Command & Conquer™ Tiberian Sun™ and Firestorm™

Command & Conquer™ Tiberian Sun™ and Firestorm™

dprog1995 Mar 12, 2024 @ 7:39am
Did Westwood have a problem with Michael Biehn ?
For some reason, in the expansion they decided to kill his character off-screen but they brought the Nod commander from the main game.

I read this rumor somewhere that they had some problems with him, but I didn't find any reliable sources for that.
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Maniac86 Mar 12, 2024 @ 10:14am 
Its more likely his schedule didnt line up, i did a quick peak at his IMDB and he was in 6 projects during Tiberian Sun to Firestorm (99/2000, but 99 is more important because thats likely when filming would have occured)
Nathan Mar 12, 2024 @ 10:40am 
Originally posted by Maniac86:
Its more likely his schedule didnt line up, i did a quick peak at his IMDB and he was in 6 projects during Tiberian Sun to Firestorm (99/2000, but 99 is more important because thats likely when filming would have occured)
To add on top of this, it's an expansion so that naturally bumps down the budget they would be willing to spend on-- And maybe Tiberian Sun didn't sell as well as they'd hoped with all this Hollywood A-listers in their story.
Speculation but easily common-sense stuff, happens all the time, schedules don't align, they didn't make as much money from the main game release as they'd hoped to and already have to deal with the fact that expansion packs won't sell as many copies as the main game, so gotta cut costs a bit, scale down on some storytelling aspects, expensive Hollywood actors being the most obvious choice.

(EDIT: checked wikipedia, says Tiberian Sun sold pretty well, 1.5million around launch and 2.4million before RA2, so that does put a dent to my point, still, not much talk about budgets apart from how troubled the development of TS was and being acquired by EA around the time when TS released)
Last edited by Nathan; Mar 12, 2024 @ 10:51am
Voland Mar 14, 2024 @ 5:30am 
Originally posted by Nathan:
Originally posted by Maniac86:
Its more likely his schedule didnt line up, i did a quick peak at his IMDB and he was in 6 projects during Tiberian Sun to Firestorm (99/2000, but 99 is more important because thats likely when filming would have occured)
To add on top of this, it's an expansion so that naturally bumps down the budget they would be willing to spend on-- And maybe Tiberian Sun didn't sell as well as they'd hoped with all this Hollywood A-listers in their story.
Speculation but easily common-sense stuff, happens all the time, schedules don't align, they didn't make as much money from the main game release as they'd hoped to and already have to deal with the fact that expansion packs won't sell as many copies as the main game, so gotta cut costs a bit, scale down on some storytelling aspects, expensive Hollywood actors being the most obvious choice.

(EDIT: checked wikipedia, says Tiberian Sun sold pretty well, 1.5million around launch and 2.4million before RA2, so that does put a dent to my point, still, not much talk about budgets apart from how troubled the development of TS was and being acquired by EA around the time when TS released)
also i dont think its budget problem cus he have like 10-15 min runtime overall. story cutscenes are really short after all.
Last edited by Voland; Mar 14, 2024 @ 5:30am
dprog1995 Mar 14, 2024 @ 5:34am 
According to this post-mortem article:
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/design/postmortem-westwood-studios-command-and-conquer-tiberian-sun
Everybody on the team knew this and we tried as hard as we could to work out all the details before we started the shoot. The problem was we didn’t have enough time and couldn’t change the date of the shoot because we wouldn’t have been able to get our two main actors, James Earl Jones and Michael Biehn. Going into the shoot, we had a pretty good idea of how we were going to work out all of the technical details such as camera tracking on a bluescreen, matching lighting to computer graphics, compositing, and so on. However, we ran into difficulties because we didn’t allow enough time for the more complex shots and were forced to edit on the fly during the shoot.

Guess it was just scheduling problems that made them to not bring back Michael Biehn.
ChihiroAE21 Mar 22, 2024 @ 6:01am 
According to the Tiberium Wars lore, Commander McNeil wasn't onboard the Kodiak. His second-in-command on the Kodiak, First Lieutenant Chandra, assumed command. McNeil would've reappeared in Tiberium, a cancelled C&C FPS.
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