Enchanting

[linkheroofthesky]

How do i get a soul inside a soul gem so i can enchant?

[Paulo]

I have questions about enchantment too.

I know that I have to learn the spells that have the effects I want to enchant. But does my skill level in that particular school influence the power of my enchantment? Like, do I need a high level in Destruction to enchant a good Fire Damage weapon? Or do I just need to learn the effect and have a high Enchanting skill?

Can I quicksave before enchanting and quickload until I succeed?

[JoshKillin]

If using an NPC to do your enchanting, you don't even need to level the enchanting skill (though it does help recharge your items faster). If you are enchanting yourself, yes you can save scum, but money is so easy to come by, you might as well just pay the NPC to do it for you. Late-game, there is nothing else to spend your money on anyways.

[Paulo]

What about the Destruction example? If I'm enchanting myself, do I have to also have high skill in the effect's school, or just Enchanting will suffice?

[ZarahNeander]

Originally posted by Paulo:

I have questions about enchantment too.

I know that I have to learn the spells that have the effects I want to enchant. But does my skill level in that particular school influence the power of my enchantment?

No, only your enchant skill. Higher enchant = cheaper charging costs. Around skill level 110 everything costs 1 charge

Edit: imagine an exquiste ring with 'Absorb health 175 for 1sec in 50ft'. You can cast it 3x/sec, have 400 charges. That's why alot of ppl think, enchant is the most broken skill in the game

[AlexTheSkjegg]

Originally posted by ZarahNeander:

Originally posted by Paulo:

I have questions about enchantment too.

I know that I have to learn the spells that have the effects I want to enchant. But does my skill level in that particular school influence the power of my enchantment?

No, only your enchant skill. Higher enchant = cheaper charging costs. Around skill level 110 everything costs 1 charge

Edit: imagine an exquiste ring with 'Absorb health 175 for 1sec in 50ft'. You can cast it 3x/sec, have 400 charges. That's why alot of ppl think, enchant is the most broken skill in the game

Another example would be an object that gives you 100 Jump and potentially 100 Acrobatics for 1 or 2 seconds. Couple this with 1 point constant effect slow fall and you have an "On-demand-catapult". Most broken? Yes. A lot of fun? Also yes.

[Paulo]

Since its so broken, is it possible to play the whole game without it? Is it viable for example to play the game with zero magic skills?

[Killertruth186]

Originally posted by muchdebate:

Originally posted by Killroy:

Also keep in mind, enchanting something on your own is nearly imposssible regardless of skill level. Best to use a NPC that offers this service.

I create my own "class", have enchanting as one of my main skills, add a mod that boosts my chances AND I save right before enchanting and do it as many times as it takes (or I have patience). I have also found if you don't max out the enchantment you have a higher chance of success (and more uses to the item).

Yeah, that does tends to happen.

[Killertruth186]

Originally posted by AlexTheSkjegg:

Originally posted by ZarahNeander:

No, only your enchant skill. Higher enchant = cheaper charging costs. Around skill level 110 everything costs 1 charge

Edit: imagine an exquiste ring with 'Absorb health 175 for 1sec in 50ft'. You can cast it 3x/sec, have 400 charges. That's why alot of ppl think, enchant is the most broken skill in the game

Another example would be an object that gives you 100 Jump and potentially 100 Acrobatics for 1 or 2 seconds. Couple this with 1 point constant effect slow fall and you have an "On-demand-catapult". Most broken? Yes. A lot of fun? Also yes.

That is true, and there's multiple of ways you can break the game mechanics on Morrowind vs Skyrim

[ZarahNeander]

Originally posted by Paulo:

Since its so broken, is it possible to play the whole game without it? Is it viable for example to play the game with zero magic skills?

Enchant is so broken due to

a) the machine gun effect. You need 2 sec to cast a spell. The 'cast' speed of enchants is only limited by your click speed. This can be fixed by MCP (aka Morrowind code patch)

b) the ability to create constant enchantments without trouble. The culprit here is Alchemy, I wont go into details..though it's well known. Either don't do it or use a balancing mod.

Apart from that, enchant is okay. Still powerfuil, but not game breaking OP

[Col Com Dante]

Originally posted by Paulo:

Since its so broken, is it possible to play the whole game without it? Is it viable for example to play the game with zero magic skills?

You can play the whole thing without enchating anything yourself, only finding items. Certain enchanted items are required to progress at certain points, but aside form very specific instances, you don't NEED to use any magic except for healing and the odd utility item (potions that fortify strength, water breathing, levitation etc)

[Smoking_Tiger]

Originally posted by linkheroofthesky:

How do i get a soul inside a soul gem so i can enchant?

>Get 2 golden saint summon scrolls
>Get a Soul Trap spell
>Get 2 grand soul gems
>Summon saint, cast soul trap, kill it
>Do that again
>Get an exquisite ring or something
>Get a good dagger
>Buy summon golden saint spell
>Put summon saint on the ring
>Put soul trap on the dagger
>Go get Azura's Star
>You can now have infinite golden saint souls for enchanting (which are essentially the best souls in the game)

To do this, you'll need some serious coin in your pocket to buy everything you need (you can cut down costs a bit if you're a thief and can steal some of this stuff), and you'll need to be a decent level since the Azura quest can be kinda tough to do without cheating. Completely worth it for enchanters, though.

[ZarahNeander]

Originally posted by SideWinder98:

.... and you'll need to be a decent level since the Azura quest can be kinda tough to do without cheating

You can do Azura at lvl1. Receipe:
-Create a char with restoration as main skill. Rest doesn't matter.
-Trigger the DB attack.
-Hop to Mournhold and buy a masterful <something> wisdom.
-Join Mage Guild in Balmora and create the following spells:
- Fortify Speech 100 pts on self for 1 sec.
- repeat for Mercantile/Armorer/Alchemy/Enchant
- create Fortify security 100 pts for 2 sec on self. Let you open 100pts locks with a journeyman lockpick
-start making money with restore fatigue
-buy a grandmaster alchemy set (optional), master will do
-hop to Sadrith Mora and buy ca. 80 ash yam/80 bloat. If you're there, snatch the cuirass from Tel Fyr.
-buy 5 vampire dust, 5 shalk resin, 5 fire pedals
-enter alchemy loop (create fortify int, quaff, create better fortify int), till your int is >10k
-create a potion with ash yam/fire pedals/vampire dust/shalk resin. Result is a potion with fortify strength > 1k, spell absorb >100, fortify health >1k
-go kill Staada. With 1k strength, weapon or skill doesn't matter. If she doesnt drop a good shield (ebony or better), rob the redoran vault.

If anyone feels inclined to tell me, that this is gamey and game breaking: yes, I know xD

[Killertruth186]

Originally posted by ZarahNeander:

Originally posted by SideWinder98:

.... and you'll need to be a decent level since the Azura quest can be kinda tough to do without cheating

You can do Azura at lvl1. Receipe:
-Create a char with restoration as main skill. Rest doesn't matter.
-Trigger the DB attack.
-Hop to Mournhold and buy a masterful <something> wisdom.
-Join Mage Guild in Balmora and create the following spells:
- Fortify Speech 100 pts on self for 1 sec.
- repeat for Mercantile/Armorer/Alchemy/Enchant
- create Fortify security 100 pts for 2 sec on self. Let you open 100pts locks with a journeyman lockpick
-start making money with restore fatigue
-buy a grandmaster alchemy set (optional), master will do
-hop to Sadrith Mora and buy ca. 80 ash yam/80 bloat. If you're there, snatch the cuirass from Tel Fyr.
-buy 5 vampire dust, 5 shalk resin, 5 fire pedals
-enter alchemy loop (create fortify int, quaff, create better fortify int), till your int is >10k
-create a potion with ash yam/fire pedals/vampire dust/shalk resin. Result is a potion with fortify strength > 1k, spell absorb >100, fortify health >1k
-go kill Staada. With 1k strength, weapon or skill doesn't matter. If she doesnt drop a good shield (ebony or better), rob the redoran vault.

If anyone feels inclined to tell me, that this is gamey and game breaking: yes, I know xD

You could do that, or you could just hoard some stuff from the begining of the items at the start of the room ( the area next to where you would create your character). Then go sell the stuff, then make your way west of the road until you see a bosmer falling to his death. Loot him, then go south west until you find the body and loot him as well. then go to a shack that is named (Foryn Glinith) and confront him about the murder of Procceselious ( i know that i had spelled his name wrong) and kill him in self defence. And collect the bounty, then go to Balmora and go buy as much throwing knives as much you could carry. And go to the daedric shrine near Kuul, wipe out the NPCs in the area and kill every NPC inside it. Once you go into the underground shrine, there will be a Daedra worshiper wearing full ebony armor (except the closed helmet) and a daedric war axe. You can kill him with the remaining of the throwing knives, because he will never reach you to one hit you (because of the design that prevents a direct walking path) including his greater bone walker (minus the one hit part).

[selewi]

Originally posted by Killroy:

Also keep in mind, enchanting something on your own is nearly imposssible regardless of skill level. Best to use a NPC that offers this service.

This is kinda wrong. I've done an enchanter playthrough and it went quite well, I could enchant my own OP stuff without problem as soon as I reached 95~ base enchantment (And some enchanted stuff on me that buffed that stat a little), but I think around 45-50~ you can enchant some medium "on cast" items and low-tier "constant effect" items.

[Killertruth186]

Originally posted by selewi:

Originally posted by Killroy:

Also keep in mind, enchanting something on your own is nearly imposssible regardless of skill level. Best to use a NPC that offers this service.

This is kinda wrong. I've done an enchanter playthrough and it went quite well, I could enchant my own OP stuff without problem as soon as I reached 95~ base enchantment (And some enchanted stuff on me that buffed that stat a little), but I think around 45-50~ you can enchant some medium "on cast" items and low-tier "constant effect" items.

Which it is much more than what you can do in Oblivion and Skyrim.