to answer the question would be to see if any books on the Great War mention Kvatch even as a landmark or garrison or something.
I am guessing eso is not between oblivion and skyrim timeline or is eso not the great war seeing that each faction are at war?
psychotron666 Feb 17, 2024 @ 5:32pm 
Oblivion initially had a faction quest line of you rebuilding kvatch and becoming the Duke of colovia but it got cut. The signet ring was what was left of that quest line.

The intent though was obviously that kvatch gets rebuilt eventually.
psychotron666 Feb 17, 2024 @ 5:33pm 
Originally posted by Asenath:
Originally posted by Heimdall313:
It's not rebuilt in Oblivion's timeframe. Imperial City is partially destroyed during the end of the plot, and would probably be repaired much sooner than Kvatch because it's less damage and it's the Imperial capital.
Kvatch was destroyed to the point of over 90% depopulation, and there's not much dialogue about rebuilding it. I find it bizarre, as Martin spent most of his life there and barely mentions it after leaving.
Not aware of any books or dialogue in Skyrim that mention Kvatch and were written after Oblivion. so its probably still ruined and abandoned. The small surviving diaspora would probably head to Anvil, Skingrad, or Imperial City. Considering rebuilding the Imperial City followed by the Great War later, its unlikely the time and resources were spent rebuilding Kvatch.
Best source to answer the question would be to see if any books on the Great War mention Kvatch even as a landmark or garrison or something.
I am guessing eso is not between oblivion and skyrim timeline or is eso not the great war seeing that each faction are at war?

ESO takes place like 500-1000 years before oblivion.
Heimdall313 Feb 17, 2024 @ 6:47pm 
Originally posted by psychotron666:
Originally posted by Asenath:
I am guessing eso is not between oblivion and skyrim timeline or is eso not the great war seeing that each faction are at war?

ESO takes place like 500-1000 years before oblivion.

^

Also the "lore" of ESO is basically a crock of s*** that never happened. I admit that I actually liked the Skald-King's plotline.
ESO isn't the Great War; the Great War is the Imperial - Dominion War that happened about 20 years before Skyrim and well after Oblivion.
Ghost Feb 17, 2024 @ 6:52pm 
Originally posted by Asenath:
I am guessing eso is not between oblivion and skyrim timeline or is eso not the great war seeing that each faction are at war?

The Great War is the war between the Third Empire and the Third Aldmeri Dominion, led by the Thalmor, who seized power over the Summerset Isles during the Oblivion Crisis.

The war in ESO is refereed to as the Three Banners War, and takes place during the Interregnum - the period between the fall of the Second Empire and rise of Tiber Septim's empire. The three banners being the first Aldmeri Dominion, the Ebonheart Pact and the Greater Daggerfall Covenant.

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Originally posted by psychotron666:
ESO takes place like 500-1000 years before oblivion.

947 before Skyrim, so 746 before Oblivion.
psychotron666 Feb 17, 2024 @ 9:42pm 
Originally posted by Heimdall313:
Originally posted by psychotron666:

ESO takes place like 500-1000 years before oblivion.

^

Also the "lore" of ESO is basically a crock of s*** that never happened. I admit that I actually liked the Skald-King's plotline.
ESO isn't the Great War; the Great War is the Imperial - Dominion War that happened about 20 years before Skyrim and well after Oblivion.

It's obviously canon that the great argonian warrior, anime-titties4lyfe69 was the emperor at one point
Valden21 Feb 18, 2024 @ 9:00am 
Originally posted by Asenath:
I am guessing eso is not between oblivion and skyrim timeline or is eso not the great war seeing that each faction are at war?
Your first assumption is correct. ESO's set at the end of the 2nd Era, during a time period known as the Interregnum. This was the time period between the Second Empire and the Third Empire. The Third Empire is the one seen in all five numbered TES games.
Last edited by Valden21; Feb 18, 2024 @ 9:01am
albrecht Feb 18, 2024 @ 2:19pm 
man that would be cool as hell, is there any mod that adds a questline similiar to this?
RequiemsRose Mar 13, 2024 @ 6:29pm 
Thinks that's one of the ones the game doesn't really bother to clarify. The fact that Kvatch is mentioned in The Great War does bode well for it having been rebuilt but it's not a guarantee either. At least it didn't say they bypassed "the ruins of Kvatch" though, so there's hope.

Then again if the running formula holds we will be finding out in next game that something horrible happened to the empire (my bet is the thalmor/aldmeri dominion) and now, Kvatch and every other Cyrodiilic city is facing an entirely different kind of doom. Elder scrolls loves to do that one (like hearing about the horrible state Morrowind is in while playing this game, or finding out how far the empire fell and how much worse Morrowind managed to get after this game in Skyrim).
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