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The count is a vampire himself, who can and will actively send you to kill other vampires to protect his people and keep his affliction under wraps...yet he's also somehow oblivious or just doesn't care that yet another vampire also happens to live inside his castle feeding on his prisoners..He won't even mention her. Admittedly, if you mention her to him, he does seem surprised but also doesn't seem too bothered, though iirc I've only mentioned her after killing her, so the problem was already solved. Sure Janus prefers to leave details out he doesn't feel are important but with the relationship you can have with him, already knowing his affliction, possibly being afflicted by him, helping his wife, dealing with his steward, and a few of his other dirty secrets you would think he could at least toss out a "oh hey, try not to get arrested" at least. I suppose he sort of does, at one point he does tell you to stay out of trouble, but it didn't seem like a hint. He had just helped you with an ambush, contextually it seemed more like he wanted you to be less stupid about walking into ambushes.
How funny would it be if the thing Glarthir stumbled upon was the count's secret? or maybe that steward's secret, but since we get attacked almost instantly for even asking for a book, I don't think Glarthir would have lasted that long if he discovered THAT one.
There are several odd things about Skingrad. There's a house full of undead, the count is a vampire, some link between the mages guild there and Argent Dawn (or some other cult, I forget).
It could be any number of things. Glarthir seems to have that special "it's all about ME" paranoia, so even though he thinks that he's stumbled onto something big, and he's convinced that he's a target, he's completely mistaken about what it is. You can tell by looking at his notes; one of the possible groups he mentions is the Marukhtati Selectives, and that group's been gone since roughly about the middle of the First Era because of that Dragon Break he caused. So Glarthir's just grasping at strings, but he doesn't know that. Furthermore, there are a few conspiracies going on in Skingrad, but even though his notes mention them, he proceeds to completely ignore them from then on, and he doesn't even seem to realize the Count's true nature.
I can't say for sure since I have a good number of mods installed, but I *think* you get arrested while stalking the people if you don't tell Dion that Glarthir asked you for help because he thinks there's a plot against him. Dion thanks you for letting him know and tells you to report to the guard if anything else happens, and you get fame for giving a guard the Death List so I think that makes the most sense. You get arrested for suspicious activity and obstruction of justice basically. OR you guys accidentally trespassed probably.
As for guards arresting you for no reason it should be possible to find script for that in the editor, if there is one. That alone wouldn't prove anything though because it makes sense for guards to be concerned about a stranger spying on locals, and you've been warned already. Trespassing accidentally is also a possibility.
There's a lot of environmental storytelling in Oblivion hinting at strange and shady things all over the place so yes I think this quest is intentionally open for interpretation
Valandrus Abor is one of them, think about it. I overheard him saying:
"A primate has better things to do than provide tourist information. Beggars have plenty of time on their hands. I'm sure you'll have much in common."
The Marukhati Selective worshipped the divine primate figure known as "the Missing God" or "Shezarr." This missing aspect of Lorkhan's identity played a significant role in the beliefs of the Marukhati Selective. Pretty odd for him to use that specific wording, given how rare it would be to see a primate in Cyrodil... "Primate" is just not in the vocabulary of Cyrodilic people. Additionally, locals seem to have little regard for his abilities as a priest. "I have no idea why Valandrus Abor even serves at the chapel." This is a quote from Skingrad local concerning Abor, it's likely he isn't putting much effort into maintaining cover. He is arrogant and self-serving, telling people to call him "your eminence". This is odd behavior for a priest of Julianos in particular. As a god of knowledge, wisdom and scholarly learning his followers would approach his position with humility and openness right? Not laud over other people and act as he does. Why would a priest of Julianos of all people refuse to share knowledge and dismiss it as "tourist information" unless he wasn't really a priest at all. This shows he is secretive with information, as an agent would be. Perhaps he is a high ranking Marukhati who finds his current mission tedious and beneath him. Due to how Glarthir is often seen hiding behind the Chapple of Julianos, it makes sense they would choose this location to send a plant to keep a close eye on him.
Abor is seen wandering around Skingrad after mid-day, potentially spying under the guise of "priestly duties" as he goes nowhere in particular. But he isn't acting alone. That would be too suspicious! This is where Bernadette Peneles comes in. She is the perfect agent. She cannot be killed using a poisoned apple, suggesting she is trained in covert tactics and assassination. In Glarthir's notes he recalls how she is one of the few people to show him kindness, clearly in an attempt to get close to him and find out what he knows. Bernadette visits the Chapel every day after 6am. She spends a couple hours there each day. We all know from interacting with shrines it does not take 2 hours to pray to the gods. What else could she be doing there except feeding information to Valandrus Abor? She lives a seemingly happy, quaint life, so has no need to be praying to Julianos for multiple hours a day... Unless she is praying to the god of information for information regarding Glarthir.
The pieces are all falling into place!
This is also true, as Glarthir suspected. It's highly likely Else God-Hater was one of these Marukhati agents originally before becoming a sleeper agent for the Mythic Dawn. She likely started with this group, however their hatred for Auri-El didn't go far enough, so she was disillusioned and switched to the Mythic Dawn where her hatred extended to all gods. The Mythic Dawn claim the Divines are traitors who murdered Lorkhan. As Else was drawn in to this new theology, Valandrus Abor likely recruited Bernadette Peneles shortly afterwards. Else being a skilled warrior meant Abor was powerless to stop Else leaving. Abor let his arrogance show because he could lower his guard the more Glarthir descended into paranoia and was seen as a nutcase to locals.
Look what Else says about Glarthir:
"Not that you'll get anyone else in town to admit it. 'Oh, he's harmless, we're used to him.' Harmless, ha! One day he'll snap. Then watch out."
it's clear she's been watching him. She is the only person to admit he is dangerous, and can recall his antics over the years. Is he dangerous, or is what he knows dangerous? Some strong words coming from a religious fanatic cultist... Glarthir is aware the Mythic Dawn are watching him, he just isn't aware Else was a Mythic Dawn sleeper agent yet. Given time he likely would have known Else was involved in the plot against him.
But why would the Mythic Dawn be watching him? Because in the note in Glarthir's house he claims to know The Blades secret. And what is the Blades secret? It can only be one thing, that the assassination of Uriel Septim was an INSIDE JOB! That's right. Connect the dots.
How did they know exactly where to strike in the secret escape tunnel in the prison? How did they know to ambush Weynon Priory? There has to be a mole inside The Blades. Uriel had seen his fate in a dream and knew he was destined to die in that sewer. Why would he resign himself to this gruesome death instead of requesting a larger amount of troops to at least try and turn the tide or take a different route? Why were they even in a sewer? The palace must not have been safe which could have only been because an inside threat. Uriel must have known The Blades were rotten to the core, and no matter what they would make sure he died. This explains why there are so few Blades left after the assassination. Either the good ones were also assassinated or the corrupt ones fled after the murder.
Glarthir must have caught wind of this which is why the Mythic Dawn are stalking him. To find out what he knows and tie up loose ends.
These fanatics have no problem dying for the cause as they gain access to paradise. Killing a few of their own to maintain cover makes sense. Looking further into this Glenroy raises suspicion. he does in fact want to kill the prisoner, he says "Dammit, it's that prisoner again! Kill him, he might be working with the assassins." A clear attempt to tie up loose ends with an extrajudicial killing. Glenroy also says "We should find a defensible spot and protect the Emperor until help arrives." This shows other Blades knew about this route and would come at a later point making the mole theory a lot more plausible. Either that or Glenroy wanted to lead them to an ambush rather than escape. As for why Glenroy didn't kill Uriel right away? This is because Renault and Baurus were still alive and likely not involved in the plot. Baurus being the most formidable swordsman meant Glenroy would have to wait for the Mythic Dawn to pick them off through brute force. It's important their cover is not blown. However Glenroy was killed in the skirmish. Glenroy would have no problem with dying in battle he gets sent to Paradise and his cover is not blown.
I have been consuming copious amounts of skooma and have figured this all out.
HAHA! That's just what a Mythic Dawn agent WOULD say!
But seriously, I do truly think that Glarthir's confused. Given that the Marukhtati Selectives were so arrogant and fanatic that they caused a Dragon Break, the chances that Akatosh would have left any of them around is incredibly unlikely. It's just too dangerous to reality to ignore anybody who has that level of fanaticism.