Morrowind VS Oblivion VS Skyrim

[Fire Warrior]

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[CapsLockRAGE]

Whichever one you played first will usually be your favorite.

[BrigadierBill]

Nguyên văn bởi N CapsLockRAGE:

Whichever one you played first will usually be your favorite.

Not necessarily. There are a lot of games where I played the older game after the newer one, and preferred the older (or vice versa). Neverwinter Nights and Homeworld for instance. That said, I like Morrowind the most and am able to look past its terrible graphics and basic combat for the rest of the game's content (having played older RPG's makes this easier though).

[RichieEB]

Nguyên văn bởi BrigadierBill:

Nguyên văn bởi N CapsLockRAGE:

Whichever one you played first will usually be your favorite.

Not necessarily. There are a lot of games where I played the older game after the newer one, and preferred the older (or vice versa). Neverwinter Nights and Homeworld for instance. That said, I like Morrowind the most and am able to look past its terrible graphics and basic combat for the rest of the game's content (having played older RPG's makes this easier though).

I reckon theres nothing wrong with the graphics just that the fact you get stuck alot and npcs in your way is soo annoying.

[gnewna]

I like the graphics of Morrowind (although it does look prettier modded), I just couldn't stand the ridiculously slow rate I moved at, and the fact that the map was useless, in that it would look as though I could go a certain way to get e.g. back to Balmora from collecting alchemy ingredients, so I'd spend ten minutes crawling up there, checking every few yards if I could get over the hill next to me, only to find that there was no way east and I was now way too far North. I know the movement pace increases as your athletic skill does, or whatever, but it was just too frustrating, particularly when the hill was barely twice the height of my character, and not especially steep, so there was no way I should have been unable to climb it, unless my character is meant to start off with a severe chronic fatigue type illness or something, and miraculously get better as the game goes on.

[BrigadierBill]

Nguyên văn bởi gnewna:

I like the graphics of Morrowind (although it does look prettier modded), I just couldn't stand the ridiculously slow rate I moved at, and the fact that the map was useless, in that it would look as though I could go a certain way to get e.g. back to Balmora from collecting alchemy ingredients, so I'd spend ten minutes crawling up there, checking every few yards if I could get over the hill next to me, only to find that there was no way east and I was now way too far North. I know the movement pace increases as your athletic skill does, or whatever, but it was just too frustrating, particularly when the hill was barely twice the height of my character, and not especially steep, so there was no way I should have been unable to climb it, unless my character is meant to start off with a severe chronic fatigue type illness or something, and miraculously get better as the game goes on.

That's why I always went for Alteration to get the jump, levitate, and water walking/water breathing spells. Admittedly one of Morrowind's biggest issues is how difficult it can be to walk around. However, just look up online where to find the Boots of Blinding Speed, they're found pretty commonly and they make traveling so much easier.

[Pancakekitty]

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Nguyên văn bởi TimLM:

Oblivion is the worst of them all, just a "horrible" game, not that is is actually horrible, but the weakest of the three, but definitely a GREAT game. Morrowind is the best to date in terms of lore, story, setting and some aspects of gameplay where skyrim has a better fighting system (kind of) and also a decent setting.

Skyrim IS HORRIBLE it's such a boring grind that thinks too highly of itself, it took WAY too long to beat even the main story, there is TOO much to do where you just hate that you can't do it all. Oblivion was my favorite, but I never played Morrowind. Skyrim the only thing I like is the dual wielding, and I thought it looked to busy to be beautiful.

Huh? You can beat the main story of Skyrim in like a day and a half... although, I only played through the Imperial side of things - I don't know about the Stormcloaks.

[Lesskarr Wolf]

heres my order from good to bad 1. oblivion 2. skyrim. 3 morrowind

[Gestaabo]

#1. Oblivion !!!

#2. Morrowind !!!

#3. Skyrim...

[FEZ. TF7]

i played them in this order
1st Oblivion 2nd Skyrim 3rd Morrowind
my order of favourite would be
1st Oblivion 2nd Morrowind 3rd Skyrim
altho the more i play of Morrowind the more i like it so its close between Oblivion and Morrowind

[MarehGul]

Morrowind because I think it has most unnormal location, so you understand you're somewhere far in fairytale. Daggerfall, Oblivion, Skyrim, they all got magick and strange places, but cities and landscape? It just looks common for our world. Morrowind on other hand has really uncoomon and diffefernt architechture and terrains.

[Gestaabo]

Yeah, and in The Shivering Isles when you go to the Sheogorad region of the Vvardenfell district of Morrowind. Shows how Morrowind really is unique in detail with the landscape and architecture.

Nguyên văn bởi TheOneWhoKnocks:

Morrowind because I think it has most unnormal location, so you understand you're somewhere far in fairytale. Daggerfall, Oblivion, Skyrim, they all got magick and strange places, but cities and landscape? It just looks common for our world. Morrowind on other hand has really uncoomon and diffefernt architechture and terrains.

[Freeasabird🕊]

I like Morrowind for it's over all feel it feels like you are a weak nameless nobody going on an adventure and getting Stronger and more skilled and bad a, s, s as you progress. when you get a quest you don't get a quest marker, you get directions to your quest location. and you have to actually FIND the spot you are sopposed to go, i like that.

I like oblivion for it's setting the land is green and Beautiful, i like it more then Morrowind thats for sure. the quests are interesting and so are the Characters. especially Cap'n John luke Picard, it's a shame they had to kill him off at the start ]:/
and i'm not a fan of the character creator. You set a few options to how you want it like were his eyes are, and you go to a compleatly differant area like his chin or something change one thing and EVERY other option changes to counter what you've changed and no matter how much you try to make the character you want you end up makeing the guy more and more ugly because the options are Whiping back and forth to the point were yer guy looks like he was hit with an ugly stick. its best to just change ONE or TWO things then just begin youre game like that :/

Skyrim is awesome, The Character creator is best of all the games but it still has it's flaws. And the leveling system is IMO the best because you can be whatever you want to be. Has anyone ever tried being a Shield Mage? And Skyrim is a nice land and all but I, HATE, SNOW!! O_O i hate winter in genaral. Other then that though it's a land of endless possibilitys. i tend to compleatly ignore the main quest, and just go off and do my own thing. Make my own story, LIVE in the land of Skyrim.

Over all, all the games have thier good aspects that overshadow the bad, and i like them all.

And sorry for any spelling errors i was typing kinda fast X /

[Patriot03]

Oblivion > Morrowind > Skyrim ( Skyrim is by far the WORST )

Oblivion is by far the better game, I know some people have a major issue with graphics but come on, Oblivion looks great! That and if you really want you can download some great texture mods and ENBs ( even re-made models ) Some animation mods as well and you're set. I myself actually choose not to use texture or ENB mods on my own will because the game looks great imo. As far as action based, the combat in this and skyrim is the same with a few differences that being skyrim has duel wielding ( all be it crappily done ) and skyrim has an INFERIOR spell system/staff system. As far as quest Oblivion is much better, skyrim was/is more generic ( 90% of quest in skyrim have you run into a cave or ruin ) where has quest in oblivion are more creative be it mountain lions eating a ladies rats or a group of ghost haunting a ship.

Factions, now you probably have no clue of what I'm talking about if you only played skyrim but in the past 2 elder scrolls games side factions are a GIANT part of the game play! Anywhere from the fighters guild, mages guild, thieves guild, or dark brotherhood you've got top quality quest and game play! Skyrim on the other hand, while it had "some" of the factions or similar ones to it they were dull and lacked any serious content. ( Skyrim lacks fighters guild, the mages guild, and the arena but in their place we get the RIDICULOUS "mages college" which could be finished in 20 minutes and bobs your uncle you're grand master mage. Yea Oblivion doesn't take the easy route like skyrim, and the incredibly boring thieves guild in rifton with a spotty dark brotherhood in the game )

Oblivion has the arena!

All in all Oblivion is FAR more immersive (while that's my opinion, I do believe there is tangent facts and evidence that can prove how a game can be more or less immersive) Its just more engaging its hard to explain properly. There is just something there that keeps you happily playing for hours on end.
What was up with Skyrim's HIDEOUS UI for the inventory? It wasn't functional at all and was obviously designed form the controller! Oblivion wasn't dumbed down like skyrim CLEARLY WAS regardless of what the fanboys claim. That being said I do currently play skyrim ( and oblivion ) and to me skyrim is enjoyable on my PC, 100% thanks to mods, honestly if skyrim had no mods I couldn't manage that UI ( sky UI ftw! ) Just from my experience with modding the 2 games, Oblivion seems to be more stable ( to be clear I have an awesome PC that can run any game on ultra 80 fps, and use full AA in both skyrim and oblivion ) If a mod does something bad or conflicts it will usually simply crash and you could fix or remove the problem. Skyrim on the other hand fights me much more but as for myself I've been able to track every problem and resolve it no matter which game.

I actually believe in some ways oblivion has better graphics than skyirm. A list below.

1: Oblivion has NO "grey overlay" on your screen, so you see the perfect clear picture without a gloomy setting ( that being said when the game is supposed to be dark and gloomy it is within the worlds own lighting.

2: Distant render loading, that's right Oblivion renders more detail in the distance than skyrim! Period. ( I can provide a link here on the steam forums where I discussed and proved with evidence all of my arguments.

3: Everything seems to feel like it fits in and belongs, its hard to explain why it feels this way for me but something to note.

Oblivion Music sound track > skyrim's ( Oblivion's music is just so happy and enjoyable where as skyrim almost comes off as just yelling in my ear )

The general setting of the game, is just more up beat, and it doesn't throw you directly into the main quest like skyrim ( they almost chop your head off! ) Yes in oblivion you start off in the prison and yes you have to do that little quest to get out but the moment you're free you are truly free. ( not sure but I think the quest objective actually tells you "or just explore on your own" or something along those lines.


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Oblivion Better than Skyrim? Thoughts?
Well, I recently went on a forum to discuss if Oblivion is better than skyrim. I made the following responce. but what I want from the rest of you is your opinions and maybe If I missed a good point to have made, you could point it out.

"Oblivion is better than skyrim. The feel and emersion is better.
Skyrim just lacks something, its not very interesting and neither are its cities. Talking with NPCs in oblivion is much better and there is more dialogue. The quest in Skyrim are dull and usually dungeon related where as Oblivion has a ridiculously amazing variety and every quest/ side quest feels fresh. ( And skyrim introduced some NPCs that you can't even talk to, they just say something and walk away, I don't like that design path. )
Another big factor is the magic system, In oblivion using magic feels good, it is capable and you can use a staff for a long period of time. It is powerful and matches the play style of the game very well. In Skyrim its bland, just using the few spells you have and your staff drains its uses in 1 battle. Using spells in skyrim is lame, the fact that you have to hold the spell in your hand ( like morrowind ) means you can't have a freaking weapon, this means most players in skyrim probably don't use spells very often where as in Oblivion even a warrior in Heavy armor could use a few health spells here and there, this kept the player in a mystical feel throughout the whole game, And then we get to staffs, In oblivion a mage would typically use a staff, it was a powerful primary weapon with plenty of uses to get you through days of adventuring. In skyrim even the most powerful staffs drain in just one combat instance, and they usually suck ( staffs of mangus anyone? ) Basically skyrim mages primarily have to use their boring spells ( of which they don't have much variety, In Oblivion you could even create your own spell and staff, + enchanting in oblivion was better ) Basically all around anything magical is better in Oblivion over Skyrim, Especially the mages guild V the lame mages college..

Sesh- ( in responce to reading my post ) "I really like to make mage\warrior hybrids and Skyrim's magic system is just horrible for that. If I want to use anything other than a single one-handed weapon I have to open and navigate through the quick menu or the inventory\magic menus when the quick menu gets confused and puts the spell I was trying to switch to into my weapon hand. In Oblivion I could cast a spell immediately after a swing of my two-handed weapon and there was no confusion when I wanted to change spells as there was only one place, for the spell I was switching to, to be. A big flaw of Morrowind was that you had to switch between magic and weapons if you wanted to use one or the other, I can't believe they reintroduced it in Skyrim."

Fraybone ( in responce to reading my post ) - "The leveling system in Oblivion is way better imo. It may be complex but once you understand it you can make a character that is truely a jack of all trades. I hate that you have to pick either health, magika, or stamina in Skyrim. I agree with almost everything posted. The combat in Skyrim would be nice to have in Oblivion but when skywind is finally released then skyblivion will make leaps and bounds and hopefully not take as long. The one thing I would change in Oblivion is the dungeons. They are a little cookie cutter and not unique. There are a few interesting ones but generally it is all the same. I like how in Morrowind most of the dungeons had their own little stories if you bothered to look for it."
I agree here, the leveling system in Oblivion was much better and made leveling up pretty personal it let you put your points into what you want, and to level up more in say blades, all you have to do is use blades, instead of Skyrim where you directly put points anywhere you want, so I guess you could use a one handed sword in skyrim and put all your points into 2 handed weapons LOL, Basically in oblivion to increase a specific weapon type you had to use that weapon type, and when you did level up you could put points into major attributes, instead of skyrims boring "health,magic,stamina." And in Skyrim you rank up way too fast, in the time it takes to get to level 5 in Oblivion, you can get to level 15 on Skyrim, it was so easy to rank up in skyrim in fact the player left the starting quest already level 2 or 3. This means that you can have more enjoying in Oblivion and even new level is really meaningful, and you doesn't get to level 100 so fracking fast.. ( It really took a long time to rank in Oblivion )

Then we get faction based quest, Everyone agrees on the fact that Oblivion had much better faction guilds to play and experience over skyrim. ( Oblivion Left, Skyrim Right )
Fighter guild > companions
Mages guild > Mages college ( man the mages college thing sucked, was short and felt bad )
Oblivions thieves guild > Skyrims riften thief's

(The Oblivion Arena > Well, skyrim did not have anything to match sadly..[Out of anywhere to have an arena you'd sure think the barbaric lands of skyrim would have them])

And the all time favorite of most ( not mine )
Oblivions dark brotherhood > Skyrims dark brotherhood.

City environment Oblivion > Skyrim.
Things like stores, in oblivion different stores were really different. You had the best defense,discount spells,Smash N Slash,and Stone wall shields etc.
In skyrim it just seems like you go from 1 blacksmith to another, maybe a trader store here and there. That's it!


Open World Oblivion > Skyrim.
In oblivion walking about there is so much to explore and do, bandit camps to fight or strange happenings in a small village to help with etc.
Basically all skyrim has is
1.Caves
2.dungeons
3.bandits in the south
4. Those strange people in the west.
That's pretty much it. Sure there are some small villages here and there just like in oblivion ( less than in oblivion though ) but they don't seem to give much quest and are overall pretty useless to go to.

And don't forget horses, In skyrim buying a horse doesn't feel special, it doesn't seem like a good investment or something you've been saving up for. It takes no thought. See in skyrim there is only 1 bred of horse you can buy, they all cost 1000 and only differ in appearance ( color ) In other words all the horses you buy in skyrim have the same boring slow stats. Where as in oblivion every major city had its own special type of horse, that is a bay horse will be cheap, its not going to be as fast or as tough as a white horse. As such it will cost less too, If you have more money travel to another city and buy the black horse, its the fastest in the game and only the white horse is tougher. And there are other lower class horses such as paint horses etc. All with different prices and different unique stats. This created an immersive feel in Oblivion and made players really think about what they wanted to buy. Where as I said In Skyrim it doesn't make any difference and as such creates a boring environment. ( Oblivions world is larger )

{PS: Skyrim just seems like it lost its soul a little bit, like it didn't have the developers full heart put into it. Matter of opinion I guess}

Creatures. Oblivion > Skyrim.

Oblivion has not only a vastly larger variety of creatures, they are typically more mystical and awesome looking.
Where skyrim took a more boring realistic approach, as seems with their whole design for the game. I like realism don't get me wrong, but Oblivion has something special about its mystical world, It creates a fun environment that you can really get into. Where Skyrim kinda seems like a typical medieval setting and the mystical lore is majorly ignored. You are probably saying ( Dragons! You think dragons are real !?! ) Okay okay, yea skyrim has "mystical" dragons but that's pretty much where it ends, You don't see many flying goblins or ghosts throwing fire at you in Skyrim. Usually its something boring like a bandit or wolves.. Basically Oblivion just feels more mystical if you will.
Skyrim feels more "realistic" despite having dragons I know.
Dragons!, Dragons were so cool the first few hours of the game, then the player realized that everytime he/she travels they will be attacked by one of these boss mobs, and usually more than just once depending on how far you travel. The whole combat style for dragons has a pretty big flaw, that is its WAY harder to kill a dragon with a melee focused player, where ranged people have it easy ( and isn't the dragonborn supposed to be an axe wielding Nord?? Apparently just a bow wielding elf ) Plus there's the fact that you can't walk away from a dragon, where as in Oblivion you can walk away from any Oblivion portal and come back when you are ready for an awesome adventure, To kill an oblivion gate it was = for any character, bow,staff, or axe you were going to have a blast ( in a world randomly selected out of a few different ones ) while there are different colored dragons, you kill them all the same. I much prefer the oblivion gate play style over 1 hideously annoying boss mob from wow.

I've mentioned stores, but how about what they carry, In Oblivion merchants periodically carry special items. They were usually very expensive and powerfully enchanted. If you could save up enough, you could by a seriously awesome weapon which would have a custom name etc.
Whereas in Skyrim for the most part you are buying standard blades from any merchant anytime anywhere. And if you do find a enchanted weapon for sale, its going to have a lame name like "iron sword of flame" and do like 5 pts of fire dmg. That's not even close to the awesome weapons sold in Oblivion.
I can write a whole hell of a lot of stuff to support this, but to save us all times just trust me when I say with. Oblivion implements its lore on a larger scale, you can read important books that are well written and an honestly good read, you can find a note on the floor that would eventually led you on a hunt for some old missing artifact no quest required. You can read about an old building in the woods where something happened. Walk there in game and actually find the house.
Skyrim just missed that mark. It doesn't seem to have much of that type of thing.

( You are saying " But In skyrim I founds a book telling me there was golds in a chest near water" Yea, good for you they put a treasure note and map right in front of the fracking chest, you pick up the note, and stand up you can see the chest -_- In oblivion I found a missing ring worth quite a lot of money { Why doesn't skyrim have a lot of valuable rings/cloths etc? } it wasn't a quest and it took me 2 hours to find. Talk about a feeling of accomplishment. Unlike Skyrims force feed "enjoyment" )

Creatures. Oblivion > Skyrim.

Graphics, Stock Oblivion < skyrim
However people don't realize skyrims failure in the graphics department. for one Skyrim has a dark grey tent to everything in the game, making it look dark and gloomy. Which is sad.. ( Mods can adjust the overlay issue I know, and I use them )
Skyrim's distant LOD looks very bad, and you can't see vary far before it looks just plain hidious, and there is akways some kind of far distance fog that blurs anything at a long distance. This ruins out side feel to the game, it just isn't ralistc. Like I said people rarly mention these issues as failues because they are over looked. But fact is Oblivions Looks much better when you are looking at distant land scapes than skyrim.

So, distance Oblivion > Skyrim.

Stock textures Oblivion < Skyrim.
However there are nomouroes mods for oblivion that enchance textures for weapons,character faces,and clothing etc. The end result is with Mods Oblivion will look on par with skyrim. ( In the texture department )
Faces was a big issues for Oblivion. However there is a mod that completely remakes the oblivion textres and they look better than skyrim faces, its a really awesome face lift for the game. Over all, quality of quest, Oblivion > Skyrim
I think I mentioned some of the most important points I have to make.
There are things skyrims does better, for instance combat (that's not to say Oblivions combat sucks) Skyrim adds crafting which is welcome, and many other nice additives.

And guys, I know there is a lot of love for both games so lets not make this a flame war of fanboys. Both games are great and Skyrim is still an awesome top of the line game. But over all Oblivion does make for a better game. But hey! Were all TES fans! And they are both honorable TES titles.



(PPS: How did I forget to mention mods? Anyway.

Oblivion has more mods and a lot more higher quality mods
There are definitely some good skyrim mods but oblivion has thousands.

The well known git."Oblivion with mods is better than Skyrim with mods"

Basically thanks to the vastness of Oblivions modding community you will have a much better modding experience. ( I role with 120 mods in both Oblivion and Skyrim, I know the sorts. )

{ I never played Morrowind, I know its a shame but I plan on getting it and modding the hell out of it. As such I can't yet reference Morrowind. }"
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PPPS: Oblivion has FAR better caractor cration controls, Skyrim was more simple but lacked the ability to change certain fetures particularly with the face ( although size sliders were a good addition )

[Patriot03]

Oblivion wins by a land slide, Skyrim fan boys really just like saying "LOOK GRAPHICS" even though I still think Oblivion looks great, and in some ways looks better anyway.

[Gestaabo]

My review for Skyrim got a lot of hates, but some people found it useful. Skyrim fanboys if you ask me. I believe you can only descriminate one's thoughts on a game if you played the series and not just that game. Don't get me wrong, Skyrim isn't terrible but it was very dissapointing in my opinion.