HELP NEEDED. Game keeps crashing when going through doors.

[Dr.DOINK]

My game keep crashing when going through doors, especially the door to the abandon house that hold the black door for the DBH. i checked event viewer to see what happened and im getting a memory access violation. ive tried the 4gb patch and it didn't work. I need to find the location of the violation and a way to fix it, can anyone help me??

[lonetrav]

Start with verifying your Oblivion installation in Steam, to make sure there are no corrupted files. Then the crashes might be caused by mods or mod conflicts.
Or it's the "cell-change bug", which occurs occasionally when you enter or leave cells (for example, go through doors). The probability increases with the length of your playing sessions, the "solution" is to keep them short (30 to 60 minutes, say - use your own experiences) and to save regularly (to minimise the loss of progress).

[Dr.DOINK]

I have verified game installation and have no mods installed currently. I would assume its the cell- change bug but i cannot find a way to resolve it. It happens right away when i launch and load into the game and try to go thru that specific door

[Wai]

I have had a similar experience after leaving a ruin when I tried to fast travel with my loot. OK, this is not a fix, but, it is the solution which worked for me. I reloaded a previous save, the penultimate save to the one which was giving me problems. Obviously, this meant a longer re-play - annoying - but it got me past the problem.

You might be able to resolve it by using the console player.coc command, but, this did not work for me. I simply crashed when I tried to move after the player.coc command. My guess is that an internal address has been incorrectly allocated and you need to go back to before this happened.

[lonetrav]

Originally posted by Dr.DOINK:

... It happens right away when i launch and load into the game and try to go thru that specific door

Hm, it doesn't sound like the cell-change bug I know. The one I described happens more or less randomly and rarely (or not at all) immediately after I load a game. My personal guess is that it's caused by less-than-optimal memory management when moving from one cell into another. Slowly memory garbage piles up, and sooner or later there is a memory overflow.

Does it happen at the specific door you mention, or at other doors, too? Is it just because you try to use this door more often than other doors? Does it always and reproduceably happen at that door? If it happens elsewhere, too: Does it happen when going through doors only? Does "doors" mean doors only, or, say, dungeon or ruin entrances or Oblivion gates, too? Does it happen while travelling?
And does "crash" mean a sudden crash to the desktop, no error message, no blue screen, no need to cancel a task with the task manager (I have no experience with the event viewer, sorry)?

"No mods installed currently" - does this mean you had mods installed on this PC before? In this case (and especially when the crash always happens at the same door) it might be caused by a leftover from one of the previously installed mods (which might have overwritten a texture or mesh file, for example).
And are the crashes possibly associated with a specific save game? Save game corruption is always a possibility, and the culprit may even be an older. not the most recent one.
I'm simply going through hypothetical possibilities and might be totally wrong.

[Zero]

I'm curious why people need the 4gb patch. I only have 16mb of ram (win 10) and I rarely get crashes, I have no mods either. If the error is memory related then I would make a copy of my save and not just uninstall the game on steam, but go into the folder and delete everything manually, mod folder, documents, all of it. Just a complete fresh install, because if it's only Oblivion then it's in there somewhere. It will create an new ini file and remove any changes to it that mods have made.

If your save has been affected by other mods that you have uninstalled, then that might be more difficult, but it should be okay without the memory patch.

Another rule of thumb that I live by is when your playing a game, do not have a million other things running at the same time, so many things can just hog your memory. Turn it all off.

[lonetrav]

Originally posted by Zero:

I'm curious why people need the 4gb patch. I only have 16mb of ram (win 10) and I rarely get crashes, ...
Another rule of thumb that I live by is when your playing a game, do not have a million other things running at the same time, ...

I suppose you have 16 GB :-). The 4 GB patch is explained there: https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/45576.
I can't judge the content - all I can say is that I'ver never used it and never missed it.

The rule of thumb you mention is a valid one, except that I doubt Oblivion has ever crashed because too many other applications were open. Performance might suffer slightly, but it would be hardly noticeable on modern PCs. And I doubt that there is any relationship between savegame corruptions and the 4 GB patch.

[Dr.DOINK]

Originally posted by lonetrav:

Originally posted by Dr.DOINK:

... It happens right away when i launch and load into the game and try to go thru that specific door

Hm, it doesn't sound like the cell-change bug I know. The one I described happens more or less randomly and rarely (or not at all) immediately after I load a game. My personal guess is that it's caused by less-than-optimal memory management when moving from one cell into another. Slowly memory garbage piles up, and sooner or later there is a memory overflow.

Does it happen at the specific door you mention, or at other doors, too? Is it just because you try to use this door more often than other doors? Does it always and reproduceably happen at that door? If it happens elsewhere, too: Does it happen when going through doors only? Does "doors" mean doors only, or, say, dungeon or ruin entrances or Oblivion gates, too? Does it happen while travelling?
And does "crash" mean a sudden crash to the desktop, no error message, no blue screen, no need to cancel a task with the task manager (I have no experience with the event viewer, sorry)?

"No mods installed currently" - does this mean you had mods installed on this PC before? In this case (and especially when the crash always happens at the same door) it might be caused by a leftover from one of the previously installed mods (which might have overwritten a texture or mesh file, for example).
And are the crashes possibly associated with a specific save game? Save game corruption is always a possibility, and the culprit may even be an older. not the most recent one.
I'm simply going through hypothetical possibilities and might be totally wrong.

It happens at that specific door everytime. Ive had it happen top a couple other doors but not as consistently. Ive not ran into the issue with caves, gates or ruin entrances, never happens when traveling. and that game force closes to the desktop. No blue screen. the exception i get from event viewer is 0xc0000005. I never installed mods or played the game with mods before.

[Dr.DOINK]

Originally posted by Zero:

I'm curious why people need the 4gb patch. I only have 16mb of ram (win 10) and I rarely get crashes, I have no mods either. If the error is memory related then I would make a copy of my save and not just uninstall the game on steam, but go into the folder and delete everything manually, mod folder, documents, all of it. Just a complete fresh install, because if it's only Oblivion then it's in there somewhere. It will create an new ini file and remove any changes to it that mods have made.

If your save has been affected by other mods that you have uninstalled, then that might be more difficult, but it should be okay without the memory patch.

Another rule of thumb that I live by is when your playing a game, do not have a million other things running at the same time, so many things can just hog your memory. Turn it all off.

i will give this a try

[Dr.DOINK]

Originally posted by lonetrav:

Originally posted by Dr.DOINK:

... It happens right away when i launch and load into the game and try to go thru that specific door

Hm, it doesn't sound like the cell-change bug I know. The one I described happens more or less randomly and rarely (or not at all) immediately after I load a game. My personal guess is that it's caused by less-than-optimal memory management when moving from one cell into another. Slowly memory garbage piles up, and sooner or later there is a memory overflow.

Does it happen at the specific door you mention, or at other doors, too? Is it just because you try to use this door more often than other doors? Does it always and reproduceably happen at that door? If it happens elsewhere, too: Does it happen when going through doors only? Does "doors" mean doors only, or, say, dungeon or ruin entrances or Oblivion gates, too? Does it happen while travelling?
And does "crash" mean a sudden crash to the desktop, no error message, no blue screen, no need to cancel a task with the task manager (I have no experience with the event viewer, sorry)?

"No mods installed currently" - does this mean you had mods installed on this PC before? In this case (and especially when the crash always happens at the same door) it might be caused by a leftover from one of the previously installed mods (which might have overwritten a texture or mesh file, for example).
And are the crashes possibly associated with a specific save game? Save game corruption is always a possibility, and the culprit may even be an older. not the most recent one.
I'm simply going through hypothetical possibilities and might be totally wrong.

now its happening every time i try to leave the imperial prison after i kill the imprisoned elf for the DBH. Its crazy how unplayable this game can be. with zero mods and a fresh reinstall

[Zero]

That error code is : The probable causes behind this error could be memory corruption (faulty RAM), malware infection, outdated or corrupt disk drivers, or security updates. When your system can't process files or settings needed for a program or software installation to run correctly, you may receive a 0xc0000005 exception code.

It seems then that the problem is outside of the game. I would make sure windows is fully updated, graphics drivers are updated and do a health check in settings. Running the game as administrator can also help.

[Darf/Fader]

This used to happen to me on Windows XP and always happened when I was exiting a cell, such as leaving a cave, a house I wasn't supposed to be in or from under a fortress.
My solution was to save game just before leaving uncommon places and when Oblivion would crash, I could reload and was able to exit safely every time.

In Windows 10: this bug doesn't seem to occur. I can play straight through for 6 hours with no crashes. As a matter of fact, Oblivion hasn't crashed at all on Win 10. I am finding it quite rewarding.

Just thought I would mention
WinXP on two different PC's, graphics: Nvidia - both had this crash issue.
Win10 graphics: ATI
Different motherboards
Other than the graphics cards, my PC builds were nearly identical.