Vampire Discussion (Mods and Vanilla)

[Rithm Fluffderg]

Eh, just thought I'd get some more discussion for this going since it tends to be a rather underutilized part of the game - after all, vampirism effectively shuts off 90% of the game in vanilla.

Which is why I like Vampire Embrace. It allows you to convince mortals you're an alright person so they start reacting to you normally - which allows you to do things like actually advance through the Telvanni questline past a certain point.

And it makes you work for it, too - you gotta charm those mortals with gold or honeyed words in order to get them to accept you.

And of course, my favorite part of vampirism, you get to make others into vampires, too. Which is always fun.

I picked Aundae's bloodline as a Dunmer, for the record. I find it odd how Berne's bloodline is the one that gives you an extra bonus to Hand to Hand, but Clan Quarra is the only faction in the entire freaking game that actually values Hand to Hand as a favored skill. Seems weird.

Anyways, I'm just beginning my experiences with vampires. I'm actually thinking about having a spin-off journal for Matthias where, in an alternate timeline, he ends up succumbing to Poryphiric Hemophilia and ends up joining Clan Berne AND House Telvanni. But then I still need to update his current journal, and I'm still gathering up my creativity for THAT.

So tell me about your experiences with vampirism in this game.

[Pig Boy]

I vaguely remember going through a vampire phase in morrowind years ago. Used the vampiric embrace mod, of course, and flew my imperial dandy around in bat form at night to visit his coven in the nearby stronghold that he had appropriated for the purpose of gathering all my vamp followers and cattle. And singing at nights at the eight plates.

I forget the name of the stronghold, it's the one directly west of Balmora.

Anyways, was a good time. Not sure if I used vampire realism in addition to embrace to give me the power to turn into a bat. But vampiric embrace is the best vampire mod I've ever seen in an rpg, really gives you the feel of being a vampire. Not even Dawnguard for Skyrim could come close to accomplishing what Embrace did.

[Rithm Fluffderg]

Indeed - Vampire Embrace is an amazing mod for Morrowind. I almost didn't use Vampire Realism, though, until I learned that you can toggle the features you don't like off.

For Skyrim, Better Vampires is an amazing mod that allows you to finely tune your vampire experience to what you want it to be - which means that if being a vampire to you means "You go from full to starving in one day flat, and everyone hates you when you're starving", you can do that. It also allows you to create a legion of loyal vampires that will not only go about their daily lives, but also follow you around. It does for Skyrim what Vampire Embrace + Realism do for Morrowind, IMHO.

There's also a mod for Skyrim that makes vampiric NPCs hunt down fresh blood when they're hungry, which was designed with mods that let you turn others in mind.

If I had to rank it...

Modded Skyrim Vampires >= Modded Morrowind Vampires > Vanilla Skyrim Vampires > Vanilla Morrowind Vampires > Vanilla Oblivion Vampires

(Despite vanilla Skyrim and Oblivion vamps being very similar and backwards, Vanilla Skyrim at least has Dawnguard going for it. And Morrowind vampires at least have a unique questline that isn't "cure vampirism". Oblivion is basically just a backwards vampire with nothing more to it.)

(Also modded Oblivion isn't in the list because I haven't quite found the Oblivion vampire mod I want to use. But that's not a discussion for this forum.)

[Pig Boy]

Right, I almost forgot about the skyrim mods. I played a ton of that game before I wore it out, so I can't really complain. There've been a few mods for Skyrim, but none of them have been definitive like VE was for Morrowind. Except perhaps the latest big mod, Sacrosanct. I'm probably just jealous my computer can't run it with my favorite mods installed for a length of time before my saves start crashing. Morrowind is more forgiving to my potato system, especially with autosave off.

Anyways, I just find the whole chosen one trope (Dovahkiin) to be something I've no interest in. In Morrowind you're called Nerevarine, but it's always in question whether you're legit. Even after a daedric prince acknowledges your status, is she just doing that to employ you as a champion, and is it a ruse/vision/deception such as those Azura is known for? So for that reason, I enjoy replaying Morrowind far more than I do Skyrim, because it seems less like you're playing the same exact character or story everytime.

Given the quality of skyrim vampire mods I know of, I'm reluctantly inclined to agree with your list. Although I put Morrowind in general above Skyrim, I can't deny the ingenuity of Skyrim modders.

Oblivion is so buggy, if you thought pcs/npcs could be ugly, just wait until one of them turns into a vamp. There's a fix for that, but damned if you can't unsee that wrinkly potato face.

[Rithm Fluffderg]

I actually don't mind being a chosen one, but I don't mind NOT being a chosen one either.

I actually like Oblivion's potato-faced inhabitants. They're so charming and wacky looking.

I just find it interesting that my dunmer vampire in Morrowind spontaneously started wearing lipstick when I turned. Apparently, being a vampire makes you turn into a glam rocker.

I do like that Dragonborn threw a wrench into the prophecy by making it so that, hey, you're not the only Dovahkiin out there, and the other one is a right evil bastard. And of course, you can be a right evil bastard, too, yourself.

Of course, it's less that being Dovahkiin is being the "chosen one" and more like it's what you are. You're not handpicked by the gods to be the Dovahkiin, you're simply the right Dovahkiin in the right place at the most needed time.

In that sense, being the Nerevarine is a little more like being the chosen one (since there can only BE one Nerevarine, and Azura picked YOU), except that you've got a whole religious organization bent on denying your existence. (An organization you can actually join and be the leader of by the time this happens, too! One of the things I will give Morrowind due praise for.)

Where in Skyrim, you've got simultaneously too many people and not enough people prostrating before your magnifence, Oh Dragonborn.

So it's a mixed bag.

[Admiral Dinosaur]

Originally posted by Space Wizard Zach:

I actually don't mind being a chosen one, but I don't mind NOT being a chosen one either.

I actually like Oblivion's potato-faced inhabitants. They're so charming and wacky looking.

I just find it interesting that my dunmer vampire in Morrowind spontaneously started wearing lipstick when I turned. Apparently, being a vampire makes you turn into a glam rocker.

I do like that Dragonborn threw a wrench into the prophecy by making it so that, hey, you're not the only Dovahkiin out there, and the other one is a right evil bastard. And of course, you can be a right evil bastard, too, yourself.

Of course, it's less that being Dovahkiin is being the "chosen one" and more like it's what you are. You're not handpicked by the gods to be the Dovahkiin, you're simply the right Dovahkiin in the right place at the most needed time.

In that sense, being the Nerevarine is a little more like being the chosen one (since there can only BE one Nerevarine, and Azura picked YOU), except that you've got a whole religious organization bent on denying your existence. (An organization you can actually join and be the leader of by the time this happens, too! One of the things I will give Morrowind due praise for.)

Where in Skyrim, you've got simultaneously too many people and not enough people prostrating before your magnifence, Oh Dragonborn.

So it's a mixed bag.

Im with you really

[Pig Boy]

Don't wanna turn this topic into a Morrowind vs. Skyrim debate, although I did fall off the rails in my previous comment. Suffice to say, both games are great and I played the hell out of both of them. Oblivion too, and Daggerfall.

Anyway... yeah. Vampires in video games are better with mods. Has anyone tried Sacrosanct for Skyrim?

It's been so long since I played a vamp in Morrowind, maybe it's time I installed Vampire Embrace again and gave it a go.

[Rithm Fluffderg]

Okay, having a problem with Vampire Realism II.

namely in that, no matter how much I feed, I keep gradually starving to death.

Also I'm not sure the vampire level up timer is working correctly, but I feel like I've definitely played more than 4 hours of real time gameplay, but I don't know if I've "leveled up" as a vampire or not.

The only thing I can think of is that I intentionally left the game running for about an hour while cooking supper to try to "level up" my vampirism. But I've been feeding steadily ever since I got back. It's just... not enough.

I know I can simply turn the feature off, and at this rate, I may have to, if only temporary.

But it's odd how this is happening. It's like... really bad script lag? Or something?

Mod list for reference:

Morrowind.esm
Tribunal.esm
Bloodmoon.esm
Texture Fix - Bloodmoon 1.1.esm
Morrowind Patch 1.6.5 Beta (BTB Edit).esm
Texture Fix 2.0.esm
Poorly Placed Object Fix 1.2.esm
Beasts of Burden Necromancer.esp
SirLuthor-Tools.esp
Better Bodies.esp
Unique Banners and Signs.esp
Barabus' fireplaces 2.esp
Scripted_Spells.esp
Key Replacer Trib & BM.esp
JEB_muffin_fix.esp
More Summoning.esp
Necromancers Robe.esp
Vampire_Embrace.esp
Vampire Realism II.esp
Vampire Realism II - TB Add-On.esp
Vampire Realism II - BM Add-On.esp
Vampire Realism II - VE Patch.esp
Animated_Morrowind - merged.esp
Windows Glow.esp
Windows Glow - Tribunal Eng.esp
Fair Magicka Regen 2.0b.esp
Windows Glow - Bloodmoon Eng.esp
Windows Glow - Raven Rock Eng.esp
WA_Signy_Signposts(!).ESP
Better Clothes_v1.1.esp
Better Skulls.ESP
Particle Arrow Replacer.esp
Psy_VGR_Armour.esp
MA_snowprincetomb_v3.esp
abotWindowsGlow.esp
Statue Replacer - Normal.esp
bones.esp
Shieldfx.esp
ExcellentMagicSounds.esp
Book Jackets - Morrowind.esp
Book Jackets - Tribunal.esp
Book Jackets - Bloodmoon.esp
NewBlood_MwTbBm1.1.esp
Neo's Unique Creatures.esp
BetterClothesForTB.esp
AtmosphericSoundEffects-3.0-Tribunal.esp
correctUV Ore Replacer 1.0.esp
More Better Clothes.ESP
New Voices.esp
Sleepers, Awake!.esp
Bloated Caves.esp
LeftGloves_Addon_v2.esp
almalexia armor.esp
TLM - Complete.esp
New Bodies - Clean.esp
Psy_UniqueDremora_T.esp
Golden Gold.esp
OTR_Coast_Variety.esp
Better_Sounds.esp
guarskin_drum_replacer.esp
UniqueFinery.esp
Unique Jewelry and Accessories.esp
SpeechcraftBalance.ESP
Clean MCFC_1.0.esp
imperial chain fix.esp
-speedbeltmod 1.1.ESP
Graphic Herbalism.esp
UF_HortRobeF001.esp
Female Armor - Complete.esp
Better Weapons and Armors.esp
STA_guides_replacer.esp
A Bard's Life.esp

[RevanEl1863]

Is there a mod for giving other people vampirism for Morrowind?

[Salander]

Originally posted by pinballshawn:

Is there a mod for giving other people vampirism for Morrowind?

"Vampire Embrace" over Moddrop. It adds a lot of new options, not only the turning thing.
Although I didn't tried myself, only searched it after reading this post (the OP mentions it).

[SpiritTauren]

Originally posted by Rithm Fluffderg:

So tell me about your experiences with vampirism in this game.

Master Necropost... mancer here.
Well, all good now. I've just finished working on my vampire mod (QCVL on nexusmods, here's the link https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/49486). Creating 50 quests was quite exhausting. Gonna finally relax and play the game now. I can't wait to see OperatorJack's "Vampyr" mod ready. It's gonna be vastly superior to anything gameplay-wise (including my own mod(s)). I'm not advertising for the sake of glorifying myself or other modmakers. I simply want players to be able to finally get some quests and quality gameplay as vampire characters, something that I desperately wanted back then, when I was a kid discovering the game. Cheers. Merry X-mas everybody.

[Rithm Fluffderg]

Originally posted by SpiritTauren:

Originally posted by Rithm Fluffderg:

So tell me about your experiences with vampirism in this game.

Master Necropost... mancer here.
Well, all good now. I've just finished working on my vampire mod (QCVL on nexusmods, here's the link https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/49486). Creating 50 quests was quite exhausting. Gonna finally relax and play the game now. I can't wait to see OperatorJack's "Vampyr" mod ready. It's gonna be vastly superior to anything gameplay-wise (including my own mod(s)). I'm not advertising for the sake of glorifying myself or other modmakers. I simply want players to be able to finally get some quests and quality gameplay as vampire characters, something that I desperately wanted back then, when I was a kid discovering the game. Cheers. Merry X-mas everybody.

You are doing good work for us gamers, thank you very much.

You have a happy yule, yourself!

[SpiritTauren]

Originally posted by Rithm Fluffderg:

You are doing good work for us gamers, thank you very much.

You have a happy yule, yourself!

Hey, just to let you know: I'm still working on this project, and it's 80+ quests now, been busy lately. I'm taking a spring/summer break, then would continue again. And yes, I love necroposting. Time is not of the essence.

[krzychadam4]

Originally posted by SpiritTauren:

Originally posted by Rithm Fluffderg:

You are doing good work for us gamers, thank you very much.

You have a happy yule, yourself!

Hey, just to let you know: I'm still working on this project, and it's 80+ quests now, been busy lately. I'm taking a spring/summer break, then would continue again. And yes, I love necroposting. Time is not of the essence.

Seems like the nexus link is dead, would you care to reupload it or provide an alternative?

EDIT: nevemind, my bad - I just noticed that the link in your previous post is broken (has a closing parentheses at the end) - I found it through a google search.