Am I leveling at the right speed?

[BrotherChef2355]

I have been playing through many of bethesda's rpg's, like fallout and the elder scrolls and for morrowind I've been leveling quite slowly. I have clocked in 35 hours, most of them for the mages guild and I'm only level 12, am I doing something wrong?

[Central]

In morrowind you level up if you leveled your major and minor skills up enough, if you use skills you do not major or minor in than you will not level up.

the way combat works in morrowind you are spending a lot the early game swinging your weapons (or casting spells) while missing or failing, these misses and failed casts will not raise your stats.

in morrowind you are also spending a lot of time walking around, this will mostly level your acrobatics and athletics and nothing else unless you run into a fight, selecting one of them as a minor or major skill will help you level quickly, personally i do not advice it though since some enemies are leveled and raising those 2 skills does not help you in a fight to much.

your difficulty can be a huge factor here, on lower difficulty your enemies will fall if you sneeze their way, as such fighting enemies on lower difficulty means you get less hits in before they die and therefore you get less exp. Playing on harder difficulty means it takes more hits to kill and as such more exp.

You mentioned the mages guild, their quests are fun to do but especially in the beginning they do not give that many opportunities to fight loads of enemies, there are a lot of fetch quests, collecting plants, pick up a book in a city here etc. Later on their quests are more combat oriented.

To sum up, yes it is completely possible to spend that much time in the game and not be a very high level. actively using your major and minor skills, raising difficulty and getting into more fights will level you up more quickly.

[psychotron666]

That sounds about right especially for a first time play through and if you're a mage cus those skills tend to level slower. You'll start leveling up quicker around about level 15 once you're using your skills more often and can afford training

[theo]

Shouldn't concern you much since main level doesn't affect anything important in the game

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Originally posted by theo:

Shouldn't concern you much since main level doesn't affect anything important in the game

Well your Hitpoints get increased by 10% of your Constitution every Level Upgrade.

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OP dont worry, i have 200 Hours in the Game and am only Level 40 by now, not even touched Tribunal or Bloodmoon. I am Grandmaster of 2 Guilds and work on beeing it in 4 Guilds, i travel everywhere by foot and my Athletics is at 60, i go into every cave i find, i go in every Ruin i find, My Stats are nearly all at 100. Only Charisma and Luck are not maxed at this point.
Leveling is not important. I build my Char so, that i can basically make a Level in 2 Minutes or take a Year to make a Level. Only Skills i need to activly use, no Sneak, no Athletics no armor, nothing that i can't controll, so i get the maximum out of every Level i get. If everything is 100 it doesnt matter if you have something as major or minor skill anyways.


If your Main Skills reach 100 and you can't level anymore, then strip naked, go to a guard, punch him and go to jail. You will lose some Skill Points and can get to basically a infinite Level anyways

[Central]

Originally posted by . -.-. .-.. .. .--. ... .:

Originally posted by theo:

Shouldn't concern you much since main level doesn't affect anything important in the game

Well your Hitpoints get increased by 10% of your Constitution every Level Upgrade.

edit:
OP dont worry, i have 200 Hours in the Game and am only Level 40 by now, not even touched Tribunal or Bloodmoon. I am Grandmaster of 2 Guilds and work on beeing it in 4 Guilds, i travel everywhere by foot and my Athletics is at 60, i go into every cave i find, i go in every Ruin i find, My Stats are nearly all at 100. Only Charisma and Luck are not maxed at this point.
Leveling is not important. I build my Char so, that i can basically make a Level in 2 Minutes or take a Year to make a Level. Only Skills i need to activly use, no Sneak, no Athletics no armor, nothing that i can't controll, so i get the maximum out of every Level i get. If everything is 100 it doesnt matter if you have something as major or minor skill anyways.


If your Main Skills reach 100 and you can't level anymore, then strip naked, go to a guard, punch him and go to jail. You will lose some Skill Points and can get to basically a infinite Level anyways

draining a skill and than paying a trainer also works

[theo]

Yeah it's just not like Oblivion and Skyrim where some quests are locked behind level requirements, all loot and enemies you encounter are level-dependant, and training is limited to X points per level. There's none of this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ in Morrowind, so you should only worry about your stats and skills and ways to improve them, where main level plays its part as a character progression mechanic but nothing more

[psychotron666]

Originally posted by theo:

Shouldn't concern you much since main level doesn't affect anything important in the game

It affects who and what spawns. Golden saints for those juicy souls will spawn at higher levels. In blood Moon you can right random werewolves that can infect you but only if you're a high enough level, otherwise you gotta do the quests to become a werewolf.
Loot found in chests in dungeons will scale to higher levels.

In order to do the back path to the main quest and/or get the left handed wraithguard, you need enough HP to survive it, which needs to be a decent level.

There's a lot of things that level does do in morrowind, but yes you're right in that it doesn't lock you out of quests or anything like that (except the Xbox version which didn't activate the dark brotherhood assassins until level 5).

[WingedKagouti]

Originally posted by psychotron666:

Originally posted by theo:

Shouldn't concern you much since main level doesn't affect anything important in the game

It affects who and what spawns. Golden saints for those juicy souls will spawn at higher levels. In blood Moon you can right random werewolves that can infect you but only if you're a high enough level, otherwise you gotta do the quests to become a werewolf.
Loot found in chests in dungeons will scale to higher levels.

It's worth noting that named NPCs do not scale with levels and a lot of high tier loot is available in predetermined locations.

Also, an animal, daedra, undead, etc. will have the same stats regardless of what level you face it as, unless the stats are specifically altered for a quest. Do note that Diseased and Blighted versions of animals are not the same as the healthy variants.

[marcodiquadro]

I have 22 hours and I'm level 3. Don't worry you're good.
Though I have to admit I don't intend to rush anything in the game,.

[Hammer Of Evil]

OP, good pace.

morrowind is dangerous to overlevel quickly - lets take alchemy, the prime culprit for overleveling.

you go out and pick 10000000 ingredients, then steal the master set from caldera mage guild because you are a chad boss monster man and decide 'ok its time to make drinks'

so you mix a billion potions and eventually you get 100 alchemy. nice.

now you sleep like 15 times and get your levelups. all is good right?

wrong.

now you are level 20+ without any combat skills. a dark brotherhood assassin spawns and DPS's you to death expecting you to have at least murdergod deathlord combat skills at lvl 20+, but you dont because you only leveled alchemy. gg the end, and cliff racers hate you and squawk at you from the grave, resulting in infinite depression, and angry golden haters start charging at you playing rob zombie's 'demon speeding' in the distance. the end.

so by taking your time to make sure your desired combat skills are the highest or at least keeping up with everything, you can prevent infinite depression and eat cliff racer for lunch, and soultrap angry golden hater because they deserve to worship the ground you walk on because you are the god, how can they kill a god? what a grand and intoxicating innocence.. gg forever.

[Breakdancing Jesus]

This is going to sound crazy, but I remember selecting acrobatics as a minor skill and just "hopping" everywhere in Morrowind. It helped to get my level up AND you could leap to the roofs of buildings. Definitely had its use cases when trying to scale crappy terrain or get away from enemies. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise that acrobatics is not worth it lol

[Lobo de hielo]

Your levels sound fine. This is a long game, depending on how you play it. You want to over level and become a god, well....that might just spoil your game.
Just for a little information about how long this game can take, gleaned off the web:
"the main story arc alone takes an average of 45 hours to complete. If you add side quests to it, then you are looking at an average of 105 hours to complete the game. For hardcore gamers looking to achieve 100% completion of the game, brace yourself, it will take a whopping average of 410 hours to complete every single mission and unlock all achievements in the game. The timing will also vary based on what difficulty level you are playing the game."

"Single-Player Average Rushed Leisure
Main Story 45h 02m 27h 45m 55h 24m
Main + Extras 105h 12m 57h 25m 221h 09m
Completionists 410h 17m 253h 37m 709h 02m
All PlayStyles 127h 49m 54h 35m 560h 14m"
You are playing a very long to complete game, so enjoy the adventure.

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Originally posted by slayor3000:

Your levels sound fine. This is a long game, depending on how you play it. You want to over level and become a god, well....that might just spoil your game.
Just for a little information about how long this game can take, gleaned off the web:
"the main story arc alone takes an average of 45 hours to complete. If you add side quests to it, then you are looking at an average of 105 hours to complete the game. For hardcore gamers looking to achieve 100% completion of the game, brace yourself, it will take a whopping average of 410 hours to complete every single mission and unlock all achievements in the game. The timing will also vary based on what difficulty level you are playing the game."

"Single-Player Average Rushed Leisure
Main Story 45h 02m 27h 45m 55h 24m
Main + Extras 105h 12m 57h 25m 221h 09m
Completionists 410h 17m 253h 37m 709h 02m
All PlayStyles 127h 49m 54h 35m 560h 14m"
You are playing a very long to complete game, so enjoy the adventure.

The Speed Running World Record is at 2:37 Minutes without loading times^^

But it is still a RPG and i play it like i am me Char. I talk to people, even if i know they dont tell me anything new, just because why not, i don't run in towns, i normally switch from Gear to clothes in town and so on and forth. I pretend i live there and that can nobody tell me to do with a quest other than "Bal Molagmer" Quests making me using Gloves lol.
It is a Game that gives you all the possibly to play like you want, so i take that opportunity lol. I prolly read every Book in the Game at least twice, if not more often. Still love it.