How do i get to the Draconian Madstone?

[SodaMazing]

I'm at Pale Pass (aka across the border of Skyrim), and i'm trying to find the Draconian Madstone, there is no quest marker, and the map is completely empty, i am lost in the fog of nothingness, i tried to look up a tutorial, but there is none, it's like i am the first and only person to do this quest.
How can i get to the Draconian Madstone, i'm starting off at the entrance to Pale Pass to make it easier.

[Cynder]

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Lifting_the_Vale here is a walkthrough for the quest. Literally the entire Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages is more reliable than the official guides

[SodaMazing]

Originally posted by Samus Aran:

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Lifting_the_Vale here is a walkthrough for the quest. Literally the entire Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages is more reliable than the official guides

I tried that, but it really doesn't tell me exactly where to go.

[cyäegha]

it does, though

you find dragonclaw rock (which has a map marker, so you literally can't miss it), then go west until you find a giant statue, then go north until you find the door to serpent's trail

[SodaMazing]

Originally posted by cyäegha:

it does, though

you find dragonclaw rock (which has a map marker, so you literally can't miss it), then go west until you find a giant statue, then go north until you find the door to serpent's trail

Read my post again, i am already at Pale Pass, but i cannot find the Madstone anywhere in the area, it's too foggy to find anything in there.

[cyäegha]

ah, my mistake

you have to kill the akaviri commander to be able to retrieve the stone he's guarding (it's in his room)

[SodaMazing]

Originally posted by cyäegha:

ah, my mistake

you have to kill the akaviri commander to be able to retrieve the stone he's guarding (it's in his room)

And where would this commander be?

[cyäegha]

Originally posted by Soda:

And where would this commander be?

in the room, that the UESP told you to go to, that you apparently skimmed over

i'm not going to hold your hand, go find it

[Teralitha]

You are supposed to use your brains for this quest. All the clues on where to find it are provided by the game. Did you read the diary?

[SodaMazing]

Originally posted by Teralitha:

You are supposed to use your brains for this quest. All the clues on where to find it are provided by the game. Did you read the diary?

Yes, but i am but a simple man.

[Teralitha]

Well you said you found pale pass right? Explore the pass. The countess gave you a key for a door. Look for a door.

[SodaMazing]

Originally posted by Teralitha:

Well you said you found pale pass right? Explore the pass. The countess gave you a key for a door. Look for a door.

The pass is the size of 2 football fields, and no matter how high my settings are, the fog is so dense, navigating around to find the Madstone somewhere is extremely difficult at this rate.

[Teralitha]

Cmon man you cant be this stupid

[BondageSpider]

It's a bit of a maze. You just need to be patient and follow the walls until you get there.

Basically this mission has four phases:

1. Finding your way in. Go to Dragonclaw Rock, get quest update, hike west to the statue, then hike north and there's the entrance. (It's covered in snow if you don't have this quest yet.)

2. A small cave environment with a lot of narrow passages and probably some Ogres and wildlife. Bring a light source. Beware of bears and mountain lions. One or two traps but nothing major. Be sure to pick up the tablet the courier's skeleton is holding (it's hard to miss) you'll need it later.

3. Caves exit into an outdoor area rimmed by impassable mountain ridges, a long winding flagstone path (partly overgrown) weaves through an area chock full of Ogres. Arrows with hombrewed Damage Health are generally the most efficient thing to use on Ogres, but do it any way that works. You don't have to kill them all. Eventually leads to a ruined fortress entrance.

4. The fort has several sections that link to each other through multiple doors, use the map and try to keep your bearings. Lots of skeletons with shields and katanas await you. You don't need to kill them all. You will need to lower some bridges via switches to reach the final room. Lots of dartgun traps in some areas and a few deadfalls, so watch your step and check the pillars for dart holes. Eventually you will meet the spectral commander of the fort. If you remembered to grab the orders in the cave you can just hand them to him and the final door opens, revealing the Madstone sitting on an altar near three treasure chests, and a door leading back to the fort.

Once you have the Madstone you can find the fort entrance where you came in, retrace the outdoor path to the cave, and retreat through the cave back to the mountains near Bruma.

Turn the Madstone in the Countess, get the Ring of the Vipereye as reward, and you're done.

[Teralitha]

You need to add spoiler alert to your post

[SodaMazing]

Originally posted by XenoZooValentine:

It's a bit of a maze. You just need to be patient and follow the walls until you get there.

Basically this mission has four phases:

1. Finding your way in. Go to Dragonclaw Rock, get quest update, hike west to the statue, then hike north and there's the entrance. (It's covered in snow if you don't have this quest yet.)

2. A small cave environment with a lot of narrow passages and probably some Ogres and wildlife. Bring a light source. Beware of bears and mountain lions. One or two traps but nothing major. Be sure to pick up the tablet the courier's skeleton is holding (it's hard to miss) you'll need it later.

3. Caves exit into an outdoor area rimmed by impassable mountain ridges, a long winding flagstone path (partly overgrown) weaves through an area chock full of Ogres. Arrows with hombrewed Damage Health are generally the most efficient thing to use on Ogres, but do it any way that works. You don't have to kill them all. Eventually leads to a ruined fortress entrance.

4. The fort has several sections that link to each other through multiple doors, use the map and try to keep your bearings. Lots of skeletons with shields and katanas await you. You don't need to kill them all. You will need to lower some bridges via switches to reach the final room. Lots of dartgun traps in some areas and a few deadfalls, so watch your step and check the pillars for dart holes. Eventually you will meet the spectral commander of the fort. If you remembered to grab the orders in the cave you can just hand them to him and the final door opens, revealing the Madstone sitting on an altar near three treasure chests, and a door leading back to the fort.

Once you have the Madstone you can find the fort entrance where you came in, retrace the outdoor path to the cave, and retreat through the cave back to the mountains near Bruma.

Turn the Madstone in the Countess, get the Ring of the Vipereye as reward, and you're done.

Ok this should work, i'll try it out, thanks.