Oblivion quests compared to skyrim.

[Red Emperor]

I quite enjoyed skyrim , and I think I should try oblivion , but how many dungeon quests does oblivion have compared to skyrim. Because in my opinion all dungeons in skyrim are the same , it's just boring.

[AC Denton]

Dungeon diving in Oblivion sucks unless there's a quest tied to it. That said, the quests themselves in Oblivion are far better than Skyrim.
As for the dungeon design, they're pretty much the same throughout each title for the whole series, most forts in Cyrodiil look the same, most caves in Cyrodiil look the same, most forts in Morrowind look the same, etc.
It's funny, as much as I criticize Skyrim, I think it has more unique dungeon layouts, possibly only beaten by Morrowind' Dwemer ruins. This is all due to how Bethesda created their games in the Creation Engine, the same way modders made world/location mods.

Still, all that said, Oblivion is still a must-play for any RPG/Open-World universe fans, along with Dragon Age Origins, KOTOR is also great.

[Red Emperor]

Thanks for the replies , but are there more or less dungeon quests in total.

[cindersoul45]

I pretty much completed all of the dungeon quests in Oblivion a couple of days ago, and am now going through all of the dungeons. Skyrim definitlely has more, but that's because Skyrim uses the Radiant Quest system.

There are some dungeons that are unique and stand out from the rest, but they are in the minority. Morrowind had more density, but the quality of the dungeons wasn't that great (especially the egg mines, which were completely pointless). Each game had more dungeon designers than the last, and it really shows. It's one of the things that consistently gets better in each Bethesda title.

[gr1nie]

Originally posted by Kai the Khajiit:

The dungeons in Oblivion are all quite similar to each other and don’t often have the “pay off” of a nice chest and loot at the end like Skyrim does.

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Dungeons#Boss_Chests

[Red Emperor]

Thank you for the replies

[Narkenstein3D]

Oblivion has better writing in my opinion than Skyrim. The main quest is pretty good, and as most people would do, the sidequesting is a ton of fun too. Especially the Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild questline if you ask me, based on the difficulty and different routes you can take to accomplish most big missions.

But yes, the problems that are in Skyrim with dungeon delving arguably have roots in Oblivion. But it's still a great game.

[Shedding my mortal skin]

I heard from either a wiki or somewhere on a forum that Oblivion's landscape and dungeons had their layouts procedurally-generated before being added, which would explain why they all seem familiar. Skyrim dungeons are varied and have bountiful loot (WAY too much if you ask me) while Oblivion's dungeons are very similar, can be larger and have more rewarding loot, meaning you can't quite rack up forty thousand gold that easily. Unless there's a quest tied to it, I usually walk by dungeons until I need to level my skills or I need gold.

[Ankou]

Unequivocally, Oblivion has the worst dungeons of the three newer TES games. They are massive beyond what is remotely logical and consist mostly of unadorned rooms connected with barren hallways.

Imagine a Skyrim dungeon after someone went through and removed everything but the walls, traps, chests, and enemies. Once you have visited 1-3 ruins, forts, or caves you have likely seen everything that type of location has to offer. There are no surprises or cool locations to find.
No set dressing to make a place feel like those bandits or vampires belong there, they are just standing in empty hallways waiting to die. No hidden quests, no reason to explore them unless a quest demands it or you feel like boring yourself to sleep.

There are no mods that fix this but Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul at least livens up the enemies, loot, and adds quests. I highly recommend it, I couldn't have replayed Oblivion without it. Better Dungeons adds some visual interest to make a place feel occupied and does okay but it is let down by just how damn boring the original dungeons are, it can only do so much.



Fair warning: The world has a similar problem as it was made mostly with RNG and then surface ruins and roads placed on top. It is not like Skyrim with places to explore or things to see bove ground. Most of the cities are also very uninspired, half feel like palate swaps. The very few villages/towns are the same uninspired cluster of buildings.

The good news is Unique Landscapes fixes the wilderness completely and brings it up to par with the better TES games. YMMV on Better Cities, but I like it aside from The Imperial City. The rest are outstanding, visually interesting, and diverse.



The actual quest lines and fluff are better than Skyrim but I would argue it sends you into dungeons just as much. There are more quests where it does not, absolutely, but since there are more quests in general (ignoring the infinite and pointless radiant quests in Skyrim) you will still be spending a fair amount of time underground. Your reason for being there may be more interesting but the dungeons they send you to are far worse so...

[Red Emperor]

Thank you for the long reply , and it I find it weird what you said about cities , some people said that skyrim cities are boring and small compared to oblivions .

[Red Emperor]

And how do you have so many hours in Skyrim , I played it for 241h and I feel like I seen everything , I even have more achievements than you somehow.

[cindersoul45]

Originally posted by Emperor:

Thank you for the long reply , and it I find it weird what you said about cities , some people said that skyrim cities are boring and small compared to oblivions .

It's all subjective. But the cities of Skyrim are smaller and there are fewer of them than in Oblivion. Each city in Oblivion has its own unique layout, design, and art direction, so they're hardly "uninspired" or "palate swaps".

The wilderness was procedurally generated, but that doesn't mean it looks bad or there are no interesting places to explore. Areas still feel different. The Colovian Highlands look very different from Blackwood, and the Gold Coast looks different from the Great Forest. So the game world was still made with thought put into it, but there aren't as many interesting, random locations to explore in the world as there were in Skyrim.

The dungeons also had some design put into them, and there are some random good ones you can find in the middle of nowhere, but it gets tedious, and I think they focused too much on quantity here, without taking into account variety. Skyrim had more dungeon designers as well, and it really shows. Too many quests in the game send you into dungeons, but to be honest, I'd rather have Oblivion's dungeon quests than Morrowind's escort quests.

There's nothing wrong with installing Unique Landscapes or Better Cities (it might be a tough install for a new user), but I'd recommend holding off from bigger mods like that on your first playthrough, so you can see the game with your own eyes and make your own judgments on how you feel about these things and what you think needs improvement. Another reason is that, if you run into issues, it's much easier to troubleshoot in the vanilla game than it is with big mods like that.

[Ankou]

One thing about each TES game; there are a lot of nostalgia-blind fans and each game has it's strengths and weaknesses. Subjectively we all want something a bit different.

Really you have to form your own opinion. That is mine: most of the cities have the same "mostly paved meadow in walls dotted with palate swapped anachronistic vaguely European houses" theme. Nothing to make 4-5 of 7 distinct from each other in any meaningful way, just re-skinned houses.
The cities may be bigger but like everything in Oblivion they are bland.
But Better Cities is fantastic. (Open Cities is a vague improvement too, just at mid to high levels a bear or something will eventually get in and murder half the NPCs in my experience. Especially if you use Oscuro's.)


For my Skyrim (and Oblivion) playtime:
1. I tend to leave games running in the background. My actual play time is probably 1/2 or even 1/3 what Steam recorded.
2. Mods. Lots of mods. No way I could have played Skyrim for over even 150 hours without heavily modding it. (Same for Oblivion but the engine isn't nearly as sturdy so you have to be careful.)
3. I tend to role play, and will play a character instead of a game. Meaning I won't just go through and do everything with one character or play efficiently. Plus I get severely bored when the game becomes too easy and tend to restart trying different challenge-adding mods without ever finishing.

[White Rabbit Alice]

Skyrim has an unlimited Perk System,Oblivion has a 99 cap level, You also have to worry about you gear when its time to repair.
Skyrim also hits hard on respawning cells. its 3 (just right,Oblivion) days for a dungeon to clear,maybe ground level as well. this scratches the nerve for dungeon crawling.
and by the end at post skyrim, nearly,sit takes a while,everyone will be the same due to the perk limits removed
Skyrim also put up pretty lazy radiant quests instead of end game content.
Skyrim is also good at making you feel like youve done nothing as your actions bear usually no consqucuences. the only quest i remember that majory changed anything was the civil war line\

(btw yes i know the bug to keep levelling)

[markbatmanlucchese]

I am replaying the Oblivion remaster. Some of the most mentioned quests are “a brush with death”, the quest where you go into a dreamland, and the one on the ship in the waterfront. I just replayed “a brush with death.” All it boiled down to was walking into the painted world, killing 4 trolls, and then looting a corpse and walking out. I love Oblivion but I’m sorry it has the most overrated side quests.

[4K_240hz_MLED]

Originally posted by markbatmanlucchese:

I am replaying the Oblivion remaster. Some of the most mentioned quests are “a brush with death”, the quest where you go into a dreamland, and the one on the ship in the waterfront. I just replayed “a brush with death.” All it boiled down to was walking into the painted world, killing 4 trolls, and then looting a corpse and walking out. I love Oblivion but I’m sorry it has the most overrated side quests.

Bethesda quests come down to fetch, kill, and/or stealth tbh