Heavily Modded Oblivion Help *RESOLVED*

[General Jelly Jiggler]

I tried posting this to a subreddit but I don't use reddit and apparently don't have enough "karma" to post. Please Help!
I usually just hit my head in a wall until I force games to work with mods but Oblivion has proven to be extremely unstable, from what I'm reading it could have everything to do with my load order (I followed this guide, not to a T, just what I thought to be interesting to come back to after so many years, never did a heavily modded playthrough of Oblivion for obvious headache reasons: https://www.sinitargaming.com/oblivion_gameplay.html) I've been using wyrebash and BOSS for the most part, obmm for at least 2 mods that have multiple options to enable for simply installing them (I'm not very experienced in wyrebash or how to make it install singular mod options, if that's even possible). My main goal is to have a stable, heavily modded playthrough. Any assistance on load order or what mods/patches I'm missing for compatibility or that I should just ditch entirely is most appreciated!

So far only been having random crashes when travelling or some combat (I thought that was pretty normal) but I'm also having crashes when I try to open potion maker which obviously is a problem. Here's my load order:
1: Oblivion.esm
2:All Natural Base.esm
3:Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm
4.CustomSpellIcons-OBME.esm
5.Oblivifall Master File.esm
6.Av Latta Magicka.esm
7.Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
8.UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
9.Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
10.DLCShiveringIsles.esp
11.Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
12.All Natural.esp
13.All Natural - SI.esp
14.Idle Dialogue.esp
15.GOSH.esp
16.GOSH Region Ambiance.esp
17.All Natural - Real Lights.esp
18.00 Realistic Player Speech.esp
19.AddActorValues_example.esp
20.Custom Class Description.esp
21.ShowRaceMenu.esp
22.BetterSaves.esp
23.Display Stats.esp
24.FormID Finder4.esp
25.LootMenu.esp
26.MigWolfRestore.esp
27.StoneMarkers.esp
28.WayshrineMapMarkers.esp
29.Enhanced Hotkeys.esp
30.DLCHorseArmor.esp
31.DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
32.DLCOrrery.esp
33.DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
34.DLCVileLair.esp
35.DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
36.DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
37.DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
38.DLCSpellTomes.esp
39.DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
40.SomewhatRealisticSwords.esp
41.Weapon Improvement Project.esp
42.Weapons Of Morrowind.esp
43.Horse Management.esp
44.DLCThievesDen.esp
45.DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
46.DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
47.Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp
48.Better Dark Brotherhood Sanctuary.esp
49.Fighters Guild Quests.esp
50.Mages Guild Quests.esp
51.DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
52.DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
53.DLCFrostcrag.esp
54.DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
55.Knights.esp
56.Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
57.Oblivion Uncut.esp
58.Oblivifall - Losing My Religion.esp
59.Better Dungeons.esp
60.HUD Status Bars.esp
61.Enemy Weapons dont drop.esp
62.GuildAdvancement.esp
63.Soulgem Magic.esp
64.VanillaCombatEnhanced.esp
65.VCEClassOverhaul.esp
66.StarX Vanilla Vampires Revised.esp
67.DKSpellEffectiveness0Min.esp
68.Magic Effects OBSE Tweaks.esp
69.ActorValueUncapper_Example.esp
70._Ren_BeautyPack_onlyhairs.esp
71.Colourwheels Sexy Oblivion OverHaul.esp
72.All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp
73.Av Latta Magicka - Rebalance Complete.esp
74.Av Latta Magicka.esp
75.Convenient Open Spells.esp
76.Crowded Cities Cyrodiil.esp
77.GOSH - All Natural Patch.esp
78.Knights Infamy.esp
79.lDisplay Skill Perk Effects.esp
80.LINK.esp
81.Marking the Landmarks.esp
82.Mercantile Fix.esp
83.MoreGenericDialogue.esp
84.New skill - Unarmored.esp
85.NPC Plus.esp
86.NUIHotkeys.esp
87.Quest NPCs Run.esp
88.Ultimate Leveling.esp
89.MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
90.Bashed Patch, 0.esp
91.Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp
92.Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp
93.Oblivion_Character_Overhaul_Faces.esp

That's wyrebash. The 2 mods I have installed on OBMM are:
1.HGEC Body with BBB v1dot12-34442
2.Robert Male Body Replacer v52 OMOD-40532-1

[WhateverWorks]

Honestly extremely hard to say because of the sheer amount of mods you're using that have far reaching effects. I run about 60 or so mods compiled into 10 .omods and I install everything via OBMM. Game only very rarely crashes, and this is with OOO and OUT and a few other pretty intensive mods. Best bet is to disable everything, and go through installing and checking one by one until you know where the conflict is.

[General Jelly Jiggler]

Originally posted by WhateverWorks:

Honestly extremely hard to say because of the sheer amount of mods you're using that have far reaching effects. I run about 60 or so mods compiled into 10 .omods and I install everything via OBMM. Game only very rarely crashes, and this is with OOO and OUT and a few other pretty intensive mods. Best bet is to disable everything, and go through installing and checking one by one until you know where the conflict is.

Well thanks for at least replying, been holding off on playing hoping someone else would have done what I've done and have an idea lol. I was dreading that process because, well, it's almost 100 mods.

[lonetrav]

You could use a mod conflict detector. I think there is one contained in the OBMM, and there is a standalone, possibly outdated version on Nexus.
I used the standalone version many years ago when I was experimenting with mods and found it useful. Meanwhile I use no or very few mods (for special purposes) - no need for a mod conflict detector anymore.
Do you really need all these mods to be active at the same time??? There is nothing wrong with it, but don't be surprised when you run into problems.

[General Jelly Jiggler]

Originally posted by lonetrav:

You could use a mod conflict detector. I think there is one contained in the OBMM, and there is a standalone, possibly outdated version on Nexus.
I used the standalone version many years ago when I was experimenting with mods and found it useful. Meanwhile I use no or very few mods (for special purposes) - no need for a mod conflict detector anymore.
Do you really need all these mods to be active at the same time??? There is nothing wrong with it, but don't be surprised when you run into problems.

Well, of course I don't need ALL these mods but they all seemed like they'd work together, from what I understood about the guide I followed. It does run quite smoothly, only issue I had was figuring load order out in a few cases where containers lost their meshes entirely, crashing walking around the wilderness and into cities sometimes, and potion crafting crashing 95% of the time. So should I be using OBMM exclusively or is the wyrebash/OBMM setup I've committed to fine?

[General Jelly Jiggler]

Found the issue! it was NorthernUI advanced alchemy table. Hoping this thread helps someone else.

[WhateverWorks]

DarnUI has a much longer track record with Oblivion and has been compatible with every mod setup I've ever tried. It comes in a few different versions too.

[General Jelly Jiggler]

Originally posted by WhateverWorks:

DarnUI has a much longer track record with Oblivion and has been compatible with every mod setup I've ever tried. It comes in a few different versions too.

Didn't know that! I'd switch but feel kinda locked in with all the NorthernUI patches I've already installed