Corrupted autosave....

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I play only with autosaves, and my autosave got corrupted, so i went into save folder, deleted it and renamed the backup file with .ess expansion. Then i tried to play and my backup also was corrupted...wtf is this crap, im tired of it happening all the time on original steam game.

Apologies for swearing..

[psychotron666]

Never, ever rely on auto saves for any game made in Bethesda engine, including morrowind, oblivion, skyrim, fallout 3, new Vegas or fallout 4.

They all have the same problems, where auto saves will inevitably corrupt. Some games the auto saves even bloat the save file, giving you longer load times and worse performance.

It's recommended at the very least to never rely on auto saves (always hard save), and many people even disable auto saves and always save onto a new save file.

[every1hasnames]

Yeah never rely on auto save. As psychotron666 stated autosave is known to get corrupted.

MY advice is never rely on just 1 type of save. What i do is utilize 2 different hard save slots a quicksave slot and an autosave slot.


Meaning when i save i hard save in two different slots each time. quick save and ofcourse autosaves does its own thing.

This gives me options incase autosave gets corrupt.

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I know but i don't like hard saves, specially when i played game so many times that i like to do hard challenges like no hard save challenge.It might sound stupid or silly but i just don't like hard saves without any logical reason. I got corrupted autosaves before but i was able to easily fix them buy using backup saves. This time my backup was corrupted too and i got some message like my save is version 0.12 (maybe it was different nuber) and game is different version (something like that). Never have i ever seen that kind of message and i played oblivion for more than 10 years. If any of you got message similar to this one and got solution on how to fix it, let me know.
Thanks.

[every1hasnames]

I never got that message but i do know a solution. hard save lol

You save how you want its your game your playthrough. But as it sounds like your unwillingness to hard save is causing you to deal with unnecessary effort, time and frustration when your autosaves get corrupted.

Sounds like a logical reason to hard save to me.

[ralphtobybob]

I'm at level 42 and use autosave, quick saves and slot saves. I have had a corrupt quick save after entering a location, but autosave was good. I didn't get the corrupt file message, the file just wouldn't start loading.

In a previous attempt to play through I ended up with a corrupted game save. I had auto save off didn't quicksave and did only slot saves.

The only thing I've done differently this time is quitting to the main menu first then exiting. Not using quick save limits your ability to try different outcomes and u end up with a clutter of slot saves.
Before i started to always exist to menu, the game would sometimes lockup when exiting to the desktop instead of the main menu and I would have to use Task Manager to get back to the desktop. Sometimes a reboot or sign out was necessary.

But just to be sure, I do a slot save after a level up or major quest or after messing around with inventory for a couple of hours or after finally getting around to making potions.

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Ok

[Dingbat]

Yeah, there isn't anything much more annoying than a corrupt save file. I've certainly had my share, but my issues all seemed to fade away after turning off cloud saves. I'm used to backing up my own files manually, anyway. I understand you wanting to make things really hardcore, but you're just setting yourself up for misery with the single autosave. There is no substitute for having some kind of backup save, even if you only keep a couple slot saves from time to time.
I really hope things work out for you.

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Well, the only thing i could do is start all over again, thanks anyways :)

[ralphtobybob]

Originally posted by Dingbat:

Yeah, there isn't anything much more annoying than a corrupt save file. I've certainly had my share, but my issues all seemed to fade away after turning off cloud saves. I'm used to backing up my own files manually, anyway. I understand you wanting to make things really hardcore, but you're just setting yourself up for misery with the single autosave. There is no substitute for having some kind of backup save, even if you only keep a couple slot saves from time to time.
I really hope things work out for you.

I've gotten the corrupt file save problem with the non-Steam DVD version, before. Cloud saves such as by Steam will overwrite your last saves, so if those weren't corrupt they've gone bye bye.
There may be a way to turn off cloud saves, but I"ve never looked. I'm just trying to do a play through with all of the DLC, not live in the game. Oblivion is the only game I've had with this type of problem.

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If the problem where my backup gets corrupted occurs again, i guess ill check it out. Thanks.

[Dingbat]

Originally posted by ralphtobybob:

Originally posted by Dingbat:

Yeah, there isn't anything much more annoying than a corrupt save file. I've certainly had my share, but my issues all seemed to fade away after turning off cloud saves. I'm used to backing up my own files manually, anyway. I understand you wanting to make things really hardcore, but you're just setting yourself up for misery with the single autosave. There is no substitute for having some kind of backup save, even if you only keep a couple slot saves from time to time.
I really hope things work out for you.

I've gotten the corrupt file save problem with the non-Steam DVD version, before. Cloud saves such as by Steam will overwrite your last saves, so if those weren't corrupt they've gone bye bye.
There may be a way to turn off cloud saves, but I"ve never looked. I'm just trying to do a play through with all of the DLC, not live in the game. Oblivion is the only game I've had with this type of problem.

Yes, cloud saves can be turned off globally at :
Steam > Settings > Cloud > Enable Stem Cloud ...

As it happens, I have the non-Steam dvd version also, and while I did have similar issues with that, I never had quite so many as I do with the Steam version. I think it's interesting how it plays out differently among other people. I still get the occasional ctd, but again, personally I've never had another corrupt save with the Steam version since disabling it. Go figure. Oh... I need to knock on wood now, don't I?

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Thanks ill check it out :)

[Bomb Bloke]

Just to be clear, Steam's Cloud service is for syncing, not backups. If your saves are corrupt, then it's job is simply to make sure they're corrupt on every system you play on. It won't cause corruption itself, though many people become confused and think "the game has crashed to sync my saves" - it's the other way around, the sync is triggered by the game exiting.

Autosaves also don't cause corruption, as such, but if you're too close to the RAM limit then they'll tend to tip you over and crash the game (which will usually render the save in concern unloadable, if writing was interrupted). Autosaves are essential for Bethesda games, so if they're crashing on you, it's better to figure out and resolve the cause than to turn them off.

Quicksaves are also ok, but quick loading is to be avoided. And at the end of the day, you should be maintaining a collection of hard saves so that you never discard an important one "by accident".

[Varenvel The Festive Dinosaur]

Originally posted by tsar:

I know but i don't like hard saves, specially when i played game so many times that i like to do hard challenges like no hard save challenge.It might sound stupid or silly but i just don't like hard saves without any logical reason. I got corrupted autosaves before but i was able to easily fix them buy using backup saves. This time my backup was corrupted too and i got some message like my save is version 0.12 (maybe it was different nuber) and game is different version (something like that). Never have i ever seen that kind of message and i played oblivion for more than 10 years. If any of you got message similar to this one and got solution on how to fix it, let me know.
Thanks.

you going to have bad time in many games

save coruption is present in some shape or form in many games

on games where there is only autosaves it hits you hard but here you have choice

so ether start using hard saves(you dont need a lot , you can have like 5 or 10) or you risk it happening again

it happened to me once or twice in morrowind , skyrim , oblivion , and many other games

only time i actualy "lost" something other then "few mins or hour" was borderlands 1 where it ate my entire lv28 character but no manual saves so nothing i could do

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I get it, i need hard saves but i hate them so much that i'd rather stop playing the game forever than do a hard save :D I know it sounds stupid or weird but thats the case. I appreciate the help tho but seems like the only solution is to actually do the hard save. Guess i'm gonna either stop playing the game or hope that it wont happen again soon. I got no problem when my autosave gets corrupted because i always have backup autosave and its so very rare that backup gets corrupted too. I believe its not gonna happen soon just because its so rare.