Crashes on New Game

[itsdorkney]

i literally just bought the GOTY edition. it was working before i added mods. i followed all the tutorials and am using wrye bash to instal and BOSS to order them. (i use LOOT with skyrim but everyone said its wonky for oblivion).

the game loads up fine, i click new, and it gets all the way to the end and then i get the "Oblivion has stopped working" message. i could load my other save with no problem all my mods were working, until i tried to go back into racemenu, then it crashed. so it must be the character creation overhaul but i have no idea what, i've already deleted a bunch of smaller mods in hopes to resolve it but no dice.

this is my load order:

OBSE
Better Cities Helper.dll
Blockhead.dll
OblivionReloaded.dll
obse_jail_fix.dll
obse_training_fix.dll
sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dll

Oblivion.esm
All Natural Base.esm
Harvest[Containers].esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
Better Cities .esp
All Natural.esp
All Natural - SI.esp
Immersive Interiors.esp
All Natural - Real Lights.esp
Populated Prisons.esp
OblivionReloaded.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
RTFemaleReplacerV12.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
Harvest[Containers].esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
Shadowcrest_Vineyard.esp
Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp
Basic Primary Needs.esp
Enhanced Grabbing.esp
Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
All Natural Real Lights - Better Cities IC Patch.esp
Better Cities Chorrol - Immersive Interiors.esp
Better Cities - Alternative Start Arrive by Ship.esp
Better Cities - Leyawiin Flooded.esp
All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp


i'm totally new to oblivion and modding for it, but im also completely stumped. i don't even have that many mods but idk whats conflicting or causing it to crash. wrye bash and boss (even loot) say everything is fine so i'm confused. i tried deleting the folder in /MyGames, reinstalling all the mods, verifying the files, nothing.

[Leeux]

I remember having the same trouble as you a couple of years ago... but sadly, even if I tried to remember what it was, I couldn't recall it :(

What I would suggest, and what I did at that time to find the culprit... and the only option you normally have when there's no other hint/info/etc about what could be causing an issue... is: disable a few mods at a time and re-try creating a new game... each time you do that, remember to rebuild your bashed patch (as I see you have one), that's critical for this to work.

Also, crashing on new game could be caused by any number of issues... most commonly, missing meshes/assets for loaded mods, badly installed UI mods (a bad modded XML file can cause the game to crash when it tried to show that menu) so, try to see if you have all the files required for the mods you loaded (specifically, Better Cities has a big asset file that's required for the mod.)

Have you fiddled with the Stutter Remover settings at all? For some combinations of them, it's possible for the game to crash more frequently.. specially for some setting of the heap replacer.


Another thing that could help is, trying to rename the Oblivion.ini file (the one located in your Documents\My Games\Oblivion) and let the game generate a new one. Probably best bet is to let the launcher create it (it will detect your settings again) and then close the launcher and launch the game again with the OBSE loader.

No much more than what I said already.... just one minor thing: the Alternative Start mod is a bit old and I remember it having some issues in the past... don't really remember what they were and I don't know if it was fixed/updated afterwards, but nevertheless, I'd suggest replacing it with Arthmoor's Alternative Beginnings[1], it has similar options and some more and is much more modern and issue proof.

EDIT: I didn't clarify it, be careful that when you disable mods, you also disable any other mods that could be dependent upon the one you're disabling.

[1] nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/37382/?