Oblivion vs Skyrim???

[xAvenger13x]

What do you guys think is better oblivion or skyrim?? Lmk your opinions!(:
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[♠Barney]

i like oblivion more for some reason, the atmosphere is just so nice and "fantasy" like

[Dumah]

Morrowind is better than both. But Skyrim is better than Oblivion. Oblivion is pretty much worst TES installment.

[Conkwer]

Publicado originalmente por horrors:

oblivion only has a good main questline but everything else is terrible

It's not. Main questline is not even that important. Assassins and thieves guilds in Oblivion are much much more interesting.
Even mages guild is better. In Skyrim I can't even call them "a guild", really. It's a joke. Just a bunch of mages who welcomed any random warrior as their leader. Are they really mages?

Skyrim has a good main questline, some random quests and vampires "guild". That's it. All other guilds are a joke

[Halcyform]

Publicado originalmente por Conkwer:

Publicado originalmente por Halcyform:

The only reason Oblivion falls behind is because quality of life stuff like controller support and the godawful leveling system.

It's not that important nowadays since can be fixed with mods.
"controller support" = NothernUI (adds native Xbox controller support)
"godawful leveling system" = Francesco's Leveled Creatures or Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul.

The most annoyance is clumsy animations and potato faces, that can be fixed by some degree but not on the same level as Skyrim or even Morrowind.
There is lot of mods for Morrowind but Oblivion have not a lot of head replacers, unfortunately.

Thanks for the tips, but those don't seem like quality of life at all. I'm fine with copy pasting mods files (after I've reviewed them) but I don't want to have to use mod managers and other apps to install mods. I don't use managers/testers and never will.

If there's a direct way of applying those mods, I'm all for it, but I'm not downloading multiple managers/testers just to mod the game. I'm also not navigating a non secure site for a dependency download that will likely hijack something.

[Worldzworstgamer]

Having come back to the games and finally trying to play them through I would say right now Oblivion has been more enjoyable. Look at blinding snow and similar is absolutely horrible in Skyrim. Oblivion also has Jean Luc Picard voice acting right off the bat so love that. Will my opinion change? Maybe.

[WingedKagouti]

Publicado originalmente por Halcyform:

Publicado originalmente por Conkwer:

It's not that important nowadays since can be fixed with mods.
"controller support" = NothernUI (adds native Xbox controller support)
"godawful leveling system" = Francesco's Leveled Creatures or Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul.

The most annoyance is clumsy animations and potato faces, that can be fixed by some degree but not on the same level as Skyrim or even Morrowind.
There is lot of mods for Morrowind but Oblivion have not a lot of head replacers, unfortunately.

Thanks for the tips, but those don't seem like quality of life at all. I'm fine with copy pasting mods files (after I've reviewed them) but I don't want to have to use mod managers and other apps to install mods. I don't use managers/testers and never will.

You should probably break that habit for Oblivion, unless you're willing to do some manual editing of file dates with Power Shell. And no, it's not the fault of Bethesda, but rather due to the way Valve installs the data files.

While you might not think of it as such, Steam Workshop is a mod manager that has been built into Steam. And the official download sites for the major Oblivion mod managers are just as safe as Steam.

[Etxxu]

I have played III, IV and V and I think V is the worst :S in every way... Only graphics and melee combat la better... But the guilds are kind of jokes ... Magic in Skyrim is far worst and simpliest... All is Focus to combat in Skyrim... Skyrim is the FIFA if fantasy wolrds while Oblivion is a very deep game

[Southernsquash9]

I believe Oblivion has more "heart" to it if you get what I mean, the content feels more original and the quests are more creative (like the dark brotherhood questline). Skyrim has a lot of recycled content in my opinion but is still a great game that I have bought multiple times on multiple platforms and is one of my favourite games ever. Oblivion is probably my overall favourite elder scrolls game because it has a certain magic to it that Skyrim just couldn't recreate to me.

Skyrim is a great game but as someone who has played almost every Elder Scrolls game (besides arena) starting with Morrowind, I always felt like Morrowind and Oblivion had so many more mechanics that just make them so special to me, if Skyrim had some of the content that was in Oblivion it would be the best but as it stands, Oblivion is the best Elder Scrolls game for new players or long time fans of the series.

[Halcyform]

Publicado originalmente por WingedKagouti:

While you might not think of it as such, Steam Workshop is a mod manager that has been built into Steam. And the official download sites for the major Oblivion mod managers are just as safe as Steam.

I've never used Steam Workshop.

[Barick]

Skyrim is the better game hands down. There is a reason they are making another remake and skyrim has around 30k players to 1.5k on oblivion. It has better gameplay, stability, graphics, modding, leveling, combat, skilling. The world is well made, dungeons don't feel as reused, increasing the difficulty is actually fun ECT. Nearly everything is far better other than a few things that most people sadly don't care about.

That said Oblivion had the best theme and story for what I like in games like this and Morrowind was the best for Magic and equipment. My biggest three disappointments with Skyrim.

1. The magic system. I loved the freedom in Morrowind with magic and enchants. It was made worse in Oblivion but in Skyrim they just gutted it. The magic looks cooler in Skyrim yeah, but the system is horrible. I miss

2. Equipment. Same as the magic system, Morrowind was the best with more weapon types, armor types and slots and you could even wear clothing and robes with your armor. Things got worse in Oblivion and even more so in Skyrim. There are also a lack of unique items in my opinion. Smithing is just so good that the unique items you do find are just meh compared to what you craft yourself. I'm a little mixed on this as smithing your own stuff is cool but it makes new equipment kinda boring.

3. Guilds. Skyrim guilds are just not as good as in Oblivion. I thought the thieves guild was ok, could be better. The companions was bad, felt super rushed. I did not like the DBH and even the mage stuff was a disappointment. It's kinda sad you can become the arch mage without even using magic.

I felt like Skyrims guild system had a ton of potential that was wasted.

[lefty1117]

I hope that Oblivion remake in Skyrim project pans out, because it's tough to go back to Oblivion after being used to Skyrim. But Oblivion had its good points. Still though I saw a video of the project and while it looks impressive, it also looks like it has years to go. This game could really use the remaster/remake treatment from Bethesda. Like what EA did for Mass Effect Legendary edition.

[Heimdall313]

Skyrim is way better for two-handed and archery builds. Its the best for the Nord barbarian RP that doesn't use magic, or just sticks with Restoration.
Oblivion is far, far superior for literally anything that uses magic. Guilds are much better. The Dark Brotherhood in Oblivion is particularly famous. Alteration is actually usable. Conjuration has options beyond Atronachs + Dremora for Daedra and you can actually summon undead; Skyrim actually has reanimation without mods though.

Skyrim has Smithing, which is incredibly useful. Oblivion, good luck finding a helmet. Skyrim has a basically perfect levelling system... for an action game. Oblivion has attributes in addition to skills, while races and genders have actual differences (most are minor, some are Bretons being OP as hell) as a much more robust RPG. Oblivion is rigorous in its levelling, and requires mods to level up without spreadsheets and autism. I spent 1000+ hours on PS3 Oblivion (thus, no mods and half the DLC), I can juggle spreadsheet leveling four chars at once, but I very much enjoy Easy Leveling.

Skyrim has native controller support; Oblivion requires modding. Skyrim is playable vanilla, Oblivion is a punishment without mods.

imo, Oblivion with a small amount of modding is absolutely incredible. Skyrim I'll play but Oblivion is just immaculate.

[Mayo]

Publicado originalmente por Heimdall313:

Skyrim is way better for two-handed and archery builds. Its the best for the Nord barbarian RP that doesn't use magic, or just sticks with Restoration.
Oblivion is far, far superior for literally anything that uses magic. Guilds are much better. The Dark Brotherhood in Oblivion is particularly famous. Alteration is actually usable. Conjuration has options beyond Atronachs + Dremora for Daedra and you can actually summon undead; Skyrim actually has reanimation without mods though.

Skyrim has Smithing, which is incredibly useful. Oblivion, good luck finding a helmet. Skyrim has a basically perfect levelling system... for an action game. Oblivion has attributes in addition to skills, while races and genders have actual differences (most are minor, some are Bretons being OP as hell) as a much more robust RPG. Oblivion is rigorous in its levelling, and requires mods to level up without spreadsheets and autism. I spent 1000+ hours on PS3 Oblivion (thus, no mods and half the DLC), I can juggle spreadsheet leveling four chars at once, but I very much enjoy Easy Leveling.

Skyrim has native controller support; Oblivion requires modding. Skyrim is playable vanilla, Oblivion is a punishment without mods.

imo, Oblivion with a small amount of modding is absolutely incredible. Skyrim I'll play but Oblivion is just immaculate.

This, absolutely this. Skyrim was fun for a while with all the more mods it has. Thomas the train engine for dragons, amazing home mods, and Inigo was the most fantastic companion mod in any elder scrolls game. However its nothing compared to the plot, overhaul mods, magic system, and everything in between.

After 20 or so vanilla playthroughs and 50-60 or so modded playthroughs on Skyrim, I cant even stand to play the game anymore. But I still come back to Oblivion at least once a month and find a new way to enjoy it.

[Lost my sanity]

Oblivion with all it's dlc is better than a vanilla Skyrim. With mods though, Skyrim is a completely new game. The better game than these two is Morrowind. It's the most complex game, with any actually intelligents behind it. The down side the combat absolutely awful and spells have the chance to fail whenever you cast them.

[Heimdall313]

Publicado originalmente por Lost my sanity:

Oblivion with all it's dlc is better than a vanilla Skyrim. With mods though, Skyrim is a completely new game. The better game than these two is Morrowind. It's the most complex game, with any actually intelligents behind it. The down side the combat absolutely awful and spells have the chance to fail whenever you cast them.

SPEARS, the combat is always better because they have SPEARS.
Spell fails are fun though, it saves your butt when you force enemies into dice rolls. Morrowind having the option to have variable magnitude spells is also really neat imo, and adding some variable magnitude reduces spell cost and increases success rates with often little loss. I really liked that mechanic.
Morrowind also has the most spiteful locals that constantly refer to me with slurs, which makes me feel more like a tourist in Poland, which is how I expect to be treated. Skyrim you hardly get the occasional insult, and most of these are put in the mouths of outlaws or drunks. Too polite.