Question about Enchanting? Silver?

[americanman_4_life]

If I learn a spell to Bound a Weapon... Can I use that ability to enchant an item, like a Ring, Amulet, etc?
What are chances of making said weapon a Silver weapon?

Ok, so here is my ultimate question... I hate the undead creatures that require Silver to kill. I hate carrying Silver to never use, than drop to suddeenly run into a wraith or ghost when I don't have the silver. I have Silver Arrows... I can go through 20 on a wraith and still have to fight it. So to save having to carry the weapon every where... can I enchant a small item like a ring with a permanent Bound "Silver" Long Sword (or any weapon, i'm mostly in blades), so anytime I cross an undead only permeable to Silver I slip the ring on, and have my Silver whatever?? Can it be done??

Thanks.


IF... that is a NO... than I'm considering Enchanting a Silver Dagger/SS/LS with a Turn Undead and Drain/Absorb Health, and maybe add Capture Soul... but I want to avoid that as I don't want to carry weapon in first place. BUT if I have to create said PLAN B weapon, will the enchantments work on ANY/ALL undead? I know when I poisoned earlier weapons to fight some undead, they never effected target, so will enchanted Silver work on Undead?

Again... Thanks.

[americanman_4_life]

And furthermore... any suggestions to fighting the Undead? Mostly Wraiths or ghost likes, they seem to get me. Idea's for working enchantments or what. I suppose if all else fails, I have a staff of fireball, but when that's run out of charge... I need options.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Here are a few things you can do.

Go buy the Bound Dagger spell from Alberic Litte in the Chorrol Mages Guild or Edgar Vautrine at Edgar's Discount Spells in the Imperial City Market.

Go find an enemy.

Cast the Bound Dagger spell and quickly kill one enemy that is alone and make sure the dagger is below 100%. Immediately after you kill it repair the dagger with a hammer back to 100% and quickly drop it on the floor before the bound dagger spell wears off.

When the spell wears off Pick up the dagger off the floor and it is now a permanent weightless daedric dagger that you can use to kill ghosts and other ethereal undead without it affecting your encumbrance since bound weapons are weightless.

Daedric weapons work the same as silver.

Once you create the dagger don't ever cast bound dagger with the dagger in your inventory or you will have to remove it using console.

You can go do a couple easy quests for the Honorblade of Chorrol. Get Seperated at Birth started asap by talking to Reynald Jemane in the Grey Mare in Chorrol. Then go to Cheydinhal and ask around town about the guy. Talk to him and meet him back in Chorrol to complete the quest. Then start Legacy Lost and complete it asap.

Three days after completing Legacy Lost talk to Fathis Ules in Chorrol for the quest Sins of the Father. Then just go kill the Ogre Chieftain in Redguard Valley Cave to get the Honorblade of Chorrol.

Keep the Honorblade of Chorrol and use it. Do not return the sword to complete the quest until level 25.

You can also try and kill Umbra in Vindasel for her sword. It is one of the Strongest Swords in the game and it is also weightless.

Umbra and the Honorblade of Chorrol are both weightless as quest items and can kill ethereal undead.

[americanman_4_life]

Kool... that is a lot to consider... thanks.

[Brandybuck]

You don't need silver weapons to damage ghosts/wraiths, you need silver OR enchanted OR daedric/dremora. So all you need is any enchanted weapon, even if it is fully discharged it still works. Frankly I prefer bound weapons if I don't have an enchanted weapon. No need to do the glitch to make it permanent, just summon it when needed. (advantage: doesn't weigh you down, no need to repair, levels your conjuration, etc).

[americanman_4_life]

Oh ok than... i have 2-3 different enchanted weapons, or more but planning to sell a couple now. But if any enchanted weapon works, than I'm good... never knew that, never risked trying. Thanks.
I'll probably use my Bow of Power (or whatever I called it) w FIRE/FROST/SHOCK damage ea +4/12s and Drain health -16/20s or something to that effect... A custom elvin bow.

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and if i need to pick between silver dagger and steel dagger with same enchantments, is enchanted silver dagger still better against undead?

[Incomparable Groan]

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and if i need to pick between silver dagger and steel dagger with same enchantments, is enchanted silver dagger still better against undead?

I'm not sure I understand the question. But I will do my best to answer...
Silver is a higher tier than steel, so naturally yes. It will do higher damage - However, the silver dagger will *not* gain a base damage bonus simply because it is enchanted. If you've enchanted it with elemental damage, than obviously it will have the elemental damage bonus, but once the charges is depleted, it might as well just be an ordinary silver dagger. Keep in mind that repairing an ordinary silver dagger does not require any armorer skill, while repairing an enchanted one does.

To summerize, An enchanted silver dagger will do more damage than an enchanted steel dagger because the base damage of the silver dagger is higher.
However, an enchanted silver dagger with depleted charges will *not* do more damage than an ordinary silver dagger. They are basically the same weapon.

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In general, spectral undead are completely immune to cold damage, use fire as they have no resistance to that (and may be weak to it but I'm not sure).

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Theory a écrit :

To summerize, An enchanted silver dagger will do more damage than an enchanted steel dagger because the base damage of the silver dagger is higher.
However, an enchanted silver dagger with depleted charges will *not* do more damage than an ordinary silver dagger. They are basically the same weapon.

and what if it's enchanted dwarven dagger (out of charges)?

yes, you answered, thnx, but not exactly what i wanted to know...

in-game arms manual says, that silver is less durable than steel, and it's more expensive because you can do more damage to ghosts and some daedras (not sure wich ones)... so i was wondering, how to know when you are doing this bonus base silver weapon damage against specific creature? in inventory you only see weapons normal damage and enchatments... enchantment doesn't have to be damaging, i know you can harm ghosts with soul trapping iron weapons (even out of charge).

[Incomparable Groan]

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Theory a écrit :

To summerize, An enchanted silver dagger will do more damage than an enchanted steel dagger because the base damage of the silver dagger is higher.
However, an enchanted silver dagger with depleted charges will *not* do more damage than an ordinary silver dagger. They are basically the same weapon.

and what if it's enchanted dwarven dagger (out of charges)?

yes, you answered, thnx, but not exactly what i wanted to know...

in-game arms manual says, that silver is less durable than steel, and it's more expensive because you can do more damage to ghosts and some daedras (not sure wich ones)... so i was wondering, how to know when you are doing this bonus base silver weapon damage against specific creature? in inventoty you only see weapons normal damage and enchatments... enchantment doesn't have to be damaging, i know you can harm ghosts with soul trapping iron weapons (even out of charge).

The manual is a bit confusing I suppose. A silver weapon does *not* do additional damage against undead. What the manual refers to is the fact that Silver and Deadric are the only unenchanted weaponry that can harm ghosts. Any other weaponry will have to be enchanted before it can harm those creatures.
As long as the item is enchanted, you should just go for the weapon with the highest base damage.

And with that in mind, an enchanted dwarven dagger that's out of charges would deal more damage than a silver dagger, as the base damage is higher.

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Theory a écrit :

The manual is a bit confusing I suppose. A silver weapon does *not* do additional damage against undead. What the manual refers to is the fact that Silver and Deadric are the only unenchanted weaponry that can harm ghosts. Any other weaponry will have to be enchanted before it can harm those creatures.
As long as the item is enchanted, you should just go for the weapon with the highest base damage.

And with that in mind, an enchanted dwarven dagger that's out of charges would deal more damage than a silver dagger, as the base damage is higher.

thank you for your answer again. i was just wondering...

i guess i just like how silver weapons look in this game. can't resist a chance to swing silver warhammer every time i find one. ;D