Is the MP 40 actually used in real life?

[Xanto]

It's a gun from the 1940s, I can't imagine they are common, and reliable enough for real insurgents to be using them. I can imagine the Mosin used, since its a cheap marksman rifle. But the mp40?? Is there a good substitute for them?

[Rail financier]

No.

[Nosfer 😂👌🏻]

well, I saw video where american trooper was shooting PPSH-41 which he found somewhere in Afghanistan, so why not MP-40?

[Technopath]

They are extremely rare and unless there's no alternative, no.

[Onikenshin]

The thing about the PPSH is it was used by the Russians. That region is full of Russian weaponry and knock off Russian weaponry. The Mp40 is German, and while it could get over there due to Germany having forces based there over WW2, it is far more likely to see a Russian weapon. The Mp40 is not used, if it is, it's by a goat farmer who had it buried in his garden for years.

[rataholic]

Most likely just a placeholder for a more insurgent based firearm.

[T-Bone Biggins]

No, MP40's are not used at all. Even if there was one or two somewhere out in the sandbox I wouldn't call them being used because that is one or two out of tens of thousands of guns the 'insurgents' are using. They have a lot of our M16-family weapons that were captured, they have a lot of AKM/AK74 family weapons, and they have in general a large plethora of other weapons like various NATO/Russian LMG's, sniper rifles of various caliber and quality, etc. The possibility of one or two at most MP40's being used is just absurd, just like the inclusion of the MP40 in this game is absurd from a realism standpoint. The devs wanted an SMG for the Insurgent team and decided on that, so it's what you got.

[Deadpixel]

Something to keep in mind is that "Insurgents" in this game aren't a specific group of people (Insurgency's maps take place across Iraq, Afghanistan and even Somalia). It's a generalization of insurgent groups (not terrorists). So their arsenal reflects the "rag-tag" nature of what an uprising could/would get their hands on.

[kobe bryants helicoper pilot]

Originally posted by Deadpixel:

Something to keep in mind is that "Insurgents" in this game aren't a specific group of people (Insurgency's maps take place across Iraq, Afghanistan and even Somalia). It's a generalization of insurgent groups (not terrorists). So their arsenal reflects the "rag-tag" nature of what an uprising could/would get their hands on.

You just told them.
I always thought the same thing as the MP40 as you do.

[sweeper1975(GER)]

the mp 40 is maybe in some insurgency hands - but there are more uzis or cz skropions in use
they are smaler and easer to handel - maybe we will see some uzi or cz skorpion in the game

http://world.guns.ru/smg/chex/skorpion-vz61-e.html
http://world.guns.ru/smg/isr/uzi--micro-uzi--mini-uzi-e.html
http://world.guns.ru/smg/de/mp3-mp40-e.html

[Aurora borealis]

+1, has always seemed out of place in the game.

[rataholic]

Originally posted by Fister Roboto:

+1, has always seemed out of place in the game.

I wouldn't say it's out of place, insurgents would certainly use anything they get their hands on, but there are more conventional weapons they could be using instead of the MP 40.

[76561198151675867]

Insurgents use MP40s as often as US infantry use MP5Ks and UMPs or PMCs go out and actively seek out contact with enemy troops and engage them.

[perturbed_pug]

I'd rather have a couple weapons that seem out of place (the FAL, MP 40 and M1A1) than let the Insurgents only use a couple weapons. Variety is better than realism in this case for me.

[Triggerhippy]

While I would acknowledge that there are probably better guns to use as an insurgent submachine gun, it's still not totally unrealistic. I did a little bit of digging (mostly on wiki) reveals that not only did a lot of MP40s get captured by partisans operating in Yugoslavia in WWII but they also liked them so much that after the war Yugoslavia made a clone of the MP40, the M56.

This was then in wide usage with the Yugoslav army, so that in all the Balkan conflicts of the late 1990's including the Kosovo Liberation war there was significant usage of either MP40's or their clone.

Not wishing to get political and turn this into something else, but the Balkan wars both attracted foreign fighters and exported fighters to other 'insurgent' areas afterwards, and possibly their hardware?

[theUSguy425]

Originally posted by Nosfer:

well, I saw video where american trooper was shooting PPSH-41 which he found somewhere in Afghanistan, so why not MP-40?

Originally posted by Gaem Dev Iz Kool:

Insurgents use MP40s as often as US infantry use MP5Ks and UMPs or PMCs go out and actively seek out contact with enemy troops and engage them.

The PPSH-41 is a lot more common and was produced in large numbers over a longer period than the MP-40. It just makes less sense than something like an UZI, Sa vz. 23 or possibly a MAC varient gun.