This is actually the worst TES game...

[Road to A+]

For anyone wondering if you should buy this game or not because of the positive reviews, you can pass this one.

After playing through the whole anthology in order I came to the shocking conclusion that Morrowind was the worst TES game, even more so than Arena which is the most bare bone game of the lot.

Combat system is easily the worst of the series by a long shot, I dont think this even needs to be argued, every other TES game offered a more engaging experience.

Main quest is also the worst of the series, it is actually the only TES game where you are thrown into a world without any relevant directions or goals. You must find a certain guy but really dont have any motivation to do so aside from having nothing else to do.

The quest design is extremely dull and generic. Its on the same level as Arena and Daggerfall but its worse due to the fact that its supposedly hand crafted rather than randomly generated. Its a majority of boring fedex quests and errands. Even the NPCs call them errands. They send you to retrieve ancient artifacts across the street and tell you the exact location. The lack of quest marker does not add any value to the experience.

Dialogue is awful and dumbed down. When asking NPCs for a 'little secret', they respond by telling you that you are allowed to defend yourself in the case where you get attacked first....

Level design is poor overall. Dungeons are copy pasted and said to be hand crafted. Towns feel empty with static NPCs standing there day and night.

Overall this game felt like a massive dumbing down from Daggerfall and was seen as such even 15 years ago by the true cRPG fans.

All of you edgy fanboys can stop bashing Oblivion and Skyrim to praise Morronwind because that game is pure garbage. It truely is the game that marked the decline of the series.

edit: Daggerfall > Oblivion > >Skyrim > Arena > Morronwind

edit 2: Total comments progress 425/16000

edit 3: Meme contest is now open. I'll wire 20$ to the one who creates the best meme with top line: Ranks Morrowind the best TES game // Bottom line: Hasn't played Arena or Daggerfall. Contest up until July 1st 12:00:00 PST.

[BorealPaella]

After you get a little further into the main story is actually great.That's the only good thing the game does though.I gave up after like 16 hours just because there's nothing else going for it.

There are too few caves/temples/etc to explore and they all are really well hidden for whatever reason.After 5 hours into the game the random encounters in the wild are just too easy to keep the game fun so for 80% of the time you just have to walk from point A to point B in the main story to get to the fun part.It would've been tolerable but as you walk so slowly it's just boring.All the side quests I've done so far are boring and simple.I don't understand the people who say this game has one of the best quests in the series.I understand starting from the bottom and working your way up in factions for instance but that's not an excuse to make boring quests.

I absolutely loved Oblivion and Skyrim and I really hate that Morrowind couldn't hold my interest.The game also has a ton of problems on Windows 10(At least for me)so I had to play vanilla Morrowind without any fixes just to be able to play the game.This is one of those games that only aged well if you're nostalgic towards it.

[el pinga diablo]

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Yeah cause it's clunky as ♥♥♥♥!

Mouse swiping aside the controls in Arena/DF are the exact same as the later TES games. You can switch to mouse look.

Character movement and actions are actually faster and more responsive than Morrowind which is definitely the clunkiest of the lot.

arena and daggerfall are definetley clunky idgaf

[Daniel]

I'm pretty sure this guy played the game for 1 hour and then said "WORST TES GAME EVER"

[el pinga diablo]

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I'm pretty sure this guy played the game for 1 hour and then said "WORST TES GAME EVER"

lmao there not the worst ever but they are not the best ever however i do appreciate them for pioneering the TES series bu thats it there clunky

[737]

Arena is definitely worse than Morrowind.

[Road to A+]

Opprinnelig skrevet av 737:

Arena is definitely worse than Morrowind.

It has better combat, better dungeons, a better story, better writing.

[ZapataPrimer]

This game is crap, they dont even let you use controller, and they didnt even bother to make and update for it.... it worked for it on the original xbox, how hard could it be to port it. Such a shame

[ꑭCaliph of Hyperboreaꑭ]

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Opprinnelig skrevet av 737:

Arena is definitely worse than Morrowind.

It has better combat, better dungeons, a better story, better writing.

Haha yeah! Arena was a great game!
24 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ years ago

[el pinga diablo]

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It has better combat, better dungeons, a better story, better writing.

Haha yeah! Arena was a great game!
24 ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ years ago

arena was ♥♥♥♥ srry

[pw1108]

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Arena is definitely worse than Morrowind.

It has better combat, better dungeons, a better story, better writing.

No, it isn't. The Arena is not even 3D, it's more like 2.5D.
of course dungeon is better than maybe 3 and far much better than 4 and 5 but I can't say it's good dungeon. it's weaker than FPS'. it is better than 5 for sure because dungeons of 5 are just a line. but compare with 3, while many dungeons are too simple, there are some decent dungeons that require flying, swimming and other 3D ways unlike Arena which is 2.5D.

combat of TES always bad and Arena doesn't have that good combat.
and for story... eh.. I never heard of the brotherhood of Baal except for the Arena.

and you said dungeon of Morrowind is copy pasted. but both Arena and Daggerfall have more copy pasted dungeons. didn't they? that was the trick how they add tons of dungeon. reusing patterns of dungeon to create random dungeons. and most parts of the dungeons of Daggerfall are just a small tomb as I remember. it's like 70% of small tombs, 20% of randomly generated dungeons and 10% of handmade dungeon. Daggerfall still has more handmade and larger dungeon than any other TES even with 10% though. and 20% of randomly generated dungeons are still great.

and same as Daggerfall, you can use flying in the dungeon plus you can dive unlike Daggerfall. No dive in Arena.

it is your opinion so I don't have to disagree but I just say some of what you said is wrong.
especially Arena and about copy pasted dungeons.

Arena is like King's field 1. It have little value to play and both of them are dumbed downed from Ultima underworld.


I can agree that Morrowind is dumbed down from Daggerfall for some aspect, but I can say the direction of TES changed between Daggerfall and after Daggerfall.

Daggerfall was about real sandbox.
Simulated world that is alive, huge world that is generated randomly, random quest and dates.
and also, Daggerfall has a decent non linear plot.

but after Daggerfall, TES is no longer about real sandbox. they are about a world that is already created.
no simulated world that is alive. no special date no kingdoms that requires your choice.
It's totally different direction.

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Opprinnelig skrevet av 737:

Arena is definitely worse than Morrowind.

It has better combat, better dungeons, a better story, better writing.

lmao arenas combat is ♥♥♥♥ (so is morrowinds but less ♥♥♥♥), dungeons in arena are random so its better the story is not better and the writing is ♥♥♥♥ the mechanics are ♥♥♥♥ the movment is ♥♥♥♥ arena is pretty much ♥♥♥♥ just play daggerfall if you want to play a retro tes game

[deuceyd]

Don't feed this guy lol

[The Toot Owl]

This is the best game I have ever played. I adore it and will keep playing it forever.

[Road to A+]

The story in Arena is better for the simple fact that it offers a proper introduction. Morrowind's story is technically badly written and would not make a good book/movie without serious modifications to the content.

Combat in Arena is better, not by a lot, but still better. It requires more input and reflexes than Morrowind.

Morrowind has 'hand crafted' content but it isnt well crafted enough to beat the random dungeons.

The writing in Arena is objectively better than Morrowind just because it doesnt have immersion breaking lines or 4th wall breaking stuff.

[pw1108]

That's just your opinion, isn't it?

In short, Arena is bad as King's field 1.
it's just cheap copy of Ultima underworld.
nothing better than that and leveling is worse than sequels.

and I already said there aren't enough physical requirement in Arena.
it's 2.5D and dungeons are not as good as real dungeon games like Arx fatalis. it's just quantity over quality. at least I enjoy explore main plot dungeons in Morrowind but not in Arena.



and for Morrowind, It is the game part to find out what is wrong with the world and what should I do. it is the basic part of RPG.

with your logic, Ultima 4, which is grea RPG also have bad story since goal is not certain when you start the game. actually, finding out what to do is the main part.

and your logic also tells that Daggerfall's story is also bad.
because you start with ambiguous goal not certain goal in Daggerfall.
Emperor didn't say anything about Underking. didn't he?

and if you want combat with more reflex requirement, don't play RPG.
I never saw any good RPG with decent reflex requirement though I played a lot of RPGs with open world and with actions.
you better play action games like Darksoul.