Official Lore after Morrowind

[Dutchgamer1982]

As I say, what is the storyline of what happend to morrowind, after morrowind, as of official lore.
(I clearly not know all of that as I am stuck mostly in the morrowind game and played the other 2 only a few runs)

what I know is
*the neverarine is suposed to went on a trip the the 2d continent were he/she still is.
*vivec left, current whereabouts unknown.
*almexia, still lives in mournhold.
*vivec city is destroyed by that rock falling on it after all without vivec holding it back.
*ald'ruhn is destroyed during the oblivion crisis
*redoran faction was out to wage war in skyrim at the time, while their homecity is gone, whereabouts of their faction leaders, and current state is unknown.
*ghostgate is destroyed by deadra-forces during that same oblivion crisis.
*balmorra (as well as an unspecified number of other city's) are destroyed by a vulcanic eruption of the red mountain, caused by the shockwave of the destruction of vivec.
*deadra are now no longer contained, but have no strong leadership either, lower ranking dagoths wage havoc.
*the imperal empire fell, with certain legions still in morrowind, some forts still stand imperials there now stand as a sort of knighly order within dunmer juristicion, with both fighting side by side for survival.
*the redoran faction may have been wiped out, or severely reduced, in any way the fighting capability of dunmer troops has been greatly reduced, and they have withdrew to the ashlands, fighting a resistance war against deadra that now roam freely most the land, without a ghostgate holding them back
*the other 4 houses still live, though it is not sure how the balance of power is now
*mournhold has been destroyed, but is under the proces of slow rebuilding.

any lore I am missing? and from the looks of this morrowind looks very bleak. any hope of restorations and rebuild of those city's and places?
-why aint the neverarine returning?
-where is vivec now?
-what city's of the morrowind game, are still standing, and what are no longer?
-can the ghostfence/gate be rebuild/the land healed (lava IS fertile after all, once cooled down)
-how is the current leadership of the dunmer and their army's currently structured?

[Seanobi.old]

Seriously? -_-

==*SPOILERS STARTED*

*Almalexia still lives in Mournhould? How? When she is dead, by your own hand?

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[Dutchgamer1982]

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Seriously? -_-

==*SPOILERS STARTED*

*Almalexia still lives in Mournhould? How? When she is dead, by your own hand?

==*SPOILERS ENDED*

no spoilers for me, I played THIS game many many years.. the others.. less.

Still I heared that the limited later lore that did excists contradicts that fact and that she in fact is still alive. (though that could have been a stub..)
->
what we slayed btw was the corrupted version of almexia, after we destroyed the heart, the source of that corruption, there's no telling what could have happend to her.

And if we go that way : heck I WAS the lord of redoran, and I slain vivec:P and I sure never left for tamriel;)

[Fireeye]

what I know is
*the neverarine is suposed to went on a trip the the 2d continent were he/she still is.
Yes, the Nerevarine went to Akavir, never to return.

*vivec left, current whereabouts unknown.
Yes, after stuffing his Ebony Spears into the mouth of Azura to shame her for the entire Nerevarine business.

*almexia, still lives in mournhold
Nope, Almalexia lies dead in the Clockwork city, next to Sotha Sil. She was slain by the Nerevarine. (See addendum)

*vivec city is destroyed by that rock falling on it after all without vivec holding it back.
Yes. The impact also causes the eruption of Red Mountain, I think.

*ald'ruhn is destroyed during the oblivion crisis
Yes, it was first destroyed by Daedra during the Oblivion Crisis (even though the Redoran raised the entire bloody Skar to fight them). It was undergoing rebuilt later but then Red Mountain errupted.

*redoran faction was out to wage war in skyrim at the time, while their homecity is gone, whereabouts of their faction leaders, and current state is unknown.
Don't know about that.

*ghostgate is destroyed by deadra-forces during that same oblivion crisis.
It was never revealed whether the Daedras' siege was sucessful, but its pretty much certain that Ghostgate was destroyed when Red Mountain erupted.

*balmorra (as well as an unspecified number of other city's) are destroyed by a vulcanic eruption of the red mountain, caused by the shockwave of the destruction of vivec.
Yes.

*deadra are now no longer contained, but have no strong leadership either, lower ranking dagoths wage havoc.
I think the Ash Creatures died with Dagoth Ur and the Heart of Lorkhan, seeing how both served as their source of power.

*the imperal empire fell, with certain legions still in morrowind, some forts still stand imperials there now stand as a sort of knighly order within dunmer juristicion, with both fighting side by side for survival.

The Empire fell at some time after the events of Oblivion, but still was very much alive and kicking after the events of Morrowind. I don't know what happened to the Imperial settlements in Morrowind after the Red Year.

*the redoran faction may have been wiped out, or severely reduced, in any way the fighting capability of dunmer troops has been greatly reduced, and they have withdrew to the ashlands, fighting a resistance war against deadra that now roam freely most the land, without a ghostgate holding them back

As mentioned above, the Ash Creatures are all but extinct. The Daedra roaming everywhere was a result of the Oblivion crisis, which also was temporary. House Redoran actually is the strongest Dunmer House by the time of Skyrim, but I don't know how this looks like immediately after the events of Morrowind.

*the other 4 houses still live, though it is not sure how the balance of power is now
House Hlaalu was disbanded after the Red Year, House Redoran is the most powerful House, House Telvanni still doesn't give a damn about anything, House Indoril is slowly dying because the Tribunal is dead/gone. Don't know about House Dres. This information applies to the time of TES Skyrim:Dragonborn

*mournhold has been destroyed, but is under the proces of slow rebuilding.
Don't know. It's entirely possible, but considering its relatively close to the Argonian borders, it might also be that the city was captured by the An-Xileel.



-why aint the neverarine returning?
Because this would lead to problems with the continuity. And players screaming "But MY Nerevarine was a Khajit Necromancer-Spellsword!!111". Same reason as to why we don't see the Hero of Kvatch again. (Well, we actually do, but he/she's Sheoggorath now).

-where is vivec now?
We don't know. Given that he has achieved Chim, he could literally be everywhere. It has been hinted that he has been taken by the Daedra (beeing an old friend of Molag Bal), but that would surprise me.

-what city's of the morrowind game, are still standing, and what are no longer?
Few if any. Vvardenfall was completely devastated by the erruption of Red Mountain, and much of Mainland Morrowind was also badly hit (and subsequently invaded by cranky Argonians).

-can the ghostfence/gate be rebuild/the land healed (lava IS fertile after all, once cooled down)
No need for the Ghostgate, as the Ash Creatures no longer pose a threat and the Ashblight no longer exists. Whether or not Vvardenfall can recover from the Red Year remains to be seen.

-how is the current leadership of the dunmer and their army's currently structured?
See above. Redoran's in charge as of now (that is, the time of TES Skyrim: DB), as some new Great Houses have been created. Other than that, things are unclear, especially because what little we do know comes from Michael Kirkbride, who consumes every drug known to mankind before he starts writing stuff.


EDIT: To clarify things regarding Almalexia's death: The Tribunal originally was mortal and went under the names of Alma (=Almalexia), Vekh (=Vivec) and Seht (=Sotha Sil). During or following the Battle of Red Mountain, a split in reality occured and it branched off into two versions: In one version, the Tribunal remained loyal to Nerevar. In the other one (our one) they conspired against him and murdered him, using the divine powers of the Heart of Lorkhan to become Gods (the Almalexia, Vivec, and Sotha Sil we know).

So, in a way, Almalexia still lives, although under a different reality and under the name of Alma. This is also what Vivec means when he says that Vivec killed Nerevar, but Vekh didn't.

[Reformed Pirate]

I only know the events until the end of the Oblivion crisis. Anyway here are my two cents:

There are rumors the Nerevarine killed Vivec or that he went to Akavir as well, but the real answer depends on you. Exactly as you know the gender or the race of the Nerevarine. I really like this open ending instead forced role play like “No, you didn't killed Helseth with the very dagger of his Father. He actually lived to abolished slavery, lol”.

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-can the ghostfence/gate be rebuild/the land healed (lava IS fertile after all, once cooled down)

As Fireeye said, the Ghostgate is no longer needed. At most it could be a shrine to honor the fallen warriors.

About to “heal the land”:
<In dunmer voice> If you want to destroy your surroundings to mold it to your needs you should stay in Cyrodiil, outlander. We dunmer have learned to adapt and even to thrive not despite but because of the harsh conditions of Morrowind.

We grow edible plants like Wickwheat and Ash Yam in the very ashes of the Red Mountain. We harvest Saltrice and Marshmerrow from the rocky “infertile” coasts. We mine Kwama eggs and hunt wildlife for meat and hides. I say that for us, the descendant of Veloth, this land is already "healed" </End of dunmer voice>

[Dutchgamer1982]

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I only know the events until the end of the Oblivion crisis. Anyway here are my two cents:

There are rumors the Nerevarine killed Vivec or that he went to Akavir as well, but the real answer depends on you. Exactly as you know the gender or the race of the Nerevarine. I really like this open ending instead forced role play like “No, you didn't killed Helseth with the very dagger of his Father. He actually lived to abolished slavery, lol”.

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-can the ghostfence/gate be rebuild/the land healed (lava IS fertile after all, once cooled down)

As Fireeye said, the Ghostgate is no longer needed. At most it could be a shrine to honor the fallen warriors.

About to “heal the land”:
<In dunmer voice> If you want to destroy your surroundings to mold it to your needs you should stay in Cyrodiil, outlander. We dunmer have learned to adapt and even to thrive not despite but because of the harsh conditions of Morrowind.

We grow edible plants like Wickwheat and Ash Yam in the very ashes of the Red Mountain. We harvest Saltrice and Marshmerrow from the rocky “infertile” coasts. We mine Kwama eggs and hunt wildlife for meat and hides. I say that for us, the descendant of Veloth, this land is already "healed" </End of dunmer voice>

where is the like button;) your voice message is great:P

It must be because I prefer playing high elve (and still see a need to restore the dunmer to their original yellow skin, and rebuild the aldmeri dominations that predates the empire;)

there still ARE deadra, and with deadra roaming free, less of the land is suited for (re)building settlements.

Still not all dummer think like the one you just spoke of, he would most likely be an ashlander, but what of the great houses, the goverment, and without the warrior house, who leads dunmer army's against invasions... not ALL dunmer prefer to live as ashlander.
unless you are suggesting, only the ashlanders survived;)
Or that the great houses reverted back to being tribal, rather than urbanised.

hmmzz as per wiki :

During the Oblivion Crisis of 3E 433, the Empire pulled the Legions out of Morrowind and the province was left virtually defenseless. While House Redoran succeeded in creating an army, and House Telvanni were able to close some of the Oblivion Gates, House Hlaalu was left powerless without the backing of the Empire. Following the eruption of Red Mountain in 4E 5, which obliterated the settlements on Vvardenfell, Morrowind came under siege from the Argonians of Black Marsh. House Hlaalu, due to their close ties with the Imperial administration, became the scapegoat for all of the Dunmer people's suffering. As a result, Hlaalu was stripped of its Great House status and dismissed from the Grand Council.[10] The previously unknown House Sadras was selected to fill their space.[11] House Redoran became the eminent power in Morrowind, taking the position as leaders of the Grand Council. They moved the capital to the Redoran city of Blacklight, where the Grand Council meets within the Rootspire.

I have however no idea where this is based on, no official sources. and it is not entirely accurate, as I already know some imperial legions did stay (though no longer part of the empire, so technically yes, it's a withdraw)

[Ygolnac]

Everythin said is super true, i would like to add something from a book i've red in Skyrim Dragonborn:

Religious changes:

After Almalexia and Sotha Sil are dead, Vivec lost interest in mundane world to the point the meteor fell on the city, shattering it and making Red Mountain erupt.

After these event the "dissident priests" took control of the Temple making the NEW TEMPLE.
Now the good Daedra (boethia, mephala and azura) are not considered anymore "anticipations" but the true gods that always ruled dunmer destiny, and now they are the "revendications".
Almalexia, Sotha Sil and Vivec are reduced to state of "saints" like Nerevar, and Veloth is the prophet.

The ashlanders, considered fools in Morrowind time, now are considered WISE becouse they never stopped worshipping the TRUE GODS and the ancestors. Now religious Dunmers must make pelgrimages in to the ashlands and seek counsel with the "wise womans".

Indoril house, deeply involved into "old" temple, was closed and fully incorporated into the "new" temple clergy. Now anyone that becomes a "new" temple priest automatically becomes an Indoril, thus washing away any political power they had.

WAR

the Argonians started an invasion from Black Marsh, little is known of that territory, but very probably house Dres was destroyed and enslaved by Argonians.

House Haalu was deeply involved with the empire, and when the empire left Morrowind, they basically lost all their power.

Telvanni couldn't care less at the time, and the same is now, they make fungus tower grow and do their business. (Neloth made a fungus city grow in Solstheim and he is completly ROCKING there in 4E 201).

Redoran basically are the winners of all this, now even if there is a great house council, practically the Redoran have all the power.


I might be mistaken, but i think someone told me Mournhold was rebuilt to its past magnificence.

[Ygolnac]

Basically in 4E 201 Morrowind is an Ash Waste, with Red Mountain continuosly erupting, no Empire presence, all the cities shattered and some rebuilt, the Argonian took the south noone opposing them, the religion was changed, and Redoran do what they can.

Telvanni are rocking as usual not caring.

Entire Tamriel is on the verge of destruction. the Thalmors are invading everything becouse they want to dostroy Nirn to go back being Gods.

The Empire is almost gone, practically conquered by Thalmors, the Emperor is dead (lol) and vacant.

In Skyrim the King of Kings is dead and there's civil war. (Someone saved the world destroying Alduin but only 5 people seems to have noticed that).

I think that in TES VI the Thalmor plot will go further and the 4E will end the current "kalpa" time period, so they can make another Nirn completly new in TES VII

[Dutchgamer1982]

Good intell, not saying I am partuculairy fond of the outcome though.

As said I was hoping more for a storyline like :

The Nerrevarine did not leave after the morrowind events, but forfilled the profecy completly and drove out the imperal armies, and restored full power to the dunmer, and rebuild the war machine
(refusing to give it to the empire as per accord was agreed, effectively going AGAINST vivec's rule)
His rule was more balanced than the camona tong and such may have liked, he did alow foreigners in, but more balanced.
He increased the numer of houses, to install a better balanced (more democratic) goverment, as a new sixt house and a new seventh need to be installed (to fill the places of house dagoth and house dwemer)
Vivec because of his now discovered fraud, was stripped of some his political power by the neveranine, and the story of what he really did, was made publicly (though not personally by the neverarine) the neverarine chooise to not back the truth nor the lie of the temple.
This caused a more diverse religion spread in Morrowind, with the traditional deadra worship gaining more status and the temple less, but also room for the imperal believes.

While the neverarine kicked the empire out, this was done relarively peacefully, as many in the empire saw no gain in the occupation, and the emperor did plan to have the nerrevarine rule morrowind alltogether.

The new goverment power of morrowind for now was changed politically it was a council, led by A trias of 3 great leaders.
1 seat was for the neverarine
1 seat was for a warchief, apointed by the ashlander tribes
1 seat was for a king, elected by the great houses (king hlaalu would remain king, but after his death his son would not follow him up but all the houses would elect a new king together)

Below them was the great council, with in it the leaders of all the 7 great houses + 1 seat for the temple (who for now elected vivec to take that seat)

Both these governing body's per decree held equal power, but when the trias and the great council disagreed, the veto right lay with the trias.

The attitude against foreigners in the empire was less drastic than some dunmer may have wanted. It was decreet that all foreigners in morrowind were given a chooice.
The beast-races would have to leave or remain in slavery (they were given a chooice)

The man-races were given the option to stay but they were prohibited to stay in any guilds or great houses, and hence wield any influence. The only 2 guilds excluded from this rule were the mage guild (for it's community service) and the imperial cult (because free religion).

The mer-races were considred equal, hence all bosmer and altmer were given the chooice of by law becoming dunmer, and have themselves and all their offspring integrate into dunmer society. If they not wish to do so, they would be treathed as man for the law.

any murdering and killing because of racism (as was expected to happen by those who found the neverarine was being to mild) was acted upon harshly by the 3 lives for 1 policy.
anyone who takes a life out of racism, will get a black flag on him, and his 2 closest living relatives. making it free for all houses and factions to kill them and take their stuff within 1 year after the black flag is issued.

[Ygolnac]

Good things about RPG is that you can write your own story, especially if you don't care about following titles.

Your "utopistic" ending is not suitable to continue an interesting videogame storyline. We need war, despair, unjustice, impelling doom to have plots to go on playing.

Nerevarine is not even considered a single individual, it's a REAL nerevar incarnation, so there is no difference from Nerevar and Nerevarine, it's a Meta-soul changing bodies, probably the same one that was called Ysmir, the Underking, Uriel Septim and the Last Dragonborn. So he went to another continent but is probably dead while his/her soul goes on innhabiting another newborn.

And Tamriel is really wretched, on the verge of annhilation. There are more ruins than buildings. Doom is coming.

[Dutchgamer1982]

Concerning the hated topic of slavery the factions were divided, many houses prefered it, others opposed it. It was decieded that while slavery remained legal it was better regulated.

*any person born as a child of a slave will at the age of pubery given a free chooise, he may freely chooice to remain a slave, or make a chooise according to the beast-man-mer laws.
*it is forbidden to capture and enslave anybody, this is punisable by law
*a person may chooice to become a slave nstead of jailtime or capital punishment
*a person may chooice to become a slave to have a black flag removed from him (making this chooice saves his live but removes all his personal rights and property)
*a person who has a high depth against somebody else, may be sold as slave to pay for that depth.
*prisoners of war may only be enslaved if they were members of the attacking military, not if they were civilians.

Furthermore
*the owner of a slave is responsible to protect the slave against basic harm, and feed, house and cloth him according to basic needs.
*failing to do so may depending on the depth of the intrusion lead to punishments from the imediate freedom of said slave, to the ultimate punishment of ceading all his property to said slave or his living relatives and become a slave to them yourself.

Now during the oblivion crisis things did change : nerrevarine did age... and he was still obsessed with restoring the dunmer (aka find a cure for their dark skin restore them to gold) as well as healing the land (end the ashstorms, restore the land to how it was before 1E)
While eventually, with the help of vivec the neveratine did succed (dunmer now were gold skinned again) this came at a price, as out of the nothing, the chimer repareaed, ust after the oblivion crisis..

shortly after this crisis (early 4E) both vivec (who slowly lost his magic, and used the last of it to have the rock slowly land, instead of keeping it up all the time) and the neverarine died of old age.. and while their spirits may repear some times, this caused less direct involement of them in morrowind politics..

and while the war was won, the deadra still layed waste to many city's, before all was cleaned up.

These changes combined, led to the dunmer looking for allies in the bosmer and altmer (as those races always had a good reputation with them), in a hope to stand against the newly risen chimer treath.

this however combined with changes in those terretories led to a segredation between the races, the mer became quite xenofobic (man and beast alike were killed or enslaved on the spot) and a return to the old aldmeri domination (a combination of bosmer, dunmer and altmer).

the empire, while weakened was indeed partly occcupied (as that was the price to be paid for help against the chimer) so part of the empire was conquered..)

the argonians and khajiit, now cut off from the empire by a aldmeri force between them, formed an alliance of their own, mostly defensive using the harsh layout of their own lands.
they were in NO state to wage a war, and aside from dunmer who hunted for slaves there (while still illigal by law... in this new era.. this law was not uphold like it should)
they were pretty much left alone.

man likewise allied, with redguard, what remained of the imperials, and the nord forming a group of their own.

this led to the start of E5, where a VERY advanced Dwemer force returned right on the border between skyrim and morrowind, with both man and mer fighting to opose them, but while the dwemer were stronger than both the aldmeri, or the alliance of man, they were not stronger than both combined. but since both were also in a state of cold war with eachother... that gave the dwemer the upper hand.

how is that for a game setting;)

[Dutchgamer1982]

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Good things about RPG is that you can write your own story, especially if you don't care about following titles.

Your "utopistic" ending is not suitable to continue an interesting videogame storyline. We need war, despair, unjustice, impelling doom to have plots to go on playing.

Nerevarine is not even considered a single individual, it's a REAL nerevar incarnation, so there is no difference from Nerevar and Nerevarine, it's a Meta-soul changing bodies, probably the same one that was called Ysmir, the Underking, Uriel Septim and the Last Dragonborn. So he went to another continent but is probably dead while his/her soul goes on innhabiting another newborn.

And Tamriel is really wretched, on the verge of annhilation. There are more ruins than buildings. Doom is coming.

and yes all is in real lore in ruins, most likely because the original writers left afer morrowind, and writing good lore (without discontinuities that fans will notice) is not a talent everybody has.
not saying I particulairy like that, as I was pretty much looking forward visiting sunset island in all it's glory, or say visit places in morrowind we all know, a couple hundred years later.. see how they changed. revisit famililair places.
having all in ruins.. is not as fun from a nostalgic gameplay point of vieuw;)

[Ygolnac]

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Concerning the hated topic of slavery the factions were divided, many houses prefered it, others opposed it. It was decieded that while slavery remained legal it was better regulated.

*any person born as a child of a slave will at the age of pubery given a free chooise, he may freely chooice to remain a slave, or make a chooise according to the beast-man-mer laws.
*it is forbidden to capture and enslave anybody, this is punisable by law
*a person may chooice to become a slave nstead of jailtime or capital punishment
*a person may chooice to become a slave to have a black flag removed from him (making this chooice saves his live but removes all his personal rights and property)
*a person who has a high depth against somebody else, may be sold as slave to pay for that depth.
*prisoners of war may only be enslaved if they were members of the attacking military, not if they were civilians.

Furthermore

Mhhh, i suggest you revisit the lore a little bit, there are many inconsistencies in your writing.

The chinmer left summerset led by Boethia, Azura and Mephala, Veloth being their prophet. When Vivec, Sotha Sil and Almalexia broke the promise done to Nerevar and use the Dwemer tool to become Gods, they were cursed by Azura that changed their skin into dark green and their eyes into red, and also said that the Dunmer destiny would be linked to the Tribunal destiny. So chinmer where changed into dunmer and cannot return from nowhere. And Dunmer destiny is one with Tribunal destiny.

You, the Morrowind player, are Nerevar, and have a great deal in shattering the Tribunal. You kill Almalexia (she turned mad), but the more important thing you have made is killing Lorkhan hearth, thus neglecting the Tribunal their god status.

Basically you are a revenge ghost by the past that comes back to fulfill a daedra prophecy: in shattering hearth of lorkhan you shatter the tribunal and thus YOU doom the dunmer society.
And in fact the Red Mountain eruption destroys Vvandrefell becouse Vivec stopped caring, it was only a matter of time. They say Vivec is alive somewhere, but i bet Boethia had its revenge too, and it likes to litterally devour gods (as it did with trinimac, profanating altmer religion and creating malakath, that cursed a good portion of elves into orcs).

Basically where you see political and military things there are instead religious and magical things, and the nerevarine, though defeats dagoth ur, is not a benevolent figure, and it was never meant to rule dunmer. Nerevar himself was a supreme ruler, but was betrayed and now he wants only revenge, this is why he comes back in the form of an OUTLANDER.

And in fact the Nerevarine prophecy is made by ashlanders, who despise Tribunal, and Tribunal opposes the Nerevarine prophecy by declaring it illegal, killing its followers and burning the few books (mainly ashlanders have an oral tradition passed by the wise women, and they worship Azura Boethia and Mephala).

How Nerevar dies is discussed, the Tribunal says he died during the red mountain battle, the ashlanders says it was killed by almalexia, vivec and sotha sil years later during an House council, so nobody can stop them in using the kragenac tools and becoming gods,

For me, going in Solstheim during Skyrim, understanding what happened in morrowind during centuries and seeing again some chars (Neloth for the win) made me want toreplay morrowind entirely.

At the time i didn't know, now i want to see gods die! I want to see where the dwemer doomed themself! I want to speak with Barenziah! All the lore added later gave Morrowind a legendary status to everyone that studies TES lore.

Thinking about all of this the Dragonborn prophecy is quite a more poor piece of writing indeed, the Alduin plot really seems marginal, the main thing appears to be the Thalmor prophecy. And the Oblivion Crisis is less interesting too, an evil god that wants to destroy reality. Mer turned into gods and cursed by other gods, using divine tools, and long prophecies with trials are way more interesting.

[nightwalker83137]

Where is the proof of this? As several others have stated a couple of the things you have written above are wrong and if you have finished Morrowind and both expansions you would know this.

*balmorra (as well as an unspecified number of other city's) are destroyed by a vulcanic eruption of the red mountain, caused by the shockwave of the destruction of vivec.

This is the only statement from what you have written above that could be true (afaik) but there is evidence of this after playing through morrowind although, how far the destruction spreads is anyone's guess.

[Dutchgamer1982]

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Where is the proof of this? As several others have stated a couple of the things you have written above are wrong and if you have finished Morrowind and both expansions you would know this.

*balmorra (as well as an unspecified number of other city's) are destroyed by a vulcanic eruption of the red mountain, caused by the shockwave of the destruction of vivec.

This is the only statement from what you have written above that could be true (afaik) but there is evidence of this after playing through morrowind although, how far the destruction spreads is anyone's guess.

make a difference between OFFICIAL lore (my first posts) and wishfull thinking. if you read the progress of responces you sure would see my last 2 posts are "what I wish the lore was, rather than the REAL lore of the neveraine leaving, balmorra destroyed, and so on"

and what I base the parts that I did post as "official lore" on.. well sources I've red in books, and storylines in both oblivion and skyrim (both playing at a later date than morrowind)
The destruction of Ald'ruhn, as well of most of the destricion of house redoran was confirmed by a post on the official forums by a bethseba employee, as a chrismas drawing (the fall of ald'ruhn)
in OFFICIAL lore it has been confirmed that

*the empire DID retreat from morrowind officially (though it also is confirmed at least ONE of the forsts (ebonheart) still stands.. who's justiction they now fall under is anyone's guess.
*the nerrevarine DID leave for Tamriel, and has never been seen again.
*during the oblivion crisis the telvani DID close some of the gates, but not before the deadra coming out them wiped out ald'ruhn completely, during the war with magic the big crab came to live again (littlerly the whole city rose to defence) but they were defeated nevertheless (how many survivers unknown)
*the army of redoran was at that time battleing against skyrim (unknown how many survivers returned from that war)
*after destroying ald'ruhn, the deadra left for ghostgate, that they most likely destroyed too.
*it also has been said many other city's in the region have been destroyed (with more remote city's like balmorra and vivec, still being relatively unharmed.
*however shortly after the start of E4 vivec DID leave (for unknown destination) causing the rock hooverying above the city to start moving again.
*for a while magic kept it in place but eventually that magic failed, causing the rock to crash down with ALL it's original momentum, causing vivec-city to be completely destroyed.
*due the floodwave that resulted from this, balmorra was also very damaged (not wiped out, but laid in ruins)
*balmorra just had started rebuilding efforts, when an eruption of red mountain (caused, or hastened by the shockwaves of the destruction of vivec) wiped it out completely.
*while it is unknown if ald'ruhn was being rebuild at that time, clearly it could NOT have survived that.. so it's gone completely, along with almost any other settlement on Vvardenfell.
*those who survived on Vvardenfell now had to live on a wasteland full of deadra (needless to say no more ghostgate or fence) hence they had to retreath to the ashlands.
*while many of the mainland city's of morrowind (those not on Vvardenfell) did survive the explotion relatively unharmed, the destruction of house redoran, followed by this smackdown, weakened the dunmer enouigh for the argonians to take advantage
*the argonians invaded what was left of morrowind, and all dunmer fled to skyrim (those that surviced anyway) in their revenge they sacked the capital city of mournhold,
*however Soltheim did remain under dunmer control, and thats where the dunmer live now, it has been officially given to them by the nordic king
*in the new goverment, set up there, it was agreed that Hlaalu, because of it's backing of the hated imperials was stripped of it's rank as great house, and the unknown house of Sadras took their place.
*the dunmer managed to take back mournhold and start some repairs, but much of morrowind is still under argonian occupation.

So at the moment :
-there are NO mayor city's left on Vvardenfell, only ashlander tribes.
-all of eastern morrowind, is under argonian occupation
-Mournhold is now a border city, and while under reconstruction, it lays mostly in ruins.
-the seat of power for the dunmer lies now on soltsheim
-redoran regardless of being nearly completely wiped out, managaed to came out on top of the new goverment somehow.

very bleak indeed. and sad, because that rules out revisiting any of the places we know..

[nightwalker83137]

Interesting! If that is correct maybe we will see some evidencew of that in TES Online.