Seems to be the same game since twenty years

[Enapoete]

The title is catchy, but it's not trolling.

Hello,

I take the point of view of a new player.

Are you going to be stuck between thirty or forty year olds nostalgic for old games?

I have already bought almost all the Sea Dogs and Age Of pirates, as a consumer, I just allow myself this idea:

Why offer the same engine again and again, with the same loading times and simply features that were once the community did for free with the different Builds?

Let me be clear, I am not criticizing the quality of the game or the involvement of the developers. If the studio wants to make money to develop new games with new bases, I just think this is not the right way to do it. Even less make yourself known. Since the first Age Of Pirates, I have not heard one of your games mentioned by other players, you are a niche that is not growing.

What I criticize in short is that the game resembles the previous ones in every way, that an unenlightened consumer will not be able to tell the difference with the different opuses and will simply wonder if it is not still these generic games that all look the same.

Your games took me across the Caribbean when I was a kid, I respect and admire you for that, do not take this message as condescension, I am simply questioning your strategy, while being aware of the cost of developing a video game.

I'm even sadder that all the pirate game projects on Steam are mainly scams, I no longer have hope in this regard.

Love and respect,

[Joruba]

It's an old engine, that's true.
But we updated it - the graphics, the UI, the hundreds of little features - anything we were able to make it fit the year of 2024. And there's more to come.

The simple truth is this, and you said it yourself, - there is simply no alternative, there are no games like that. Because it is a unique and a very expensive (production wise) genre.

Now, we plan to move to UE at some point in the future, but we need to make this last push with Storm engine to get there.

You will have a chance to decide for yourself, but as the series veteran myself and, as I a hardcore gamer, my impression is that this game feels and looks like a new one, and offers a fresh experience.

[Eickes]

Is it just me or do you also think that the graphics look very antiquated?
Especially here in this picture with the guy carrying the sack

https://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/2230980/ss_f48048a0ed45ae83ca08dbbbf7715d6ec0259990.jpg?t=1705936849

[knaveofengland]

iam just downloading the demo even before playing the game. as a older gamer i rather have great gameplay and not flashy graphics as they hurt the eyes

[SEKTENGURU]

Is this maybe a Nvidia RTX Remix Project?

[Rammstein]

Publicado originalmente por Eickes:

Is it just me or do you also think that the graphics look very antiquated?
Especially here in this picture with the guy carrying the sack

https://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steam/apps/2230980/ss_f48048a0ed45ae83ca08dbbbf7715d6ec0259990.jpg?t=1705936849

Im not a graphics junky, but i really cant tell if these graphics or gothic 3s graphics are better.
I dont mind it, and will still buy it if its any good.

[OldPayphone]

Seriously, this demo is awful. Game looks like it's from 2002. The movement is awful and clunky. UI is atrocious to look at. No tutorial. A serious waste of time.

[Sam]

Yeah I can't really say there's a big graphics improvement, it looks really similar to the older one. I understand there are limitations, but this whole "improved graphics" thing is not that noticeable to me.

[José King Do Caralho]

Publicado originalmente por tacticalPCgamer:

Publicado originalmente por Joruba:

The simple truth is this, and you said it yourself, - there is simply no alternative, there are no games like that. Because it is a unique and a very expensive (production wise) genre.

This is simply not true. Corsairs Legacy is the same genre made from people who also made old Sea Dogs games before. They are already using the Unreal Engine with much better graphics, reliable performance, similar gameplay and locations. But it is important to know that it is an Early Access Game at the moment and therefore not complete now! Only like a demo somehow but the price is more than fair because of that. This will of course change in the following month:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1594880/Corsairs_Legacy__Pirate_Action_RPG__Sea_Battles/
To answer Enapoete´s question: Caribbean Legend is also using the same locations like SD:TEHO and Age of Pirates before but every BlackMark release has a different story with new challenges. So it is worth to play it if gameplay and fun is more important to you than the newest graphics. I mean the graphics are not bad, they are just not uptodate.

Too bad the game is terrible, you see, it's the oposite of this one, good graphics, terrible story and it's linear, not open world.

The movements, combat are basically the same, just the textures are improved. I had it for a while on wishlist, but when I played the demo, I removed it instantly, there's no passion it seems, just a copy past with better graphics and without the open world, I mean just take a look at the reviews of people that bought it.

[Destroy]

Publicado originalmente por tacticalPCgamer:

Publicado originalmente por Joruba:

The simple truth is this, and you said it yourself, - there is simply no alternative, there are no games like that. Because it is a unique and a very expensive (production wise) genre.

This is simply not true. Corsairs Legacy is the same genre made from people who also made old Sea Dogs games before. They are already using the Unreal Engine with much better graphics, reliable performance, similar gameplay and locations. But it is important to know that it is an Early Access Game at the moment and therefore not complete now! Only like a demo somehow but the price is more than fair because of that. This will of course change in the following month:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1594880/Corsairs_Legacy__Pirate_Action_RPG__Sea_Battles/
To answer Enapoete´s question: Caribbean Legend is also using the same locations like SD:TEHO and Age of Pirates before but every BlackMark release has a different story with new challenges. So it is worth to play it if gameplay and fun is more important to you than the newest graphics. I mean the graphics are not bad, they are just not uptodate.

With all respect, i played both, and i prefer the caribbean legend.

[Eickes]

Publicado originalmente por tacticalPCgamer:

Corsairs Legacy is the same genre made from people who also made old Sea Dogs games before. They are already using the Unreal Engine with much better graphics, reliable performance, similar gameplay and locations.

nope, they are using Unity

[Eickes]

Publicado originalmente por tacticalPCgamer:

Publicado originalmente por Eickes:

nope, they are using Unity

Sorry, my bad. I confused Unity Engine with Unreal Engine ;)

no problem, it happens, just wanted to set the record straight

[Aleksandr52r]

Publicado originalmente por tacticalPCgamer:

Publicado originalmente por Joruba:

The simple truth is this, and you said it yourself, - there is simply no alternative, there are no games like that. Because it is a unique and a very expensive (production wise) genre.

This is simply not true. Corsairs Legacy is the same genre made from people who also made old Sea Dogs games before. They are already using the Unreal Engine with much better graphics, reliable performance, similar gameplay and locations. But it is important to know that it is an Early Access Game at the moment and therefore not complete now! Only like a demo somehow but the price is more than fair because of that. This will of course change in the following month:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1594880/Corsairs_Legacy__Pirate_Action_RPG__Sea_Battles/
To answer Enapoete´s question: Caribbean Legend is also using the same locations like SD:TEHO and Age of Pirates before but every BlackMark release has a different story with new challenges. So it is worth to play it if gameplay and fun is more important to you than the newest graphics. I mean the graphics are not bad, they are just not uptodate.

Why did you bring this garbage here? The real Sea Dogs developer has already written to you:
The simple truth is this, and you said it yourself, - there is simply no alternative, there are no games like that. Because it is a unique and a very expensive (production wise) genre.

[Aleksandr52r]

Publicado originalmente por tacticalPCgamer:

Publicado originalmente por Aleksandr52r:

Why did you bring this garbage here? The real Sea Dogs developer has already written to you:
The simple truth is this, and you said it yourself, - there is simply no alternative, there are no games like that. Because it is a unique and a very expensive (production wise) genre.

You can simply ignore it if you don´t like it or don´t agree to it. It is my opinion and i stand by it. I have nothing to add to that. Aside from that the dev didn´t write to me, he wrote to the threadstarter Enapoete instead. Anyone who can read has a clear advantage.

is that why you cowardly write from an empty account, fearing a ban for false information?

[David Davidson]

I like the nostalgia of it, I loved Sea Dogs and Pirates of the Carribean (a rebrand of sea dogs with nothing to do with the movies other than the title IIRC) however while I can live with the dated engine I just tried to fit long guns to the front of my ship in the demo.
Not possible.
You'd expect the ability to fit a gun to every different gunport on your ship and many games have already done that, playing Sail Forth got me back into the "I hope a good game like AOP2 COAS has finally arrived" mindset as games like that are in large demand (especially after asscreed 4 black flag) and on playing the (extremely generous, unless there's a time limit) demo I want to buy this game, even though it's on an over 20 year old engine and seems to just include features put in game by modders a decade ago.

I get that it's a demo, but if one gun type on a ship (historically chasers (culverins ingame) or carronades went up front for either long range shooting, or a sail in from behind and rake with huge cannonballs) is an engine limitation then that may be a dealbreaker for me and I am in the mindset of buying the game.
That pirate MMO from around 2010 allowed for mixed guns (IIRC), I can handle the guards constantly asking for a port pass, I can handle getting a hexadecimal memory address from the usurer when asking what the interest on a loan is (in fact, making interest impossible to understand got a bit of a laugh out of me), I don't mind the google translate English in parts (given current world events, getting a good English translator for a Russian dev may be hard) and I can handle the early 2000s on foot combat system.

However if I cannot outfit my ship the way I want in a game that's about ships and sailing in 2024, well, it's a "wait and see if this gets fixed" problem then,

I applaud you releasing a new game, though if the engine has such heavy limitations and the price is higher than about $15 you aren't going to see many sales, as modders have already introduced completely new stories into your older games so only the most die hard fans (and I'm a big fan of your older games) are going to buy it.

I really wish you the best of luck, the age of sail game genre has been lacking and many promised ultra modern games have been a huge letdown, I begged to get in to closed alpha of Naval Action before it even hit steam, paid full price, put in >400 hours and then the devs just left the game in a beta state.

I hope you guys have what it takes to modernize this game to bring it in line with even arcadey sailing games from the past 10 years, I'd even offer to bug test and give better lines for the janky translations for free, after buying a copy (so long as the price fits the age and limitations of the game engine) if you can actually get the engine to work with modern expectations,

[Valmorian]

Dont fred! You can try the FREE Sandbox version tomorrow! It doenst come with the 200+ hour story mode, but you do get the full Sandbox experience.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/1782680/Caribbean_Legend_Sandbox/

Having played the older versions myself I have to say I was extremely excited with this remaster! It works very well on modern systems and you get used to the wonky old controls. The graphics arnt ground breaking but they hold up pretty well with the modernization, its not Sea of Thieves levels at all but its nostalgic and fits the game.

So if you can looks past the old graphics and the wonky ground controls the game can be a lot of fun!