About Helen and Mary. (spoiler alert)

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I have a small question, Can you choose to either pick Helen or Mary at the end of the Pirate Saga quest after doing the things necessary to romance them both like in To Each His Own or do I have to decide which sequence of events should I do to romance one of them from the start? also I heard Helen has some extra content, Do I need the Black Mark DLC for that or is it added in the base game?

[Xenon]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย echoes222:

Mary was written long time ago and it shows. She's basically how teenage boys would imagine "nympho" wich has nothing to do with actual condition. She has no personality outside "wanna bang?" and is very poorly written, like some fanfic. Helen on the other hand, is not appealing to me. Don't really like her romantically, would prefer her to be a companion, but if you reject her, she dissapears. So, out of the two, I chose Mary hoping that some proper writer will take care of her dialogues and add some content. And enough with this "always horny male fantasy trope". Please.

Says you. Many of us love that about her.

[echoes222]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย Xenon:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย echoes222:

Mary was written long time ago and it shows. She's basically how teenage boys would imagine "nympho" wich has nothing to do with actual condition. She has no personality outside "wanna bang?" and is very poorly written, like some fanfic. Helen on the other hand, is not appealing to me. Don't really like her romantically, would prefer her to be a companion, but if you reject her, she dissapears. So, out of the two, I chose Mary hoping that some proper writer will take care of her dialogues and add some content. And enough with this "always horny male fantasy trope". Please.

Says you. Many of us love that about her.

of course some of you do love "wanna bang" and a personality void. She is basically walking sex toy. Says lot about dudes that "love that about her". Anyway, hope that some proper writer will write an actual human being ;)

[CloudKira]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย echoes222:

Mary was written long time ago and it shows. She's basically how teenage boys would imagine "nympho" wich has nothing to do with actual condition. She has no personality outside "wanna bang?" and is very poorly written, like some fanfic. Helen on the other hand, is not appealing to me. Don't really like her romantically, would prefer her to be a companion, but if you reject her, she dissapears. So, out of the two, I chose Mary hoping that some proper writer will take care of her dialogues and add some content. And enough with this "always horny male fantasy trope". Please.

But Charles is easily as horny as Mary (he even seduces married women) and no one here looks down upon him because of that.

So why a guy can be super horny but a woman cannot?

[echoes222]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย CloudKira:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย echoes222:

Mary was written long time ago and it shows. She's basically how teenage boys would imagine "nympho" wich has nothing to do with actual condition. She has no personality outside "wanna bang?" and is very poorly written, like some fanfic. Helen on the other hand, is not appealing to me. Don't really like her romantically, would prefer her to be a companion, but if you reject her, she dissapears. So, out of the two, I chose Mary hoping that some proper writer will take care of her dialogues and add some content. And enough with this "always horny male fantasy trope". Please.

But Charles is easily as horny as Mary (he even seduces married women) and no one here looks down upon him because of that.

So why a guy can be super horny but a woman cannot?

it's not a "gotcha" moment you think, mate. The issue here is that Mary's whole personality is banging, which is just teenage boys imagine "nymphos". She's badly written, period. Wanna talk about Charles's writing? Sure. Maybe in another thread.

[Streifer]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย StormRangerX:

You can pick Mary as long as you reject Helen at the end, though you have to do a lot to romance Helen and it's very easy to mess up.

i never have a chance to pick i always end up with Mary.

[CloudKira]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย echoes222:

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย CloudKira:

But Charles is easily as horny as Mary (he even seduces married women) and no one here looks down upon him because of that.

So why a guy can be super horny but a woman cannot?

it's not a "gotcha" moment you think, mate. The issue here is that Mary's whole personality is banging, which is just teenage boys imagine "nymphos". She's badly written, period. Wanna talk about Charles's writing? Sure. Maybe in another thread.

She only starts talking about banging by the end of the Pirate Saga storyline and only if Charles isn't still romancing Helen.

She got plenty of conversations before that sans banging.

And that she is eager for sex with a guy she is in love with...whats the problem with that?

You are making her look like as if she was a prostitute suffering from nymphomania who jumps at everyone on the street.

[echoes222]

it's not the case. Her whole personality is banging her "white knight in shining armour". That's it. that's Marry. That's why people like her. Because "banging". If you exclude quick add-on when she is kidnapped in one of the late quests, she is there only to bang. Also you bang her pretty quickly in pirate saga and can bang her all the time you spend her. If Helen was more into "banging", she'd more popular too. She's horribly written. Period. You guys need to grow up.

[Xenon]

โพสต์ดั้งเดิมโดย echoes222:

it's not the case. Her whole personality is banging her "white knight in shining armour". That's it. that's Marry. That's why people like her. Because "banging". If you exclude quick add-on when she is kidnapped in one of the late quests, she is there only to bang. Also you bang her pretty quickly in pirate saga and can bang her all the time you spend her. If Helen was more into "banging", she'd more popular too. She's horribly written. Period. You guys need to grow up.

Nah, there are other things we like about her - he kickass boots, her stylish red coat, her funny manner of speech, her inhumane strength and ability to tank 4 opponents at once, her hate of pompousness, lies and cruelty, and of course her explosiveness.

Not that I disagree with the claim that she needs more development - she does. And she is going to get that in her own quest, which is coming up with the patch 1.5.