New to Morrowind, Game keeps crashing

[Celtic Bastard]

I'm new to Morrowind (despite me having it in my steam library for a few years now, just never got around to playing) and I keep having frequent crashes. First time when I opened a door, second time when I was attacking a crab with a fireball and the last one was just walking. These are highly disruptive and are killing any enjoyment I might be having. Is there anything I can do to limit these or outright stop them? Any and all advice would be welcome.

[lonetrav]

No idea - I've never experienced crashes of this kind despite playing it since release. Do you use mods? What is your PC like? What does "frequent" mean? Are the crashes reproduceable?
If you haven't done it already, try the following:
- Verify your Morrowind installation in Steam.
- Install Patch For Purists and the Morrowind Code Patch (with default settings).
- Don't use any other mods until your crash problem is fixed.

I'm sure someone will suggest you play OpenMW. You could try this, too, but if the problem is caused by Morrowind files used by OpenMW (a possibility), it may not help.
Moreover, OpenMW is not quite the same as Morrowind, gameplay-wise. Whether or not this matters to you is your choice.

PS: Interestingly enough, there is another thread next to yours ("Game Crashing") which reports an OPenMW crash when going through doors. :-)

[Celtic Bastard]

As of when I made the post the crashes were completely random with little rhyme or reason. After some investigation I found that it might of been caused by me installing the mods improperly, to I plan to fix that later on today. I will update after I try testing things out.

[dopugsnotdrugs]

its cuz your pc is new and powerful and your dong is mighty

all you need is morrowind grafix extender and unofficial patch which are both found on nexus mods.. then once you have them installed your game will run and it will be solid

you might also try windows xp compatibility mode or somethin

i would go with morrowind patch and graphics extender, they are soo easy to use and make the game stay vanilla but also waaaayyyyy better :)

regards~

[Mr Fox]

So this is similar to a bug that ive encountered a long time ago. It has to do with sound effects, try turning off sound effects and seeing if it runs, if it doesn't crash you have found the bug and will have to do some patching to fix the issue, if not try disabling any mods and updating any graphic and sound drivers.

[cheshirm]

check windows event viewer and also windows reliability history.
might have a game crash event or system related errors.
an error msg would help narrow the possibilities.

[Celtic Bastard]

Originally posted by dopugsnotdrugs:

its cuz your pc is new and powerful and your dong is mighty

all you need is morrowind grafix extender and unofficial patch which are both found on nexus mods.. then once you have them installed your game will run and it will be solid

you might also try windows xp compatibility mode or somethin

i would go with morrowind patch and graphics extender, they are soo easy to use and make the game stay vanilla but also waaaayyyyy better :)

regards~

I wish my dong was mighty lolz
but being serious though what mods would be the best bets? I found a list of mods to help fix a fair few crashing issues (and this time I actually installed the script extender) but I haven't had the chance yet to test it in any detail due to life being evil.

I've installed: Better Dialogue Font, MGE XE Installer, Morrowind Code Patch, Morrowind Enhanced Textures, Patch for Purists and Unofficial Morrowind Patch

[Celtic Bastard]

Originally posted by Mr Fox:

So this is similar to a bug that ive encountered a long time ago. It has to do with sound effects, try turning off sound effects and seeing if it runs, if it doesn't crash you have found the bug and will have to do some patching to fix the issue, if not try disabling any mods and updating any graphic and sound drivers.

I can get it to run for a period of time (haven't tested things out since I made the post, due to life >.< ) but I'm fairly certain the SFX has nothing to do with the crashes. I was getting maybe 15-30 of time in before each crash, and they where all at random times doing random things. But right now I'm hopeful that the mods I currently installed will prevent the crashes, still have to make time to test it though >.<

[Celtic Bastard]

Originally posted by cheshirm:

check windows event viewer and also windows reliability history.
might have a game crash event or system related errors.
an error msg would help narrow the possibilities.

I don't know how to do that >.<
while I have been using pc for decades now, I'm still a massive scrub when it comes to more complex things like that

[lonetrav]

Originally posted by Celtic Bastard:

... I've installed: Better Dialogue Font, MGE XE Installer, Morrowind Code Patch, Morrowind Enhanced Textures, Patch for Purists and Unofficial Morrowind Patch

I'd go with no or a minimum number of mods / patches first. If the game works, you can add mods / patches as you like and try again.
The reasons are simply that it helps to localise the problem, and that the more different things you add to a system, the higher is the probability of failure, caused not only by the components themselves, but also by conflicts, incompatibilities between different components.

In my earlier post I recommended playing with the Code Patch (with default settings) and the Patch For Purists only (because I know from personal experience that this combination works). In your situation I would also consider starting without any mods. You might run into new issues fixed by the MCP and the PFP, but you could at least find out if the ones you described in your first post are still there or not.

[Celtic Bastard]

well I think in my case the issue might of been the fact that I never installed the script extender at all so the never actually had the mods properly installed.... I still feel really stupid over that one >.<

Update: still crashing like a bastard. My next step is to uninstall mods one at a time and test to see if they are causing the crashes

[Two Bears High Fiving]

Originally posted by Celtic Bastard:

well I think in my case the issue might of been the fact that I never installed the script extender at all so the never actually had the mods properly installed.... I still feel really stupid over that one >.<

Update: still crashing like a bastard. My next step is to uninstall mods one at a time and test to see if they are causing the crashes

Did you get it fixed?

[Celtic Bastard]

Regretfully no, I've had irl issues that took my focus for days now and I haven't have the time to work on it. Regardless though I am committed to getting this game to work so I can enjoy Morrowind, still would be nice if it just stopped being a prick and just worked lolz

[KG]

I'm pretty sure you shouldn't use Patch for Purists and Unofficial Morrowind Patch at the same time. They're both going to try to monkey with some of the same things in different ways and I wouldn't be surprised if they broke each other.

If MGE XE was installed properly you should have had some version of MWSE that came along with it I think. You should go and run the updater though in any case.

[Celtic Bastard]

Hmmmm... I was going to start with the graphical mods first but I will start with removing PFP and if I have some spare time today I will test it out and see if it starts to behave

[Celtic Bastard]

Originally posted by Two Bears High Fiving:

Originally posted by Celtic Bastard:

well I think in my case the issue might of been the fact that I never installed the script extender at all so the never actually had the mods properly installed.... I still feel really stupid over that one >.<

Update: still crashing like a bastard. My next step is to uninstall mods one at a time and test to see if they are causing the crashes

Did you get it fixed?

I think I might of solved the problem. While booting up the game I looked at the technical files and noticed that one of the mods was in there, and it was un-selected. Turned it on and the game now seems to be running a might bit smoother. Wont know till I get a full session in but I think that was the main problem.