Eyja Death Mystery

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I entered the basement of Rosethorn Hall and Eyja is lying dead on the floor. This has never happened before and I'm sure it wasn't me that bumped her off so I'm wondering how this has happened. I went back to a save from a few days ago and she's alive and well so it's something that has happened recently but there is no-one else in the house apart from a Spectacled Bear who lives in the basement and he never moves.

I've used the resurrect console command on her because I had just completed a few quests and didn't want to lose all that progress but has this ever happened to anyone and am I ok using the resurrect spell as a one off? I would really like to know how she died because in 10 years of playing the game this is a first. I like the idea of a mod that introduces NPCs who will sneak in your houses and steal or attack but I don't have anything like that installed and I've never seen another NPC enter the house.

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guards might have got her,did you ask the Adoring fan were he was at the time ?

no it's never happened to me

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:D The adoring fan has been stationed in the basement of the Skingrad Fighters guild for a very very long time and is easily forgotten there. Bliss!

Guards have entered the house before when trying to arrest me and I go in there but I can't see how they could go in there when I'm not there. I have had a bounty of 40 for a while though which I only cleared today so maybe when there is a bounty on you guards will visit your known residents with murderous intent even if you're not there - Gladiator style.

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you've seen what happens to City Swimmer....they'll chase her into her home to cut her down,though Eyja never leaves,does she ?

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Originally posted by Evil Doctor Porkchop:

you've seen what happens to City Swimmer....they'll chase her into her home to cut her down,though Eyja never leaves,does she ?

You're right as Eyja never leaves and is either in the basement or the ground or first floors. Unless she was leading a double life behind my back and would venture out in my absence or have people visiting. I had to check out the UESP page as a reminder and this is interesting about City Swimmer in the notes section:

"Due to her low responsibility, it is not uncommon for her to be pursued by the guards and killed for pickpocketing".

I've seen other NPCs being attacked for no reason by guards so it must be due to a low responsibility on the target and in that scenario I can see the guards entering a building in pursuit. Whenever I visit Bravil from the north gate there can sometimes be a fight between a vagrant and guards in progress which results in the NPC being killed but I've seen the same fight resulting in death a few times now so that NPC must respawn. I wonder if I can increase his responsibility I can break the cycle.

[Chaos Epoch]

If you have guards enter your house chasing after you. They'll kill anyone who sticks up for you. One of the main reasons why you never want to start a fight in the Imperial market as they can get themselves killed quite easily.

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Originally posted by Chaos Epoch:

If you have guards enter your house chasing after you. They'll kill anyone who sticks up for you. One of the main reasons why you never want to start a fight in the Imperial market as they can get themselves killed quite easily.

Definitely and I never give guards trouble but if I do accidentially start a fight with them I'll reload rather than having to take them on. I also don't like to kill anything that isn't trying to kill me first but sometimes before I reload a game I'll attack a guard in the market district just for a laugh because they appear from everywhere and it's also a good way to test how my armour holds up while I've got 10 guards slashing at me.

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Originally posted by Hieronymus Dro:

I feed on Eyja. Tasty. Might have gone overboard last time, my bad.

I've done a lot in Oblivion but I've never become a vampire. I did once start to transition when I slept while infected but I reloaded. It would be something new to try though and I bet Eyja is delicious. I've got the Vile Lair DLC but don't visit there often.

Is it true that as a vampire you can't go out during daylight and if you become a vampire and then go through the process of ridding yourself of vampirism you can never become a vampire again?

[Chaos Epoch]

Originally posted by arottweiler:

Originally posted by Chaos Epoch:

If you have guards enter your house chasing after you. They'll kill anyone who sticks up for you. One of the main reasons why you never want to start a fight in the Imperial market as they can get themselves killed quite easily.

Definitely and I never give guards trouble but if I do accidentially start a fight with them I'll reload rather than having to take them on. I also don't like to kill anything that isn't trying to kill me first but sometimes before I reload a game I'll attack a guard in the market district just for a laugh because they appear from everywhere and it's also a good way to test how my armour holds up while I've got 10 guards slashing at me.

In higher levels, If you start a fight in the palace district it's an easy way to level up armor skills by just letting guard mobs attack you. Shouldn't be anyone intresting there to get attacked either.

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Cheers for the info Dr. Dro and plug in modifications when playing as a vampire. Very useful and I'm going to try it out with my next character. Looking your screenshots it's surprising how similar our characters are and they could be twins :D It looks like those images have been uploaded to Steam so is that something I can do and use the URL to post the images here?

Is it possible to play as a vampire but a nice one and not incur any infamy points? Or can I reset imfamy to zero by doing the wayshrines quest as a vampire?

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I have Steam games installed and a Steam folder on my hard drive but I didn't download Oblivion from Steam do does that mean I can't upload screenshots of Oblivion? I read that there are ways around it if you have other Steam games but I'm not sure if that would be against the rules.

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Originally posted by Dr. Dro:

You can and it isn't against the rules, but it won't show up on that game's community hub, just on your miscellaneous screenshots. Can still post the link and will work just fine.

Cheers for confirming :) I'll try to get it configured

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Originally posted by Dr. Dro:

Just select the game on "Add a Non-Steam Game" and it'll show up in your library as a shortcut, cheers

It sounded complicated but I read that and it was very easy to add the OBSE launcher to Steam and then take screenshots so thanks :) The FPS counter is also very useful so I'm keeping that on.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1124187677

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1124185143

I'm not used to playing games with Steam running but it has a lot of advantages so are there any downsides to having Steam running while playing a Steam game? Can it impact performance or decide to start installing updates ingame and turn the FPS in to single figures?

[Chaos Epoch]

Originally posted by arottweiler:

Originally posted by Dr. Dro:

Just select the game on "Add a Non-Steam Game" and it'll show up in your library as a shortcut, cheers

It sounded complicated but I read that and it was very easy to add the OBSE launcher to Steam and then take screenshots so thanks :) The FPS counter is also very useful so I'm keeping that on.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1124187677

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1124185143

I'm not used to playing games with Steam running but it has a lot of advantages so are there any downsides to having Steam running while playing a Steam game? Can it impact performance or decide to start installing updates ingame and turn the FPS in to single figures?

Oblivion is added to your libary but it isn't connected to the servers in the same way. All you're doing is adding the overlay. No updates will install for this game. Meaning you'd have to add stuff manually. You can set this to allow downloads for other steam games or not in the settings though. Either global settings or game settings. Both work though game settings works over global.

Fps displays the actual FPS. So if it's saying 60. It's 60 fps. Not 6 with a 0.