Drive cancel

[HowlingGod]

I'm not understanding how to drive cancel in the tutorial. I'm a scrub at this, I admit. How/when do I execute Kyo's 2nd move?

[Ellie]

I had a bit of trouble with this too. I passed it, but I don't really know how. I did the tutorial again just to understand it, but the same thing happened. I think though that you're supposed to finish the controls for the second move the second his flame-spin animation ends.

[Mejwell]

A drive cancel is when you perform a second special move during the animation of another special move, and you have 50% drive meter. What this will do is immediately transition the first move into the second move, which will allow you combo things that normally wouldn't combo. Typically, the timing is probably looser than you would expect, but you'll need to experiment with cancelling specific moves to learn their specific timing. However, in the case of the tutorial move, there's actually a "shortcut" trick you should perform to make it easier. The first move is:

forward -> down -> down-forward + punch

And the second move is:

down -> down-forward -> forward + kick

Notice how the end of the motions in the first move begin the motions of the second move? Those still count towards to the second move's motion; this is known as "staying in the buffer." The way you should actually perform this is perform the first move, and then just continue to the second move, something like this:

forward -> down -> down-forward + punch -> forward + kick

While it's technically possible to perform the entire second move during the cancellable portion of the rising uppercut, the timing's very strict. Too fast, and you'll drop necessary directions, and too slow, and the cancellable period will already be gone. Using the motion above should make it a snap, though.

Cheers!

[pablofsi]

Cancel the dp on the first hit. You don't need shortcuts, you should be able to perform this if you wanna be good.

[HowlingGod]

Thank you so much.

[HowlingGod]

K, now im stuck at the max cancel, any tips?

[Reiki_Kito]

There's something called freeze frames. Before the character does the move, there's a time when the game freezes in the animation. Like a wind up. During the wind up, you can do the max cancel.

A max cancel is just like a drive cancel except you have certain requirements where you cancel a super into a super super called a Neomax.
1). You have to be in HD mode.
2). You must have 2 bars at the time to do the neomax.

Just like a drive cancel, you just do the super and then the neomax while the super hits. Once you get the timing, it's easy.

[DoktorMostro]

All the cancel thing is a piece of **** The game is good but not as KOF97

[Lord Humungus]

Originally posted by DoktorMostro:

All the cancel thing is a piece of **** The game is good but not as KOF97

get good newbie, the cancel mechanic its what makes this game shine, you have to learn the button hold trick if you wanna do it at its best though

[Philippe]

Dear gods I had forgotten how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ difficult this stuff is.
But seriously, it's supposed to be a TUTORIAL... T_T
I can do the separate moves alright, but the timing to cancel one into the next is just... it's a bit difficult you know?
A real tutorial would have something like "right now, noob! DO IT NOW!" or something.
Right now I just don't know _what_ I'm doing wrong. Really annoying.
Oh well, button mashing it is, then :P

[HowlingGod]

What controller are you using?

[Jacowboy]

Originally posted by Beef Supreme:

Originally posted by DoktorMostro:

All the cancel thing is a piece of **** The game is good but not as KOF97

get good newbie, the cancel mechanic its what makes this game shine, you have to learn the button hold trick if you wanna do it at its best though

This is the sort of BS that makes people quit... Calling people "newbies"... I wish you "pros" would stop with that. Otherwise you'll be playing alone when none new wants to try this game.

Also, please understand that the cancel mechanics are really REALLY tough on a keyboard. And yeah, I'm not fond of them either, but I've already said that a million times.

[Coffeeling]

Originally posted by Philippe:

Dear gods I had forgotten how ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ difficult this stuff is.
But seriously, it's supposed to be a TUTORIAL... T_T
I can do the separate moves alright, but the timing to cancel one into the next is just... it's a bit difficult you know?
A real tutorial would have something like "right now, noob! DO IT NOW!" or something.
Right now I just don't know _what_ I'm doing wrong. Really annoying.
Oh well, button mashing it is, then :P

Persevere. The nice thing about KOF's combo system is that while learning to do the moves is often a bit hard, comboing one move into another is surprisingly easy. Basically, you can press buttons => combo. Learn a tough special or super = get rewarded with pyrotechnics, that you can then pretty easily implement into a combo with normal moves.

KOF doesn't do that great a job at teaching admittedly, few fighting games do :/
But trust me, you don't need an ungodly amount of practice, and things start to feel easy pretty quickly.

[Philippe]

Well, I ended up doing it, although gods know how, exactly. Somehow the ... whatever then last one is called (Cancel Extra?) was much easier once I realised I had to go into super sayan mode (seriously, I'm still learning the terms, gimme a break).

But the trials are just the same madness. The timing is just insaaaaaane!

Still, as you say, it's super rewarding when you do get it. Practice makes perfect! :)

[Coffeeling]

It's called Hyperdrive mode. You can only cancel a Super into a Neomax in Hyperdrive mode. Otherwise you have to do the Neomax raw, and it costs 3 bars of super meter instead of 2.

The Dream Cancel Wiki has a lot of useful information about how the game system works. Understanding the how and why of something is a big part of doing it successfully ^^

http://dreamcancel.com/wiki/index.php?title=The_King_of_Fighters_XIII

[NYC AirLancer]

Seriously people, don't insult people for being new. Also, new players, don't generalize every experienced player as an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ because one of them decides to chide someone. When you get beat, don't be afraid to add the person who beat you as a friend and ask how you could improve your play. A lot of the veteran players have been around for a while, and want new players to get into the game. I'd bet there's more than a few who'd be willing to help you out or answer your questions.