Oblivion - Help with mage.

[x8reaps]

Hi i just wanted to ask a question about mage, i read that for the most powerful mage is best to enchant all your gear with fortifiy magicka sigil stones but i wanna keep wearing a robe so the most pieces i can think of.
1. Hood +50
2. Robe +50
3. Amulet +50
4. 2 Rings + 100
5. Boots +50
6. Wrist Irons +50 - For 100% spell effectiveness.
At most leading up to 350+ Magicka, if i can get any better with robes correct me, which kinda sucks cus i dont wanna look lame lol.

I also wanted to ask what the best way to manage spells are? Do i make cheap spam spells that cost like 25 magicka, or large ones that cost 100? I just find it abit annoying to constantly have to cast weakness on them then attack, i tried putting weakness effect in the same spell but it dosnt work.

[Omgwtfbbqkitten]

Use this mod to help with magicka. All you have to do is decide how much magicka you want the mod to boost your magicka. I used the balanced one, but you there is also a nerfed version for a minimal boost.

Magic Skill Perks: http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/43268/?

[x8reaps]

Thanks but i dont really wanna modify the values i prefer just the legit way, but i wanna know the most effective legit way to do what ive said above.

[CullinB]

Originally posted by X8ReaperZ:

Hi i just wanted to ask a question about mage, i read that for the most powerful mage is best to enchant all your gear with fortifiy magicka sigil stones but i wanna keep wearing a robe so the most pieces i can think of.
1. Hood +50
2. Robe +50
3. Amulet +50
4. 2 Rings + 100
5. Boots +50
6. Wrist Irons +50 - For 100% spell effectiveness.
At most leading up to 350+ Magicka, if i can get any better with robes correct me, which kinda sucks cus i dont wanna look lame lol.

I also wanted to ask what the best way to manage spells are? Do i make cheap spam spells that cost like 25 magicka, or large ones that cost 100? I just find it abit annoying to constantly have to cast weakness on them then attack, i tried putting weakness effect in the same spell but it dosnt work.

In spellmaking
Weakness to Magic should place after Damage Spell.

I create simple Killing Spell for my new mage
Target Spell
1)Calm 25 x 2sec
2)Drain Health 100x1sec
3)Weakness to Magic 100 x4 sec
I start to use it Illusion 80 Destruction 75
This spell is for Middle level Mage

[x8reaps]

Originally posted by CullinB:

Originally posted by X8ReaperZ:

Hi i just wanted to ask a question about mage, i read that for the most powerful mage is best to enchant all your gear with fortifiy magicka sigil stones but i wanna keep wearing a robe so the most pieces i can think of.
1. Hood +50
2. Robe +50
3. Amulet +50
4. 2 Rings + 100
5. Boots +50
6. Wrist Irons +50 - For 100% spell effectiveness.
At most leading up to 350+ Magicka, if i can get any better with robes correct me, which kinda sucks cus i dont wanna look lame lol.

I also wanted to ask what the best way to manage spells are? Do i make cheap spam spells that cost like 25 magicka, or large ones that cost 100? I just find it abit annoying to constantly have to cast weakness on them then attack, i tried putting weakness effect in the same spell but it dosnt work.

In spellmaking
Weakness to Magic should place after Damage Spell.

I create simple Killing Spell for my new mage
Target Spell
1)Calm 25 x 2sec
2)Drain Health 100x1sec
3)Weakness to Magic 100 x4 sec
I start to use it Illusion 80 Destruction 75
This spell is for Middle level Mage

Thanks heaps man! I tried doing 3 seconds before but that didnt work? Looks like 4 seconds does. Weird, thanks anyways.

[x8reaps]

I think i just ordered them wrong, it works when you cast twice on them.

[CullinB]

Originally posted by X8ReaperZ:

I think i just ordered them wrong, it works when you cast twice on them.

Here is a Fun spell.
I call it "Rapid Fire"
1)Summon Dagger (minimum cost)
2)Dispel (self minimum cost)
3) Fire damage
4) Shock Damage
5) Frost Damage
last) Shield (self minimum)

3)...5) are free you can put Damage Health but don't work with Drain health

You can fire this Spell very quickly like Machine Gun
I use it for 3rd Person firing practice

[ralphtobybob]

Originally posted by X8ReaperZ:

Hi i just wanted to ask a question about mage, i read that for the most powerful mage is best to enchant all your gear with fortifiy magicka sigil stones but i wanna keep wearing a robe so the most pieces i can think of.
1. Hood +50
2. Robe +50
3. Amulet +50
4. 2 Rings + 100
5. Boots +50
6. Wrist Irons +50 - For 100% spell effectiveness.
At most leading up to 350+ Magicka, if i can get any better with robes correct me, which kinda sucks cus i dont wanna look lame lol.

I also wanted to ask what the best way to manage spells are? Do i make cheap spam spells that cost like 25 magicka, or large ones that cost 100? I just find it abit annoying to constantly have to cast weakness on them then attack, i tried putting weakness effect in the same spell but it dosnt work.

Mage or no, you need to wear real armor. Best enchantment is reflect. Best potion is a restore that adds reflect.

You will sometimes be hit with a Silence spell you may not be able to dispel. You might get paralyzed, so you need to be able to take a beating. Using a Shield spell will help. Carry restore amd fortify magica potions instead.

This version of alchemy lets you make some really useful and cool potions.

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I kinda want to roleplay aswell, i dont wanna be a clunky slow daedra armor guy mage i wanna look like a badass mage.

[The Flying Rodent]

Woohoo non-modded Oblivion mage!

First off: Are you a Breton? If you are, I'd trade one of those rings for a Mundane Ring [looted ring, can get it in the main quest if you kill Raven Camoran after level 22]. It grants 50% magic resistance, which combined with Breton resistance, equates to immunity to magic. Rather silly.

Wearing a robe over wearing pants and shirt puts you at a 50 magicka disadvantage. But! YOU CAN STILL WEAR A ENCHANTED SHIELD, EVEN IF YOU AREN'T WIELDING A WEAPON. Enchant a lightweight Fur Shield with 50 magicka and you've made up the difference. Won't effect your casting ability, and wont show up on your character model. Yay silly game quirks.

How do you mean 'manage spells'? As in what is the most magicka effective way to cast spells?

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I actually am playing with non game-breaking mods like sigil stone selector on gates and spell delete mods etc. I didnt know about the shield which is cool, but what i meant by managing spells is, say u have 300 mana, is it better to make your own spells cost 25, 50, or 100 mana per cast or cheaper = better? Or is it just better to buy spells lol. The current spells i use are just general shock fire and frost but it has weakness to magic+ element on it aswell. I am a breton aswell but i would still prefer magicka instead of resist. You can compensate for it with a shield spell. What idea do u have for "modded oblivion mage"

[ralphtobybob]

Originally posted by X8ReaperZ:

I kinda want to roleplay aswell, i dont wanna be a clunky slow daedra armor guy mage i wanna look like a badass mage.

Shield spells are what you need then. You can add more shield spells as you increase your magicka. If you use the spells from low to high effect, you can stack them.

You can also try to enchant your robes. Reflect of a damage enchantment wolrks well.

A conjure buddy is also essential.

I'm just getting back into Oblivion and still have Skyrim on the brain, so it'll be a few days before I remember everything.

[󰀉tempeh󰀉]

I just put fortify magicka & absorb magicka on my spells to cover the cost.

So I have two of these, hotkeyed:

• Paralyze (in 20') for 1 second on touch
  
• Fortify Magicka 100 pts for 1 second on touch
  
• Absorb Magicka 20 pts for 1 second on touch
  
• Weakness to Magic 100% (in 20') for 4 seconds on touch

One pair with the 20' radius, and one pair without. Add in spells (or enchanted daggers) that drain health 100pts for 1 second with either a soul trap or a 20' radius and you're set for most adversaries. The trouble is these spells will cost 25 and 52 magicka when all your magic skills are 100, so they will cost closer to 125 and 260 for a novice. You'll probably need to start with just bare minimum Weakness to Magic 100% for 4 seconds until your skills are good enough to chain the more complicated versions sustainably. In that regard, chaining cheap spells is definitely better than burning out your whole magicka supply at once, since weakness stacking gives so much damage for a low cost.

The only things that combo doesn't work on is enemies with high magic resistance, absorb, reflect, detection, and immunity to paralysis. In practice, that means vampires and undead (paralysis immunity) and especially liches and xivilai (all of the above). My preferred method for those targets is to use 100% chameleon and repeated sneak attacks with a bound mace, but that isn't always an option.

For liches I use the standard "optimally enchanted weapon":

• Soul Trap 1 second
  
• Fire/Frost/Shock 14 pts for 1 second
  
• Weakness to Fire/Frost/Shock 100% for 1 second
  
• Weakness to Magic 100% for 1 second

With so many effects, some are bound to bypass absorption, and it usually uses 6/18 charges to kill one lich. It more or less requires Azura's Star to use effectively and is a lot of hassle to recharge after every 2 or 3 kills, which is why I don't use it as a primary method of killing things. (Plus sentient targets tend to drink their potions and use their scrolls; part of the appeal of paralysis and weakness stacking with a drain health finisher is the instant kill prevents them from doing so, netting more loot.)

For Xivilai, I have another spell:

• Bound Sword for 30 seconds
  
• Shield 25% for 30 seconds
  
• Restore Fatigue 3 pts for 30 seconds
  
• Restore Health 3 pts for 30 seconds

For all their strengths, Xivilai seem to have either a low agility or a low weight, since they stagger very easily. The best option seems to be just flailing a large weapon at them so that they're too stunned to react. Trouble is, this spell costs 125 magicka with 100 skill, but on the other hand, you won't likely need to cast any other spells for a while. You may also need a high strength and blade skill to make this work.

[ꑭCaliph of Hyperboreaꑭ]

mage is op no matter how u play

[CullinB]

But it is fun playing around Spell Making and Testing how it works

[The Flying Rodent]

By 'modded oblivion mage', I mean one using game changing mods that effect the magnitude of spells. There are some out there that are frankly ridiculous.

Yeah the shield thing is nice. :)

The way spellcasting works in oblivion is a little complicated, suffice to say two things: there's almost no difference in magicka cost between custom and non-custom spells (bar a few), and that low magnitude high duration spells cost less than high magnitude low duration spells.

Some mage info:

http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Magic


And a guide for a Mage character, might contain some useful info.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=873311868

Have a read. :)