Oblivion is any good? (From someone who played Skyrim a lot)

[Serath ~愛]

Hi
I have played skyrim a lot.
I've modded skyrim a lot, and I will do the same to Oblivion.
But are there mods which improoves graphics?
Makes better faces, body & armor texture?

I am really happy about the modding options for skyrim, that I don't really see WHY I should even buy this game? It's older.. most modders left it for Skyrim.. What does this game have that makes it better than skyrim?
A new world? is that all?
Is it even balanced properly?

I'm mainly interested in the modding aspects of the game, how many options you got.

[SnyprDRGN]

Now! While yes i may like Oblivion more, i will say Skyrim's combat system is amazingly better than Oblivions. In Oblivion, damage was less of a factor and speed was the most important thing. In Skyrim it's more balanced.

[Serath ~愛]

Glynne님이 먼저 게시:

Oblivion can be modded to look quite well, quite a few texture packs exist for it and character model redesign packs. There are also some lighting mods for it too. Enjoy.

Almost on par with skyrim texture?

Necronus - Panda Gamer님이 먼저 게시:

Oblivion is still pretty fun and worth playing to this day, if you can handle the older-style gameplay. It's a lot better than skyrim, in my opinion, mostly due to its simple yet fun gameplay. It has a nice nostalgia factor, too, since it was one of the games I played the most when I was bored and wanted to fool around. With mods, the game becomes even better. Hell, there was a mod where someone made Elsweyr in the south. It wasn't complete, but it was still playable by quite a bit.

Besides, Oblivion has lower spec requirements for the same amount of fun.

Now I don't really want to play it for the nostalgia factor, however the fact that it's spec requirements are lower means there is more room for graphic intense mods, that's how I see it at least.

(Tact. AoS)EPFSniper_Dragon142님이 먼저 게시:

Now! While yes i may like Oblivion more, i will say Skyrim's combat system is amazingly better than Oblivions. In Oblivion, damage was less of a factor and speed was the most important thing. In Skyrim it's more balanced.

I was never really a fan of skyrim combat, felt dull and boring. All you did was spam clicking to win. So I never really liked the Melee combat, however I adore the archery combat in skyrim, if that's possible in Oblivion they might got my money already :P
But saying the combat is worse than skyrim is a little turn off though.. depends on how much worse, and how it's actually worse..

[Ren]

(Tact. AoS)EPFSniper_Dragon142님이 먼저 게시:

Now! While yes i may like Oblivion more, i will say Skyrim's combat system is amazingly better than Oblivions. In Oblivion, damage was less of a factor and speed was the most important thing. In Skyrim it's more balanced.

But Skyrim's combat was trash... All of the TES games have trash combat in fact. You're better off sticking to a different series if you want fun combat.

In terms of quality

Morrowind>Oblivion>Skyrim

Morrowind is a much bigger jump into complication though, as your stats and fatigue have much much more importance than the other three.

Honestly Oblivion is just Skyrim with much better quests and dated graphics. If you loved Skyrim's quests you'll probably find Oblivion's take too much effort and thinking. Same with Morrowind.

[Lend_of_the_Word]

Side-quests are still kinda enjoyable through your first playthrough, combat is worse than Skyrim's though obviously, much cooler mods available, more diverse enemies, only real problem is you'll get tired of seeing the repetitive scenery and the annoying fan. I bought Oblivion back when it first came out, enjoyed it, though when Skyrim came out I never looked back.

[perico2palotes]

Let's call a spade a spade. Oblivion doesn't compare to last gen RPGs, let alone a mainstay like Skyrim. I bought Oblivion's boxed collector's edition on day one. I played the hell out of it, modded the hell out of it, and it was groundbreaking at the time and really fun. Now it's a past-gen title and it shows in every respect: combat, dumb minigames, generic sandbox, no controller support, unusable 3rd person view (if that's your thing) and what not.
Being a mid-2000s game can be problem when we're talking a mid 2000's game that had technology as its main selling point: physics engine, lush forests generator, radiant AI, lip syncing with pro voice acting, etc. Technology wasn't Skyrim's selling point, so Bethesda focused on things like a more detailed sandbox, more polished gameplay, tighter control, you get the idea. How much does TES V improve over IV, you'll have to play IV to find out but if you do be ready for an unpleasant answer. My final advice: if you don't want to feel you're playing a Skyrim downgrade stay away from Oblivion.

[chris183]

the graphics look fine with mods but not as good as skyrims with mods of course its a newer game

i think oblivion has more interesting quests and more pretty environments, lots of sunshine and lush green fields but maybe you wont like it, doing quests is not hard there is plenty to put you in the right direction same as skyrim and there is way less mountains to get in your way all over the place

the problem with oblivion is you could say the leveling system is pretty hard to manage, if you level up a "useless" skill the monsters level will increase everytime you get a level no matter the skill so if you do not level something that is helpful in combat the combat can become very challenging, a lot of people do not go to sleep because it causes your character to level

others will level up very high until they can handle the combat (grinding spells and sneak and whatnot)

another option is to get a leveling balance mod to fix this problem

i dont see how you could think spending 6 dollars on something that could be fun for 100+ hours is a waste

not to mention there is some cool total conversion mods out there for oblivion like Nehrim - At Fate's Edge and Morroblivion

[SnyprDRGN]

perico2palotes님이 먼저 게시:

Let's call a spade a spade. Oblivion doesn't compare to last gen RPGs, let alone a mainstay like Skyrim. I bought Oblivion's boxed collector's edition on day one. I played the hell out of it, modded the hell out of it, and it was groundbreaking at the time and really fun. Now it's a past-gen title and it shows in every respect: combat, dumb minigames, generic sandbox, no controller support, unusable 3rd person view (if that's your thing) and what not.
Being a mid-2000s game can be problem when we're talking a mid 2000's game that had technology as its main selling point: physics engine, lush forests generator, radiant AI, lip syncing with pro voice acting, etc. Technology wasn't Skyrim's selling point, so Bethesda focused on things like a more detailed sandbox, more polished gameplay, tighter control, you get the idea. How much does TES V improve over IV, you'll have to play IV to find out but if you do be ready for an unpleasant answer. My final advice: if you don't want to feel you're playing a Skyrim downgrade stay away from Oblivion.

Skyrim is a downgrade from Oblivion, so please.

chris183님이 먼저 게시:

the graphics look fine with mods but not as good as skyrims with mods of course its a newer game

i think oblivion has more interesting quests and more pretty environments, lots of sunshine and lush green fields but maybe you wont like it, doing quests is not hard there is plenty to put you in the right direction same as skyrim and there is way less mountains to get in your way all over the place

the problem with oblivion is you could say the leveling system is pretty hard to manage, if you level up a "useless" skill the monsters level will increase everytime you get a level no matter the skill so if you do not level something that is helpful in combat the combat can become very challenging, a lot of people do not go to sleep because it causes your character to level

others will level up very high until they can handle the combat (grinding spells and sneak and whatnot)

another option is to get a leveling balance mod to fix this problem

i dont see how you could think spending 6 dollars on something that could be fun for 100+ hours is a waste

not to mention there is some cool total conversion mods out there for oblivion like Nehrim - At Fate's Edge and Morroblivion

I've had Oblivion since 2005 and have invested probably close to 1000+ hours into it and i'm still having much fun with it. So it is WELL worth the price. And the leveling system i like. Makes it more challenging. With skyrim i have to play on Legendary just to get a challenge out of it.

[chris183]

oh i agree i like the difficulty too but its not for everyone

and its one of the main things people used to complain about on oblivion so i thought it was worth mentioning for any potential buyers

i liked the combat better in oblvion than i do in skyrim, fighting in the arena and in a lot of the dungeons was great fun on oblvion also i miss a lot of the spells that didnt get added into skyrim (i mean we just keep losing spells morrowind had a bunch, then they dropped some in oblivion and again in skyrim)

i hope now that xbox one and ps4 are out we can get the elder scrolls going strong again, im a pc guy,but we have to expect that the newer elder scrolls will be ported from console to pc, something that didnt happen before skyrim when it was the other way around, i dont want to feel like consoles is holding the elder scrolls back

[perico2palotes]

(Tact. AoS)EPFSniper_Dragon142님이 먼저 게시:

Skyrim is a downgrade from Oblivion, so please.

This is a thread made by someone asking if he's going to feel the top RPG from the mid 2000s is worth the dollars for someone who's been extensively playing the top last gen RPGs. If you are going to mislead the OP into buying something that, given the specific wording of the OP, it's obvious it's not going to satisfy him/her at least make an effort to provide some points to back up what's just an opinion. To teach by example:

- TES IV it's a mid 2000s game that shows its age on its physics engine, face models, stiff character animations, OS compatibility, stability issues, and what not. In fact, much of TES IV marketing was mainly based on its technology, which was state-of-the-art technology in the mid 2000s but now can only be called average -and that might be too generous.
- Its sandbox content doesn't improve that of Morrowind in nearly any respect other than graphics and physics (refer to the previous point).
- It doesn't support Xbox controller, so if you've enjoyed Skyrim leaning back on a comfy chair be ready for the hunchback experience.
- Some minigames, especially the faces one, not only dumb down many (or most) of the dialogue in the game, not only do they look and play terrible, not only do they highlight some awful (by today's standards) face models - they are also exploitable. In fact the faces minigame is so bad that someone made a mod to remove it altogether. Needless to say the faces minigame was removed from TES V, because TES V is to IV what IV should have been to III in the first place - a refinement of the sandbox and nearly all the core mechanics. TES IV, however, didn't improve III except for technology, usability and streamlining, if you consider streamlined gameplay an improvement.
- Talking about the sandbox: Cyrodil sandbox feels generic; the landscape is really monotonous and feels barren.
- Trips into Oblivion, the main quest core mechanic, are awfully repetitive, and the map tiles look pretty much the same.
- The 3rd person view is unusable.
- Stability is an issue, much more so if you install a bunch of mods.
- You cannot craft your own gear, whereas V sports a pretty flexible enchanting system backed with a smithing system which may or may not be your cup of tea, but at least it's there and opens a breadth of choice for character development.
- Most of the modding community -and ofc Bethesda- have moved on to Skyrim. If you experience issues with modding or compatibility you're pretty much out in the cold (no pun intended).
- Finally, talking about mods, TES V builds in many of the most popular TES IV mods for all kinds of gameplay improvement, like bloody combat, harvesting plants, better map markers...

TL,DR: at the end of the day you're talking the top dog of "next gen" RPGs against the top dog of mid 2000's RPGs. If that doesn't answer your question of whether or not you are going to feel you're going back in time nearly a decade, then nothing will.

[King_0_Hell]

As a gamer who has sat down and played every Elder Scrolls game, I always recommend Oblivion to anyone who is thinking of buying it. It's probably my most enjoyed TES game - don't get me wrong, Skyrim was good, but I felt it could have been far better than it was, considering the era we live in with gaming tech.

Oblivion, for it's time, was widely considered to be among the best RPGs out there, and even today looks impressive, if slightly outdated, but that's nothing some mods can't fix if you so choose.

[SnyprDRGN]

perico2palotes님이 먼저 게시:

(Tact. AoS)EPFSniper_Dragon142님이 먼저 게시:

Skyrim is a downgrade from Oblivion, so please.

This is a thread made by someone asking if he's going to feel the top RPG from the mid 2000s is worth the dollars for someone who's been extensively playing the top last gen RPGs. If you are going to mislead the OP into buying something that, given the specific wording of the OP, it's obvious it's not going to satisfy him/her at least make an effort to provide some points to back up what's just an opinion. To teach by example:

- TES IV it's a mid 2000s game that shows its age on its physics engine, face models, stiff character animations, OS compatibility, stability issues, and what not. In fact, much of TES IV marketing was mainly based on its technology, which was state-of-the-art technology in the mid 2000s but now can only be called average -and that might be too generous.
- Its sandbox content doesn't improve that of Morrowind in nearly any respect other than graphics and physics (refer to the previous point).
- It doesn't support Xbox controller, so if you've enjoyed Skyrim leaning back on a comfy chair be ready for the hunchback experience.
- Some minigames, especially the faces one, not only dumb down many (or most) of the dialogue in the game, not only do they look and play terrible, not only do they highlight some awful (by today's standards) face models - they are also exploitable. In fact the faces minigame is so bad that someone made a mod to remove it altogether. Needless to say the faces minigame was removed from TES V, because TES V is to IV what IV should have been to III in the first place - a refinement of the sandbox and nearly all the core mechanics. TES IV, however, didn't improve III except for technology, usability and streamlining, if you consider streamlined gameplay an improvement.
- Talking about the sandbox: Cyrodil sandbox feels generic; the landscape is really monotonous and feels barren.
- Trips into Oblivion, the main quest core mechanic, are awfully repetitive, and the map tiles look pretty much the same.
- The 3rd person view is unusable.
- Stability is an issue, much more so if you install a bunch of mods.
- You cannot craft your own gear, whereas V sports a pretty flexible enchanting system backed with a smithing system which may or may not be your cup of tea, but at least it's there and opens a breadth of choice for character development.
- Most of the modding community -and ofc Bethesda- have moved on to Skyrim. If you experience issues with modding or compatibility you're pretty much out in the cold (no pun intended).
- Finally, talking about mods, TES V builds in many of the most popular TES IV mods for all kinds of gameplay improvement, like bloody combat, harvesting plants, better map markers...

TL,DR: at the end of the day you're talking the top dog of "next gen" RPGs against the top dog of mid 2000's RPGs. If that doesn't answer your question of whether or not you are going to feel you're going back in time nearly a decade, then nothing will.

Why do you think were even arguing about this. It's to discuss the Pros/Cons of Buying Oblivion or Sticking with Skyrim. So please...do not try to make it seem like were not helping.

[Ren]

perico2palotes님이 먼저 게시:

- Talking about the sandbox: Cyrodil sandbox feels generic; the landscape is really monotonous and feels barren.

Because Skyrim was so unique. Oh man dragons and giants, I've never seen those before.

Seriously, all these things you're praising Skyrim for were either better in Morrowind (unique world) or are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ and better in another RPG franchise (Combat). Oblivion is a nice middle ground between Bethesda trying to push all of their weakest points and the old stuff they were actually good at, like story.

[Serafym71]

ALL BGS games are worth to play right now, and after ten years from now too.
Tes IV is great magnificient immersive game. But.
Oblivion uncomfortable things for Skyrim player:
No armor/weapon crafting.
No killmoves on critical hit.
none of your screenshot will never look as real photo (as its possible in Skyrim)
Unexplainable crashes, even if no mods installed.
That wheel of persuasion, jokes etc is unusable and while i passed through game, my speechcraft didnt increase at all. And all this years later I still dont know how to use that damned wheel.
And yet - on levels higher than 30 you may spend 5 minutes to kill weakest creature like skeever. Some fans believe its very cool, but I believe its simply unbearable, and it makes game unplayable to me on higher levels.
And about speed and jumping with high-leveled skills. You run ridiculous fast, faster than bike, and when you jump you float in air like a little airship 5-10 seconds, you even can change direction while you in air and draw circles or 8 - no gravity, no inertia, no physics at all.

[SnyprDRGN]

Serafym71님이 먼저 게시:

ALL BGS games are worth to play right now, and after ten years from now too.
Tes IV is great magnificient immersive game. But.
Oblivion uncomfortable things for Skyrim player:
No armor/weapon crafting.
No killmoves on critical hit.
none of your screenshot will never look as real photo (as its possible in Skyrim)
Unexplainable crashes, even if no mods installed.
That wheel of persuasion, jokes etc is unusable and while i passed through game, my speechcraft didnt increase at all. And all this years later I still dont know how to use that damned wheel.
And yet - on levels higher than 30 you may spend 5 minutes to kill weakest creature like skeever. Some fans believe its very cool, but I believe its simply unbearable, and it makes game unplayable to me on higher levels.
And about speed and jumping with high-leveled skills. You run ridiculous fast, faster than bike, and when you jump you float in air like a little airship 5-10 seconds, you even can change direction while you in air and draw circles or 8 - no gravity, no inertia, no physics at all.

All of those things listed is what makes Skyrim to easy of a game. Skyrim is the Call of Duty of the TES franchise.

[RobotParty]

At least half the people in this thread are making up complete ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about both the games, and are just bandwagoning the hell out of the games.