WTF are these enchanting prices

[󠀡𝒽𝒶𝓏𝑒 ✔]

so i managed to snag me some grand soul gems and filled them with golden saints , thought that my 50k gold would be more than enough to get myself a constant effect enchantment on three pieces of equipment but these prices are insane , ik the game has no balance at all but this is ridiculous , does my mercantile skill effect the enchanting prices as well ?

[slayor3000]

Yes mercantile affects the cost of having items enchanted.
Remember seeing someone do a test on it:
"raising disposition and more notably your Mercantile skill can drastically reduce the price, and make it go from 48 k (40 disposition and 5 Mercantile) to 5.7 k (100 disposition and 100 Mercantile)."

Also remember to have full fatigue when buying/ selling/ making spells at spellmakers.

[󠀡𝒽𝒶𝓏𝑒 ✔]

yes i always keep my fatigue at full when bargaining at the shops and when trying to raise disposition but mercantile isn't high at all ( 22 ) which means my hours upon hours of gold hoarding is about to go poof , man this game really tests your patience , i was planning on getting sanctuary enchantments , at this rate i am better off training my enchant skill at the guild , it will certainly cost less than buying the services , i will have to enchant it myself i guess

stuff like this makes me appreciate skyrim more tbh

[theo]

Go play Skyrim I guess.
In Morrowind items with constant effects are rare and it's usually something like +5 acrobatics shoes, or a cursed item with strong negative effects, so you're supposed to mostly rely on charged items. That's the point, it's not Skyrim where there are only constant effects and enchanting services don't even exist.
So the real question is what caused this delusion that you can afford or should have multiple constant effect enchantments.

From the balance perspective, it's one of the money sinks any open world RPG needs.

Originally posted by 󠀡𝒽𝒶𝓏𝑒 ✔:

at this rate i am better off training my enchant skill at the guild , it will certainly cost less than buying the services

It will, but there's a twist I won't spoil for you lol.

[Gilpow]

It's good that it's expensive (and it makes sense, considering how amazing a constant effect is): it's an incentive for the player to make money, otherwise there would be almost no point in doing so (the only other thing I can think of is training).

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my personal theory about enchanting services in morrowind is that portion of gold ends up being destroyed in the manufacturing process of a desired item. why anyone with a lot of gold should able to buy partial immortality without any drawbacks?

this of course does not explain how enchanting skill itself works, but enchanting as a skill was vague in every game, probably so that it could be reinvented more easily in future games.

one thing is certain, the sooner we all forget skyrim, the better. a fantasy is only as good as it is cleverly grounded in reality, and skyrim, as a mishmash of looney tunes and pornography, isn't doing any favors for the genre.

[slayor3000]

I actually have an amazing "enchant simulator" spreadsheet, for when you do enchant yourself.
I remember downloading it from one of the fan based sites and from someone who was specialising in understanding enchant and also writing specific parts of history in certain parts of Morrowind.

But so many of you are right, people play this game like the hand held you can be a god with enchantments "Skyrim".
This game is a lot older, but a lot more complex and satisfying unless you want to glitch/ cheat all the skills.
Now when new players realise the cost of being a "god", they either turn to the cheats or appreciate what a great game this is and find other ways to get what they want.
No-one can just walk through this game without stopping and considering what to do next.
Love the adventure not the end destination......in real life that would mean you want to rush to your death without enjoying everything before.

[Salad Wound]

Originally posted by 󠀡𝒽𝒶𝓏𝑒 ✔:

yes i always keep my fatigue at full when bargaining at the shops and when trying to raise disposition but mercantile isn't high at all ( 22 ) which means my hours upon hours of gold hoarding is about to go poof , man this game really tests your patience , i was planning on getting sanctuary enchantments , at this rate i am better off training my enchant skill at the guild , it will certainly cost less than buying the services , i will have to enchant it myself i guess

stuff like this makes me appreciate skyrim more tbh

If you dont mind being a bit cheesy, you can daisy chain intelligence potions until you are good enough to enchant it yourself, because trying to enchant yourself always fail unless your INT is off the charts.

[Lord Rumpkin]

constant effect is overrated anyway. cast on use is much cheaper.

[󠀡𝒽𝒶𝓏𝑒 ✔]

Thanks for all the responses guys even though @ theo was being a bit of a elitist lol but yeah i am pretty much broke now , am running a mage so that sanctuary constant effect is helping a lot , only managed on two pieces of equipment though , an exquisite ring and exquisite robe giving me a total of 31 constant sanctuary effect

And don't hate me guys but i think skyrim actually did somethings better than morrowind , example removing the athletics skill which imo is a meme at this point , i hopped around everywhere in the game , improved AI cause even by 2002 standards the AI is rough in this game , better quest journal , the magicka regen introduction is good imo cause playing vanilla mage is annoying with all the waiting so had to install a mod where it regens according to will power level but other than that i am liking the overall experience more than skyrim simply cause vvardenfell as whole is just better , i don't even mind the slow speeds to be honest cause it makes me appreciate how weird the whole damn island is although hate the cliff racers with a passion now

and everytime this kicks in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THIm8T4YoSE

i get ptsd with that constant screeching

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Originally posted by 󠀡𝒽𝒶𝓏𝑒 ✔:

Thanks for all the responses guys even though @ theo was being a bit of a elitist lol but yeah i am pretty much broke now , am running a mage so that sanctuary constant effect is helping a lot , only managed on two pieces of equipment though , an exquisite ring and exquisite robe giving me a total of 31 constant sanctuary effect

And don't hate me guys but i think skyrim actually did somethings better than morrowind , example removing the athletics skill which imo is a meme at this point , i hopped around everywhere in the game , improved AI cause even by 2002 standards the AI is rough in this game , better quest journal , the magicka regen introduction is good imo cause playing vanilla mage is annoying with all the waiting so had to install a mod where it regens according to will power level but other than that i am liking the overall experience more than skyrim simply cause vvardenfell as whole is just better , i don't even mind the slow speeds to be honest cause it makes me appreciate how weird the whole damn island is although hate the cliff racers with a passion now

and everytime this kicks in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THIm8T4YoSE

i get ptsd with that constant screeching

no hard feelings.

just few minor details to consider... always put into consideration how things like,"skyrim actually did somethings better" translate through corporate digestive system. for example...

"removing the athletics skill" - players don't like to travel and explore, let's make them interact with the world through couriers (fallout 4) and randomly popping up messages (oblivion).
"i hopped around everywhere in the game" - let's make everything non interactive background and also make players walk in narrow paths (blades).
"improving ai" - no npc's - no ai - no problems (fallout 76).
"better quest journal" - if customers want iphone features in their immersive medieval fantasy, who are we to object?

morrowind is becoming older every year. it is natural progression of things. but are we truly becoming smarter?

[theo]

Originally posted by 󠀡𝒽𝒶𝓏𝑒 ✔:

And don't hate me guys but i think skyrim actually did somethings better than morrowind , example removing the athletics skill which imo is a meme at this point , i hopped around everywhere in the game , improved AI cause even by 2002 standards the AI is rough in this game , better quest journal , the magicka regen introduction is good imo cause playing vanilla mage is annoying with all the waiting so had to install a mod where it regens according to will power level but other than that i am liking the overall experience more than skyrim simply cause vvardenfell as whole is just better

Only point I can agree with is the AI, but I also think it doesn't matter that much.
Yeah I definitely prefer journal that looks like journal and contains my character's insight to something resembling an organizer phone app.
That is, I prefer design philosophy that puts immersion before balance and convenience. I guess it's a matter of taste but that's why some people love Morrowind and for some it's better for their sanity to stay away from it. So elitism may seem like someone just being an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ but I believe it's often rational

[Central]

Originally posted by 󠀡𝒽𝒶𝓏𝑒 ✔:

And don't hate me guys but i think skyrim actually did somethings better than morrowind , example removing the athletics skill which imo is a meme at this point , i hopped around everywhere in the game , improved AI cause even by 2002 standards the AI is rough in this game , better quest journal , the magicka regen introduction is good imo cause playing vanilla mage is annoying with all the waiting so had to install a mod where it regens according to will power level but other than that i am liking the overall experience more than skyrim simply cause vvardenfell as whole is just better , i don't even mind the slow speeds to be honest cause it makes me appreciate how weird the whole damn island is although hate the cliff racers with a passion now

The AI is one of the things i agree with completely, the magicka regen im not sure about, both systems have their fun sides, in morrowind landing your spells and choosing them wisely is much more important, the items which boost stats for magic are also much more important, they make me appreciate those items much more and make me think about which spells i use. In skyrim i dont have to worry about having a backup plan in case my magicka runs out, in skyrim my backup is to dodge the enemies attacks while my magicka regenerates
I completely disagree about the journal, the journal style of morrowind was a lot more immersive, i read those journal entries both for directions and for immersion.
Skyrim is an rpg, but a lot more focussed on the action part, the reason why morrowind has so many fans is because the lore was very immersive, the journal was part of that immersion (so was the fast travel network instead of the point and click fast travel of skyrim and oblivion but that is another matter entirely).

Also i hope you remember the dude in the boat when you arrived at Vvardenfell, his name is Jiub, he was a ghost in skyrim, you might want to read up on him on him ;)

[psychotron666]

Kill everyone at dren plantation and you got like 200k worth of loot right there alone.

There are some artifacts worth over 100k

[psychotron666]

Or you buy 5k worth of ash yam and bloat from the infinitely respawning stock from the imperial chapel guy in sadrith mora, steal the free master alchemy set from Caldera mages guild, and mix those into potions and drink them all at once to fortify your intelligence to 10k, and then you can enchant anything successfully yourself

[Susiama]

guys dont argue about videogames just play whatever you like skyrim morrowind oblivion they are all awesome games