The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind

The Elder Scrolls III: Morrowind

laagamer Jan 2, 2021 @ 11:11pm
Why am I getting 45 FPS in Balmora on max settings?
I downloaded Wryme thingy. I THINK I have optomizer and Project Atlas installed. I at least have the game 1980xwhatever and my settings save now.

But my FPS drops to freaking 40 in cities?! What gives?! I've got a 3.7GHZ Ryzen Quad-Core. 16GB of RAM, and a GTX1050.

This shouldn't be a problem. It even stutters down to 20-30 for brief moments!

It's really jarring and unbearable. Why doesn't this game run amazing like every other old game?
Last edited by laagamer; Jan 2, 2021 @ 11:34pm
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EMDream Jan 3, 2021 @ 8:59am 
You need to do a check of your video card, CPU, and ram while you are experiencing those low dips to find out what's eating at them.

The only way to really figure this out is to keep testing on different settings because something is overloading one or all of them to cause fps lag.

You have to test it's not really something anyone on here can help you with because no one else has your PC.
Last edited by EMDream; Jan 3, 2021 @ 9:01am
psychotron666 Jan 3, 2021 @ 9:14am 
The game was made where 30fps was max, and barely anyone got that back in the day because of how demanding the game is.

45 fps for this game is very good, considering video games never even saw that threshold when this game was out
Vespertine Jan 3, 2021 @ 10:37am 
Just the Morrowind engine. Your hardware isn't the issue.
laagamer Jan 3, 2021 @ 12:24pm 
Originally posted by psychotron666:
The game was made where 30fps was max, and barely anyone got that back in the day because of how demanding the game is.

45 fps for this game is very good, considering video games never even saw that threshold when this game was out

Wait, seriously?

Deus Ex and other older games run at 60 FPS just fine?
laagamer Jan 3, 2021 @ 12:25pm 
Originally posted by FUJIIDEW:
Just the Morrowind engine. Your hardware isn't the issue.

So when you all play it, you're all not at a consistent 60 FPS?
Vespertine Jan 3, 2021 @ 12:31pm 
Originally posted by laagamer:
Originally posted by FUJIIDEW:
Just the Morrowind engine. Your hardware isn't the issue.

So when you all play it, you're all not at a consistent 60 FPS?
Not on vanilla. I play with a TON of mods that help it out a lot but still, if there are many entities loaded in it will drop fps a lot. I can go from 120fps down to 45 and up to 70 in a few seconds. It seems incredibly random
laagamer Jan 3, 2021 @ 12:32pm 
Originally posted by FUJIIDEW:
Originally posted by laagamer:

So when you all play it, you're all not at a consistent 60 FPS?
Not on vanilla. I play with a TON of mods that help it out a lot but still, if there are many entities loaded in it will drop fps a lot. I can go from 120fps down to 45 and up to 70 in a few seconds. It seems incredibly random

What mods help it out, if you don't mind?
Vespertine Jan 3, 2021 @ 12:43pm 
Originally posted by laagamer:
Originally posted by FUJIIDEW:
Not on vanilla. I play with a TON of mods that help it out a lot but still, if there are many entities loaded in it will drop fps a lot. I can go from 120fps down to 45 and up to 70 in a few seconds. It seems incredibly random

What mods help it out, if you don't mind?
Open MW would be one of them. From what I understand it basically recreates Morrowind in a different, more stable engine. You should definitely check it out. Here is a video explaining it

https://youtu.be/g2PKBD0D9Gw

I also want to add that this is not a mod, it can be "vanilla" morrowind if you want it to be. But it can also be modded just like OG morrowind.
Last edited by Vespertine; Jan 3, 2021 @ 12:45pm
laagamer Jan 3, 2021 @ 2:26pm 
Originally posted by FUJIIDEW:
Originally posted by laagamer:

What mods help it out, if you don't mind?
Open MW would be one of them. From what I understand it basically recreates Morrowind in a different, more stable engine. You should definitely check it out. Here is a video explaining it

https://youtu.be/g2PKBD0D9Gw

I also want to add that this is not a mod, it can be "vanilla" morrowind if you want it to be. But it can also be modded just like OG morrowind.

I grabbed it. It gives me a FPS fluctuation between 70-120 FPS with graphics settings turned down all the way, but max view distance. If I turn on max graphics, I'm at a constant 30 FPS with drops down to 20.

Where as modded GOTY version seems to get me 60FPS with drops to 30-40 every few minutes or so, but fully graphics. Oddly, the removal of graphics in this version doesn't seem to effect FPS at all.

This game just runs like ass, I guess. Doesn't matter what version.

So, I'm sticking with my GOTY save that's 15 hours in and living with stuttering.
Last edited by laagamer; Jan 3, 2021 @ 2:27pm
Conkwer Jan 3, 2021 @ 8:47pm 
Originally posted by laagamer:
What mods help it out, if you don't mind?
Do you use MGE XE and MCP, right?
There are rumors, that this dll[github.com] make vanilla Morrowind incredibly fast.
(not compatible with MGE XE)

Originally posted by laagamer:
45 FPS in Balmora on max settings
Not bad at all, you don't have to complain.
Reduce the draw distance if wanted to have more. It's against the Morrowind lore anyways, to see the whole Vvardenfell at once. A bit of fog there should be and some of exploration. Look at the Xbox version how it should be



Last edited by Conkwer; Jan 3, 2021 @ 9:01pm
Nebgama Jan 5, 2021 @ 2:32am 
Balmora is one of the cities that has frame drop spent many hours trying to improve fps in bal
Veeshan Jan 5, 2021 @ 6:30am 
Originally posted by laagamer:
Originally posted by FUJIIDEW:
Open MW would be one of them. From what I understand it basically recreates Morrowind in a different, more stable engine. You should definitely check it out. Here is a video explaining it

https://youtu.be/g2PKBD0D9Gw

I also want to add that this is not a mod, it can be "vanilla" morrowind if you want it to be. But it can also be modded just like OG morrowind.

I grabbed it. It gives me a FPS fluctuation between 70-120 FPS with graphics settings turned down all the way, but max view distance. If I turn on max graphics, I'm at a constant 30 FPS with drops down to 20.

Where as modded GOTY version seems to get me 60FPS with drops to 30-40 every few minutes or so, but fully graphics. Oddly, the removal of graphics in this version doesn't seem to effect FPS at all.

This game just runs like ass, I guess. Doesn't matter what version.

So, I'm sticking with my GOTY save that's 15 hours in and living with stuttering.
This indicates the issue is with your machine. Open Morrowind is a complete rebuild of the graphical part of the engine, and so should run completely differently. If you see similar massive frame rate loss in both, maybe you should blow dust out of your video card.

Another clue is that I saw the same massive framerate dips on my laptop without a GPU. Your excellent machine is running like something is wrong.
Doctor3D Jan 5, 2021 @ 6:42am 
Just drop this wrapper into the main Morrowind folder (Same one as the executable)

https://github.com/crosire/d3d8to9/releases/tag/v1.11.0

For testing purposes - don't have any other mods or anything installed. Just plain Steam install. You should get well over 60 fps no matter where you are - even on a potato.
laagamer Jan 5, 2021 @ 9:31am 
Originally posted by doctor3d:
Just drop this wrapper into the main Morrowind folder (Same one as the executable)

https://github.com/crosire/d3d8to9/releases/tag/v1.11.0

For testing purposes - don't have any other mods or anything installed. Just plain Steam install. You should get well over 60 fps no matter where you are - even on a potato.

Can you personally attest to that? No offense, but I have no idea what that is.
Doctor3D Jan 5, 2021 @ 9:55am 
Originally posted by laagamer:
Originally posted by doctor3d:
Just drop this wrapper into the main Morrowind folder (Same one as the executable)

https://github.com/crosire/d3d8to9/releases/tag/v1.11.0

For testing purposes - don't have any other mods or anything installed. Just plain Steam install. You should get well over 60 fps no matter where you are - even on a potato.

Can you personally attest to that? No offense, but I have no idea what that is.

Well, it's what I always use. As far as worrying about exploits, it's open source & that's the official public release.

Can read about it on this link:
https://github.com/crosire/d3d8to9
Last edited by Doctor3D; Jan 5, 2021 @ 9:59am
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