Fighters Guild progression

[Charlie]

I completed the quest where I should bring one of the Blackwood Company member to Modryn, we got some info and... what to do now? Modryn doesn't have any new dialogues, other members of the guild don't have contracts for me anymore.

[CHASE6]

You have to talk to Modryn after completing The Fugitives and The Wandering Scholar quests, so talked the guild leaders in Chorrol and and Cheydinhal.

[Charlie]

Originally posted by CHASE-6:

You have to talk to Modryn after completing The Fugitives and The Wandering Scholar quests, so talked the guild leaders in Chorrol and and Cheydinhal.

These quests are available long before that quest with Modryn. As I said they don't have anything for me anymore, I've done everything.

[Charlie]

Looks like the quest is broken. Can't load a save before that quest, because it was hours ago. Don't know what to do now.

[lonetrav]

Have you had a look at https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Fighters_Guild#Quests yet? The quest you mention is Information Gathering, and it's supposed to be followed by Infiltration.
Did you get the Amulet of Interrogation?
Here is what uesp says about the transition between the two quests: "When Ajum-Kajin dies at Modryn Oreyn's house in Chorrol, Modryn tells you the next step is to infiltrate the Blackwood Company and its ranks".

And please be aware that using mods or console commands may cause all kinds of problems, one of them is that quests may become unavailable or uncompletable.
It may also help to verify the Oblivion files in Steam.

Originally posted by Charlie:

... Can't load a save before that quest, ...

This sounds like file corruption or changes of the mod configuration. What happens when you try to load? Is there an error message? Again, verifying the game files in Steam might help.

[Charlie]

Originally posted by lonetrav:

Have you had a look at https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Fighters_Guild#Quests yet? The quest you mention is Information Gathering, and it's supposed to be followed by Infiltration.
Did you get the Amulet of Interrogation?
Here is what uesp says about the transition between the two quests: "When Ajum-Kajin dies at Modryn Oreyn's house in Chorrol, Modryn tells you the next step is to infiltrate the Blackwood Company and its ranks".

And please be aware that using mods or console commands may cause all kinds of problems, one of them is that quests may become unavailable or uncompletable.
It may also help to verify the Oblivion files in Steam.

Originally posted by Charlie:

... Can't load a save before that quest, ...

This sounds like file corruption or changes of the mod configuration. What happens when you try to load? Is there an error message? Again, verifying the game files in Steam might help.

I mean it was hours ago when I started this quest, so loading that save is pointless.

[Charlie]

Originally posted by lonetrav:

Have you had a look at https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Fighters_Guild#Quests yet? The quest you mention is Information Gathering, and it's supposed to be followed by Infiltration.
Did you get the Amulet of Interrogation?
Here is what uesp says about the transition between the two quests: "When Ajum-Kajin dies at Modryn Oreyn's house in Chorrol, Modryn tells you the next step is to infiltrate the Blackwood Company and its ranks".

And please be aware that using mods or console commands may cause all kinds of problems, one of them is that quests may become unavailable or uncompletable.
It may also help to verify the Oblivion files in Steam.

Originally posted by Charlie:

... Can't load a save before that quest, ...

This sounds like file corruption or changes of the mod configuration. What happens when you try to load? Is there an error message? Again, verifying the game files in Steam might help.

I got the amulet, the journal says that Modryn is fine with information that we have, but he didn't say anything about next quest. I tried to start next quest via console commands, but everything was broken even more.

[lonetrav]

So "can't load save" means "don't want to load save"? Good to know. Well, it's your decision.
Based on the information you provide, there is nothing else I can add.

[masternoxx1]

did you try to talk at top of stairs
top of FG

[masternoxx1]

you may have to restore an old save

[joeball123]

If you're sure the quest is bugged and you're on PC, you might try looking up how to use the "setstage" console command and try using that to either complete Interrogation or start Infiltration.

[Charlie]

Originally posted by joeball123:

If you're sure the quest is bugged and you're on PC, you might try looking up how to use the "setstage" console command and try using that to either complete Interrogation or start Infiltration.

Read my last message.

[Charlie]

Well, after some stupid things I did, I managed to complete the Fighters Guild, but some things are broken anyway, but at least it's a relief that I've done it. I said that console commands made everything worse, but I tried some more and it worked. If you ever have this bug, then this is what you have to do, I hope it will help: You have to read about the last quests on the wiki or somewhere else, so you will know what is happening, because you have to skip some stages of the quests in order to complete them. If Modryn don't have new dialogues after Argonian died then enter random house or whatever, then type in the console: setstage fgd08infiltration 50 and then leave the location. If you end up in the Modryn's house then everything is okay. Do the last part of this quest. If Modryn don't have new dialogues again, then type in the console: setstage fgd09hist 10. If the door to the Blackwood company is locked then unlock it via console, you have to kill their leader and get the key to the basement, unlock his door too if it's closed. Do the last part of the quest, read on the wiki about what to do if you don't know (I didn't, it wasn't obvious at all). If Modryn don't have dialogue again, then type in the console: setstage fgd09hist 50, you won't get reward, but now you should be able to complete the quest without issues.

[lonetrav]

Originally posted by Charlie:

... If you ever have this bug,...

I doubt that there is a "bug". I just completed the "Information Gathering" quest (with one of my characters who had progressed the Fighters Guild quest series almost to that quest) myself. After the interrogated guy told me about the boss of the Blackwood Company, he killed himself, and then Oreyn completed the quest and gave me the new one. No bug.
Two questions:
- Does this fit with your experiences? Or how did you complete the quest (you said you received the Amulet)?
- Did you use the console to get there (or at any point of time while doing the quest), or to get the Amulet?

[Charlie]

Originally posted by lonetrav:

Originally posted by Charlie:

... If you ever have this bug,...

I doubt that there is a "bug". I just completed the "Information Gathering" quest (with one of my characters who had progressed the Fighters Guild quest series almost to that quest) myself. After the interrogated guy told me about the boss of the Blackwood Company, he killed himself, and then Oreyn completed the quest and gave me the new one. No bug.
Two questions:
- Does this fit with your experiences? Or how did you complete the quest (you said you received the Amulet)?
- Did you use the console to get there (or at any point of time while doing the quest), or to get the Amulet?

"If I didn't experience it, then it's not real"
Yeah man, there is no bug, I was just blind and didn't see new dialogue or Modryn just hates me and that's why he didn't want to continue. You are not the only one out there, you know. Good for you, that you completed it without issues. But me? I was struggling.

[theo]

If a bug cannot be reproduced it probably isn't real or is caused by something else
Hence you've been asked what precisely you did to cause it, and in what order