The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Game of the Year Edition (2009)

The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion Game of the Year Edition (2009)

Eric May 2, 2017 @ 7:06pm
Breaking the Siege of Kvatch
Hi there. I have a newbie question. I'm really getting my butt handed to me in the "Breaking the Siege of Kvatch" quest. Can I safely leave Kvatch and level up for a few hours and then return without any side effects, like the quest failing? Thanks.
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Flappy Sack May 2, 2017 @ 7:21pm 
You will not fail the quest but keep in mind that leveling up past about level 20 will make more of the dangerous daedra appear, possibly making the quest even harder. It is also safe at any point in your game to go to the gameplay tab in your pause menu and change difficulty up and down to suit your needs
Eric May 2, 2017 @ 8:49pm 
Thanks for replying, Flappy Sack. I'm level 18, but I find Oblivion to be gruelingly difficult. I'd rather not touch the difficulty slider. Even simple creatures like mountain lions put up a decent fight. I wonder if I should go find some better loot and then return to the quest.
Flappy Sack May 2, 2017 @ 8:58pm 
Loot is generally leveled in the game so I think it would be a good idea to find clear a few cave or see some vendors. I agree with you on not wanting to touch the difficulty slider but theres some times that the game can feel a bit rediculous, just do what feels fun to you
CullinB May 3, 2017 @ 4:22am 
Originally posted by Eric:
Thanks for replying, Flappy Sack. I'm level 18, but I find Oblivion to be gruelingly difficult. I'd rather not touch the difficulty slider. Even simple creatures like mountain lions put up a decent fight. I wonder if I should go find some better loot and then return to the quest.

Mountain Lions are deadly Creatures.
ManualMakron May 3, 2017 @ 5:47am 
Try to focus on the strengths and weaknesses of your opponents. Poison, spells and enchantments go a long way.
Bansheebutt May 3, 2017 @ 8:19am 
Specifically, Daedra, other than Frost/Shock Atronachs, are weak to Shock Damage.

The quickest way to find enchanted items is to raid Creature Dungeons. The chests in them will often contain enchanted weapons, jewelry, and armor. You'll know it's a creature dungeon if you encounter Imps, Trolls, Ogres and the like (Not Goblins!). Sideways Cave, near the Imperial City is a good place to start.


Alternatively, Bandit and Marauder bosses are always wearing Enchanted items. Bandit Leaders have Light Armor and Blunt weapons, while Marauder Warlords have Heavy Armor and Blades.
However, other than the Boss Chest, the chests located in their dungeons contain exclusively Gold and occasionally repair hammers or gems.
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Eric May 3, 2017 @ 1:56pm 
Thanks for the comments, everyone. I ultimately lowered the difficulty a tad to progress through that quest.
Omgwtfbbqkitten May 3, 2017 @ 4:47pm 
One thing I like to do before going to Kvatch, is to do Namira's Daedric quest after level 5, or level 2 if you use Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul.

Namira's Ring reflects damage back at your opponents which can increase your survivability and damage output by reflecting damage.

You can also randomly find a Ring of Retribution or a shield with reflect damage as random loot to combine with Namira's ring.
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zeratulcraft May 4, 2017 @ 3:17am 
If you're not at least a little bit optimising your levels, you're falling behind. Enemies simply scale better than you do.
Oblivion can get quite unforgiving into the teens, as creatures begin to level into their nastier variants. On top of that, some of the major quests (like kvatch), contain swarms of enemies, and it is very easy to be overwhelmed.

I'm not sure what sort of character that you're currently playing, but if there's anything I can suggest: try and find a way to avoid fighting many things at once on your own. This is hardest to do as a melee tank. You can use a bow to lure enemies into attacking you one at a time, and sometimes you can get NPC's to follow your character for a period of time if you're doing a quest for them.

For a stealth character: if your sneak is high enough, one can remain in sneak mode and land multiple sneak attack arrows on an opponent without arousing suspicion. This allows your character to wipe out groups of enemies without even being detected! This is of course harder to do in small spaces containing lots of enemies, and unfortunately kvatch has a few of those.

The easiest way to fight multiple opponents? Use magic. Magic in oblivion is leagues ahead of melee and archery. You have many options up your sleeve, the most notable being Conjuration (for summoning allies that can kill or distract opponents) and Illusion (for several flavours including invisibility and paralysis). Alchemy too adds plenty of options, though it requires a little play time ingredient gathering to make good use of.

The downside is that mages are usually the squishiest characters to play, and take a little bit of game know how to get into the right spell casting rhythm. It is, however, definitely worth it.

Best of luck on further quests! :)
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CullinB May 6, 2017 @ 7:50pm 
Originally posted by The Flying Rodent:
Oblivion can get quite unforgiving into the teens, as creatures begin to level into their nastier variants. On top of that, some of the major quests (like kvatch), contain swarms of enemies, and it is very easy to be overwhelmed.

The easiest way to fight multiple opponents? Use magic. Magic in oblivion is leagues ahead of melee and archery. You have many options up your sleeve, the most notable being Conjuration (for summoning allies that can kill or distract opponents) and Illusion (for several flavours including invisibility and paralysis). Alchemy too adds plenty of options, though it requires a little play time ingredient gathering to make good use of.

The downside is that mages are usually the squishiest characters to play, and take a little bit of game know how to get into the right spell casting rhythm. It is, however, definitely worth it.

Best of luck on further quests! :)
I am now being a Vanilla Magic addict. And building my magic addict girl's Restoration skill to test your heavy buff guide. Can't wait going to Kvatch.
Incarnate May 9, 2017 @ 9:29am 
When I played it I ran out of arrows. Gotta plan ahead.

If you really want to know the trick to kicking ass in the Oblivion levels--and mind you this will work 90% of time and completely shave a lot of effort at the cost of any semblance of realism--just get them to follow you near the lava. They follow you in a straight line...so they will fall in and die almost instantly if you plan it right. On a steep mountain by the lava they are completely screwed because they can only really run downward since I guess the AI is terrible and doesn't realize it is an obvious trap.
BondageSpider May 11, 2017 @ 11:57am 
Originally posted by Incarnate:
When I played it I ran out of arrows. Gotta plan ahead.

If you really want to know the trick to kicking ass in the Oblivion levels--and mind you this will work 90% of time and completely shave a lot of effort at the cost of any semblance of realism--just get them to follow you near the lava. They follow you in a straight line...so they will fall in and die almost instantly if you plan it right. On a steep mountain by the lava they are completely screwed because they can only really run downward since I guess the AI is terrible and doesn't realize it is an obvious trap.

I do love using the environment against enemies when I can. I still remember this one time my character got disarmed by a dremora while running up one of those spiral ramps in the Oblivion gates. Punching back desperately, she knocked him off the ramp and fall damage did the rest.

Or the time at low level when one of the dremora wizards summoned a scamp in a narrow hallway and rushed ahead to hit me, just as his scamp threw a fireball, the fireball in the back killed him which dismissed his scamp. I probably couldn't pull that one off again if I planned it.
Oval85 May 13, 2017 @ 6:22am 
Originally posted by Eric:
Thanks for replying, Flappy Sack. I'm level 18, but I find Oblivion to be gruelingly difficult. I'd rather not touch the difficulty slider. Even simple creatures like mountain lions put up a decent fight. I wonder if I should go find some better loot and then return to the quest.
Simple creatures like... mountain lions?! You must be a caveman...
ralphtobybob May 27, 2017 @ 1:42pm 
Originally posted by Eric:
Thanks for replying, Flappy Sack. I'm level 18, but I find Oblivion to be gruelingly difficult. I'd rather not touch the difficulty slider. Even simple creatures like mountain lions put up a decent fight. I wonder if I should go find some better loot and then return to the quest.

I've had the same problem when my primary skills were skills I used the most, like alchemy and restoration. Everything else like Destruction were still below apprentice level. Combat skills were still at moron level.

I tried hitting a fort, got some blade training but continued to get my butt kicked fighting non-humans. Tried Kvatch at level 18 and kept getting killed. All I was doing was increasing my primary skill levels and combat was only going to get worse.

Finally, I decided that having to search containers, gather alchemy materials and having to haggle and sell stuff all over again to get back to where I already was, seemed to be better than continuing.

So i restarted. Went the Nord Barbarian route instead of custom. Working out really well: after about 3 days of gameplay, I'm still at about a level 5. However, not only did I kill the lions in Anvil, I also soul-trapped them. Me: 3 kills Pinarius: 1.

Although the more useful magicka skills were secondary and set at novice level, practicing with a few cheap spells eventually brought them up to apprentice level so I could then use spells like soul-trap and feather.

Another problem with hitting the Gate quests above level 18 or so, is that there's a gate quest that involves rescuing some people. They don't level up however, so trying to keep them alive becomes almost impossible.

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