Vivek has a real meaning

[armageddon]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivek#:~:text=Vivek%20(or%20Bibek%2FBivek%20in,and%2For%20%22conscience%22.

Vivek (or Bibek/Bivek in some regions) is a masculine given name that is popular in South Asia, particularly in India and Nepal. It is of Sanskrit origin and means "wisdom" and/or "conscience".

Found this out while figuring if there was a meaning behind Nerevar

[Ghost]

I wouldn't be surprised given Kirkbride's influences and style, and with them being the 'warrior-poet', but for clarity: the god in Morrowind is Vivec, not Vivek.

Sidenote; you've been making a lot of these types of posts lately. Anything happening there or is it just 'I thought this was cool / interesting'?

[Comrade Burrito]

This post kinda gives me the "Vader means 'Father' in Dutch" vibes, to be honest.

[Ghost]

Comrade Burrito님이 먼저 게시:

This post kinda gives me the "Vader means 'Father' in Dutch" vibes, to be honest.

Yeah, almost certainly it's a total coincidence, but given that it's Kirkbride it is somewhat possible.

[Nebgama]

i don't think its coincidence. The cultures in game are inspired by real life.

HIs alt names are Vivek or Vehk which clearly is inspired by Vivek

Vivec is inspired by south Asian culture. Vivec the place is also located on the southern end of the map, it has cantons where canton was to do with trading systems in south asia. Where Vivec city is a trade hub in the game.

India is apart of south Asia and imo Vivec the location is loosely mapped by the real life equivalent of Bengal Bay which is in India and further in a southern point of south east Asia.

https://youtu.be/LU50meGBf7w

Dunmer are Asian / Indian
Nord are like European
Wood elf probably some sort of east Asian west European Slavic type culture.
Imperial are British or Roman their armor is more like Roman but their diplomacy is more in line to British.
Redguard are African or Jamican
Khajit are like Arabs and middle east type races same with Argoninan.

The rest are comprising of similar traits Breton clearly another Euro style race the rest dunno probably not as applicable.

Orc dunno they have Armor that looks like Samurai so Japanese Asian but they have traits that make them more like European. I could picture them being in upper central Asia more towards like Russia so a Euro Asian mix.

[Nebgama]

You also only need to look at the Empire and see clearly that its modeled after two cultures. Roman stylized attire but primarily British based in their race.

Their whole conquest of taking over Tameriel and having precedence is what the British has done for over a few century now. The British Empire basically has diplomatic status in just about every real world place today and in many countries they govern those countries.

Well the countries govern them selves but they are under the British Empire.

Just look at how many currencies the world over have the British queens head on it. In Morrowind its called Septims.

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Gold

Clearly that looks like the queens head on a dollar as inspiration to me. I live in a country that is apart of the commonwealth and you can see the resemblance. Of course the Romans had coins like this too but that is to far removed from our modern day.

https://www.businessinsider.com/new-portrait-of-the-queen-going-on-all-british-coins-2015-3

[theo]

What are you smoking?
Heads on coins is an ancient Roman invention and British empire no longer exists.
All empires did the same thing as far as conquest, diplomacy and cultural influence are concerned.

[Boshiken]

interresting
- however there is duality and not masculinity

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Vivec

1. as to Duality of Gender

"Vivec has always represented the spirit and duality
...
Mother-Father of Monsters is a title
....
that refers to both his dualistic gender
and his monster offspring

"Molag Bal - The King of Rape
...
After eighty eight days of his body laying with Molag Bal,
during which time Molag filled Vivec's feet with Daedra blood,
Vivec's head had returned to assess the situation.

"Vivec built a structure known as the Provisional House
at the center of this Secret Door so he could see the ages to come
and launch his attack on his monster children."

2. as to Duality of Appearance

"Almalexia fully reverted back to her golden Chimeri appearance,
making her the last individual to have this look.
...
Vivec chose to take a half Chimer, half Dunmer appearance
to embrace his dualistic nature

[Boshiken]

the meaning of Vivec standing behind Nerevar

https://en.uesp.net/wiki/File:GEN-misc-Foul_Murder.png

"Alandro Sul's Account

The Tribunal had become greedy
and coveted the power of the Heart of Lorkhan.
Vivec killing Nerevar by plunging Muatra through him."

"Vivec's Secret Account

declared that he would murder the ruling king
time and time again
until he understood Vivec's teachings"

[Nebgama]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKtr_B4EiQY

Yes but to far removed from us, Look at them all primitive.

i did say that Imperial is a mix between Roman and British, and i would say more so towards British as Britan is the country that stood out and really tried to take over the entire world.

Regardless its two totally different timeline the British conquest is only like 100 years ago. Compared to Romans being a Empire like multiple centuries ago like 30 or more. Hence to far removed from us today.

Clearly the imperial are inspired by both races but more so towards the British in their diplomacy and Vivec is Indian Inspiered.

The British spent a lot if time in India The handle bar mustache is still popular in India today lol thanks to the British.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwlZ_znFdGo

Nobody lkes those mustaches today outside of Indians and then edgy hipsters who thinks its a cool style to bring back its not cool lol. its not 1900 its 2024

[theo]

Romans took over almost all of europe and parts of near east, middle east and africa.
Of course empires were different in how successful they were but I don't see why British comparison. Empire of Tamriel is roman-esque all through. Appearance wise, too, at least by the 2001 standards of how romans should look.
And beyond Tamriel there's at least Akavir that mirrors our far east

[Nebgama]

We are not going to argue semantics. I said Empire is based off of both Roman and British culture.

Clearly the Dunmer are Indian where there is a whole slew of lore in the game of Dunmer and Imperial races having sex and making babies.

Indian and British. I am sure the British had relations like this when they were in India, actually we know they did.

Regadless there is no point to argue nuanced logic because the races, lore and world itself are inspired by many real world concepts.

[LexCondran]

all is fair except, Vivec and the tribunal are all trash
and i enjoy killing them for Azura.
i only ever liked the Daedric princes and Azura
Because we never really get to see much of the other 8 divines

Sheogorath is number 1

[theo]

Azura is daedra unless that was a joke

[LexCondran]

theo님이 먼저 게시:

Azura is daedra unless that was a joke

there is a split, the princes and the divines
they are daedra, but also there is a slight difference between them
the good or bad
but both do good and bad
so its weird
like how they all decided to team up on Jiggalag
and created Sheogorath

Aedra, Daedra

[Boshiken]

theo님이 먼저 게시:

Azura is daedra unless that was a joke

so far - reading in these lore fantasies
everything - seems to be a joke

"Azura is a Daedric Prince whose sphere is dawn and dusk.
...
Moonshadow, Twilight Queen
...
worshipped like a God
...
Goddess of Dusk and Dawn
...
who maintains the appearance of being "good" by mortal standards
...
It is said she wants their love above all else, and for her worshippers to love themselves
...
Her followers acknowledge that she is "cruel but wise"."