Modding headache. Please send help.

[Unclean Nurgle]

So I've been sitting here for about two days without sleep desperately trying to install a series of mods. At first it was for nostalgia, but now I'm simply hell bent of having this work.

So I'll list off my mods, then the load order.

I've got NMM and OBMM, I use OBMM for everything.
OBSE (21)
DarNified UI 132
Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul 4_8_1
Oblivion Reloaded (Needed for Maskar's Overhaul, or so I was told.)

(So at this point, I can launch oblivion and start a new game fine, I never actually played through because I wanted the last mod in the list, notably, when exiting the game it'd crash instead.)

Oblivion Character Overhaul v2 and the blockhead plugin.

So when I try and install the character overhaul I was unable to start a new game without crashing after the loading screen finished, I then noticed that Maskar's overhaul had a body mod called HGEC, so I DLed and installed the patch it needed for compatability.

Still got the crash, so I've then resorted to trying many different things including shuffling the load order through BOSS and what not, in the end I got extremely angry and disabled the character overhaul. Too bad, because even after disabling it, I still get the CTD upon starting a new game.

So here's the load order I have right now.

Oblivion.esm
DLCShiveringisles.esp
Knights.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
OblivionReloaded.esp
Maska's Oblivion Overhaul.esp
Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp

I've heard there might be an issue with OBSE running, I've gone over anything I could, steam overlay is enabled and functions in Oblivion, I cannot run OBSE's launcher because for some reason the creators thought it'd be a good idea to restrict access to steam users since they didn't have to, despite it not being wrong/bad to run the OBSE launcher.

Help is appreciated.

[CullinB]

Makar's Oblivion Overhaul do not need any Function of Oblivion Reloaded

[Unclean Nurgle]

I just checked my OBSE log and it does indeed display the plugins loading, so I'm guessing OBSE is fine.

I honestly cannot fathom how any of these can conflict.

[Unclean Nurgle]

It doesn't? So maybe there's a conflict between Oblivion Reloaded and Oblivion Character Overhaul? BOSS says there's no issues whatosever.

Update-

So I disabled Oblivion Reloaded.esp but I still get the crash.

[Unclean Nurgle]

Also, forgive me if I seem finnicky, I've been spending hours working on this and I'm very anxious.

[Heruvim]

Have both Oblivion Relaoded and Character Overhaul v.2. Works fine. Never used Makar's Oblivion Overhaul since I prefer OOO. Probably your issue is hidden here somewhere.

[CullinB]

And MOO does not need HGEC

[PainkilleR]

1. Uninstall game from steam and delete Oblivion folder from steamapps/common.
2. Download clean copy of Oblivion.
3. Download Unofficial Patch, Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch, Unofficial DLC Patch, and extract them into oblivion in same order.
4. Download OBSE and extract.
5. Download Oblivion Stutter Remover (will prevent crashing when exiting the game also), leave everything at default settings, but set preferable max fps in the ini file from OSR.
6. Download and install Maska's Oblivion Overhaul.
7. Download Character Overhaul and blockhead and install them.
8. Activate all plugins and re-order them.
9. Launch oblivion mod manager, press utilities and open Archive Invalidation tool.
10. Leave radio button at BSA Redirection and press Reset BSA timestamps.
11. Tick Pack face textures into redirection target BSA and press Update now.

Everything should work this way. Maybe clean install is not necessary but if you did everything in that order and it doesn't work, you should still consider doing a clean install.

[Kongha]

if you have the game set as windowed mode in the oblivion launcher change it to fullscreen.
when I combine oblivonreloaded and window mode its a crash like yours.

[fgh]

man you should actually work with wyre bash. NMM isnt improved and made for oblivion, so must mods probably wont work correctly at all.

[Kongha]

Originally posted by fgh:

man you should actually work with wyre bash. NMM isnt improved and made for oblivion, so must mods probably wont work correctly at all.

nah, thats not fully true.
Ive used NMM with around 230 esp without any problem (had a good +100 hour run). Ofc I used bashed patch but NMM works well with oblivion. its a hassel because as you said, nmm isnt made with oblivion in mind.

[Unclean Nurgle]

Yea I originally only used NMM because in the character overhaul "strongly suggested it" in it's readme. But since then I just turned it into a OMOD and installed it that way. I'll first try the steps without a reinstall, then with a reinstall if it doesn't work.

[Unclean Nurgle]

Alright so here's the new issue, I followed PainkillR's guide, I install OBSE first since it's needed for the patches, after that I DL all of the unofficial patches and extract them manually to my oblivion data folder, even the shivering isles patch with a .bsa, then I grab the stutter fixer.

So now I go into OBMM and click create, then add archive in the new menu, I click the Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.7z then wait for it to load in, click create omod, the compression is set to high, then I wait about 30m, it finishes, and I double click it back in the original menu, now I check all the features I want including HGEC body replacer, which apparently is included in Maskar's Overhaul, or so it says, and then finish it.

I repeat that process to turn the character overhaul into an omod since the readme says it should be loaded into NMM and I don't want to use NMM, and it also says not to do a manual extraction install, so I turn it into an omod and it then tells me it conflicts with another omod, and the only other omod I have is Maskar's overhaul so it must be HGEC, I grab the HGEC patch and blockhead, install them both via extraction.

I tick all of the mods in OBMM, then run BOSS to force them into a load order, BOSS lies and tells me nothing is conflicting at all, and that the process was completed, I ran BOSS twice more and twice more it's wrong and says everything is fine.

So the install process is complete, now I go into utilities and run archive invalidation, leaving BSA redirection checked, and click reset timestamps, I get no notification or visual cue that anything happened so I move on and tick pack face textures, then run the invalidator, it says done a moment later, and I close OBMM.

I go into steam, steam overlay is enabled, and I run Oblivion, razor disabled most if not all background applications, and Oblivion runs, I click play, get a loud audio glich where the music repeats, then Oblivion starts, I hit space to skip the Bethesda logo, and during the initial loading screen I crash.

Before I only crashed when starting a new game so it seems now that I'm worse off than I was before.

[Unclean Nurgle]

After this I decided to let the Bethesda logo run (As if it'd magically fix everything), and before I can even get into the loading screen it crashes.

[Unclean Nurgle]

Well since that didn't work I deleted all the associated files, and reinstalled the game, and now it crashes without any mods what so ever.

[Kongha]

Originally posted by Unclean Nurgle:

Well since that didn't work I deleted all the associated files, and reinstalled the game, and now it crashes without any mods what so ever.

maybe delete the ini.files found in /user/mygames/oblivion