Is Oblivion really as bad as FO76?

[Allah]

Some people are saying that Obilivions is only as buggy as FO76. I don't own Oblivion yet. This true?

[Øtaku°]

Originally posted by cyäegha:

what even lol

of course it's equally as buggy as FO76, if not even more so, and it has a worse version of the gamebryo engine from even earlier in the dev cycle, so it's also considerably more unstable

From everything that I have seen 76 is the most unstable game out of FO / ES games. This includes 76 just running like crap over all. As I was alluding to, with time Oblivion is not as bas as it was.

Originally posted by cyäegha:

oblivion is less stable than skyrim by some measure, and skyrim is hardly the pinnacle of stability
hell, you can't even push the engine half as hard as you could with skyrim before something major breaks

None of these games would really be called stable by means of other games,.

As for "pushing the engine"
It seems like you are talking about mods, when modding anything you run a much higher risk for it breaking something in / or many ways. It's no longer vanilla when you add things to it. Be it for what ever reason.

If someone was to take the same PC and boot up 76 then Oblivion, 76 would be the worst one when it comes to it's bugs and over all performance. (Nobody was saying Oblivion wasn't buggy or didn't have it's own issues).

[VOIĐ™]

Originally posted by Otaku°:

Originally posted by cyäegha:

what even lol

of course it's equally as buggy as FO76, if not even more so, and it has a worse version of the gamebryo engine from even earlier in the dev cycle, so it's also considerably more unstable

From everything that I have seen 76 is the most unstable game out of FO / ES games. This includes 76 just running like crap over all. As I was alluding to, with time Oblivion is not as bas as it was.

Originally posted by cyäegha:

oblivion is less stable than skyrim by some measure, and skyrim is hardly the pinnacle of stability
hell, you can't even push the engine half as hard as you could with skyrim before something major breaks

None of these games would really be called stable by means of other games,.

As for "pushing the engine"
It seems like you are talking about mods, when modding anything you run a much higher risk for it breaking something in / or many ways. It's no longer vanilla when you add things to it. Be it for what ever reason.

If someone was to take the same PC and boot up 76 then Oblivion, 76 would be the worst one when it comes to it's bugs and over all performance. (Nobody was saying Oblivion wasn't buggy or didn't have it's own issues).

Even morrowind did it better. I think the wood elvish girls would be drooling over seeing the graphics in how the elvish girls in morrowind were made compared to the crappy graphics that bethesda gave them in 'blivion. They were so badly made that the wood elves that were from that game were almost screaming from the sensation of anticipation when they said they would make a new game with new character models:

"Yes bethesda! Yes! Give it to me! Give me a new character makeover so i don't look like a fat christmas leprechaun in an outstretched form from a torture bench from the mines of Moria!"

And then they would go on seelf- lotahing how badly made they were and get bdsm-ed from dark elves yhat hated there guts from skyrim. Even skyrims developers would have made a better job at making oblivion had they did it from the start of the same date. You don't see as much self loath as the makers of oblivion has put into a game. They even said in interviews how bad they thought the grapgics were and how they were drooling over making a fat new game. And look at the creation! Skimpyness sluttified in mods from skyrim that would make sexless incels drool their mouths off that oblivion players tried and failed miserbaly in imitating.

[Øtaku°]

Originally posted by ֆlemmig:

Originally posted by Otaku°:

From everything that I have seen 76 is the most unstable game out of FO / ES games. This includes 76 just running like crap over all. As I was alluding to, with time Oblivion is not as bas as it was.




None of these games would really be called stable by means of other games,.

As for "pushing the engine"
It seems like you are talking about mods, when modding anything you run a much higher risk for it breaking something in / or many ways. It's no longer vanilla when you add things to it. Be it for what ever reason.

If someone was to take the same PC and boot up 76 then Oblivion, 76 would be the worst one when it comes to it's bugs and over all performance. (Nobody was saying Oblivion wasn't buggy or didn't have it's own issues).

Even morrowind did it better. I think the wood elvish girls would be drooling over seeing the graphics in how the elvish girls in morrowind were made compared to the crappy graphics that bethesda gave them in 'blivion. They were so badly made that the wood elves that were from that game were almost screaming from the sensation of anticipation when they said they would make a new game with new character models:

Yes bethesda! Yes! Give it to me! Give me a new character makeover so i don't look like a fat christmas leprechaun in an outstretched form from a torture bench from the mines of Moria!

And then they would go on seelf- lotahing how badly made they were and get bdsm-ed from dark elves yhat hated there guts from skyrim. Even skyrims developers would have made a better job at making oblivion had they did it from the start of the same date. You don't see as much self loath as the makers of oblivion has put into a game. They even said in interviews how bad they thought the grapgics were and how they were drooling over making a fat new game. And look at the creation! Skimpyness sluttified in mods from skyrim that would make sexless incels drool their mouths off that oblivion players tried and failed miserbaly in imitating.

uhm... wut?

[Bobby Digital™]

bugs and instability happens after one modifies the game heavily or is not proficient with modifying the game.

[Øtaku°]

Originally posted by ֆlemmig:

Originally posted by Otaku°:

uhm... wut?

Offended?

About what?

[cyäegha]

Originally posted by Otaku°:

From everything that I have seen 76 is the most unstable game out of FO / ES games. This includes 76 just running like crap over all. As I was alluding to, with time Oblivion is not as bas as it was.

i've heard of it being buggy, but not inherently any more unstable than any other creation engine / gamebryo game

oblivion, on the other hand, was and still is unstable and very crash prone, even with all of the community-made fixes applied

Originally posted by Otaku°:

As for "pushing the engine"
It seems like you are talking about mods, when modding anything you run a much higher risk for it breaking something in / or many ways.

which is exactly the point
skyrim at least has a solid enough foundation, for a given degree of the term, that you could comfortably run a reasonably modded game off it for some time without it crashing

comparatively, oblivion is so inherently unstable that a heavy load order can and will kill your game in a very short order
oblivion is a game best modded lightly, for that reason

Originally posted by Otaku°:

From everything that I have seen 76 is the most unstable game out of FO / ES games. This includes 76 just running like crap over all. As I was alluding to, with time Oblivion is not as bas as it was.

excuse me if i seem skeptical, but i don't really believe that

FO76 is irredeemable garbage, sure, but at a fundamental level, its engine is considerably more capable and stable than oblivion's
76 is a buggy POS and a terrible performer, but there really isn't much room for comparison when oblivion is widely known to be pretty much the worst TES in terms of performance and stability, by a country mile

though i suppose there is some confusion here when i allude to game-level bugs and engine-level stability being seperate sides of the same coin; for that i apologize

[autumn]

having this much austism its just games dood

[Kristian]

No. Oblivion is not "as bad as FO76". Now, on the topic of "is it as buggy", I can't say because I haven't played FO76. Although from what I've seen, I'd say Fallout 76 is worse. Oblivion's AI was really strange, and the mechanics were all very wonky too, but it all worked in a weird sort of way. The game had charm and a lot more content. Fallout 76 is an effortless mess.

[Plague]

Originally posted by 22 DeathGrip:

Some people are saying that Obilivions is only as buggy as FO76. I don't own Oblivion yet. This true?

oblivions is bathesdas only good game

[{ Filet }]

Originally posted by StartrekAnubus:

Originally posted by 22 DeathGrip:

Some people are saying that Obilivions is only as buggy as FO76. I don't own Oblivion yet. This true?

oblivions is bathesdas only good game

*frowns in daggerfall*

[Bison Bait]

The only bug I have EVER encountered in oblivion was one time i jumped on a chair and got stuck against a wall in Anvil and had to use console keys to get out. that was a 30 second annoyance out of a 167 hour thrilling experience, which TBH is more than i can say for skyrim

[Venom Candle]

Trying to compare Oblivion to FO76 sounds like a really baloney excuse to defend FO76.


Even if Oblivion is technically worse than FO76, that doesn't give FO76 a pass. At all. Oblivion was made in 2006, FO76 was made in 2018. "B-but Oblivion is worse than FO76!" shouldn't even be made. When the defenders are saying crap like that, you know the game is bad.

[jcewazhere]

At launch maybe Oblivion was half as buggy as I've heard 76 is. But over a decade of fixes, ocasionally by Bethesda but mostly by the moding community, have made Oblivion quite stable until you load it down with too many mods.

Steam includes the official patches by default and you can add the unofficial ones from nexus mods if you're worried.

[EnclaveEyebot]

Oblivion runs just fine on modern hardware, I don't know how this thread is even a thing. Even a highly modded Oblivion seems more stable than the new Bethesda release, as unfortunate as that is. Using the unnoficial patch works wonders, thanks community of modders!

I played Oblivion release day on a (soon to be red ring) Xbox and found only minor glitches to my memory.

Fallout New Vegas on the other hand I had to wait to play on the old consoles. Thankfully now that the modding community is heavily involved, even that game is 'mostly' stable, even modded to heck and back.

at least Oblivion supports mods and is singleplayer ha!

[Katie]

Oblivion was quite highly regarded when it came out... it's an old game... but it's mechanics - especially leveling - haven't aged well. Fallout 3 is still my favourite bethesda game of this style. I enjoyed Skyrim a lot too, but Fallout 3 had it all, and it unfortunately makes Oblivion quite bad by comparison.