FN FAL magazine round count needs a change!

[Sir Johnnydeath]

I noticed using the FAL that it has a 30rd magazine. My knowledge of guns, having a FAL of my own, they come with 20rd magazines. I love the FAL but I don't feel right using it in this current setup. Glad they added the recoil in the new patch too. Keep up the good work devs. Love the game.

[Sir Johnnydeath]

JBMan님이 먼저 게시:

**Smile**Sun**님이 먼저 게시:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_FAL
Feed system 20 or 30-round detachable box magazine.

There are also quad-stack 60rd magazines for M16's, but the military doesn't use them. A 20rd magazine is the most common for FAL and is what is issued in most militaries. You are hard pressed to find anything other than 20 round mags for the FAL, and if you do you won't have many.

Agreed! They don't feed as well and that is why they use 20rd magazines. Same with the U.S. military S.A.S.S rifle. In .308 it is a 20rd box mag.

[DrSheldonCooper]

Game Sucks anyways. Call of Duty !!!!!!!!

[Sir Johnnydeath]

Dr. Sheldon Cooper님이 먼저 게시:

Game Sucks anyways. Call of Duty !!!!!!!!

Ha! Good one buddy. I will give it to cod and bf, when they had the FAL/G3 in games they had the correct magazine round count right.

[Dr.Wholian?]

The 7.62x51 30 round mags also jut out much further than the standard mags, which causes it to collide with surfaces when trying to get a good shooting stance.

When prone, the mag blocks you from adapting a natural shooting stance, because you're so close to the ground. When shooting over cover, the cover can block your mag and make it hard to shoot over it.

In both cases you're forced to crane your body higher to clear the mag over the obstructions, giving you a less-stable shooting platform and making you a more exposed target to enemy detection and incoming fire.

The M16A1 was originally adopted with 20rd straight mags for these same reasons, though since the 5.56 thirty-rounders are much smaller than the 7.62 thirties, they were ultimately considered a reasonable compromise.

[T-Bone Biggins]

The Russians were looking at the AK12 with 60rd coffin magazines but they decided to stick with the old AK-74's as a general issue weapon. Smells a lot like the Army's Individual Carbine competition that was scrapped for no reason, even though the worst competitors in the competition still outperformed the M4 in every way in spades.

[Sir Johnnydeath]

Please fix this magazine round count in next update. That would be great. Thank you for your time.

[Espurr]

The FN FAL is also missing a charge animation in the game. This needs to be fixed!

[Sir Johnnydeath]

I find it odd that this is a tactical realism shooter but couldn't do the reserch on both the charge animation and magazine round count to get that FAL right. I am a bit worried for my other favorite gun the m14. Hope they get the magazine right on it. Both for that matter! I talked to zenphire, the realism dev, and thought it registerd when I told him but alas the update hotfix came out and no mag change. Changed all the recoil and tracer color so a mag round count wouldn't be too hard right? PLEASE!!!! Other than that great job.

[T-Bone Biggins]

Sir Johnnydeath님이 먼저 게시:

I find it odd that this is a tactical realism shooter but couldn't do the reserch on both the charge animation and magazine round count to get that FAL right. I am a bit worried for my other favorite gun the m14. Hope they get the magazine right on it. Both for that matter! I talked to zenphire, the realism dev, and thought it registerd when I told him but alas the update hotfix came out and no mag change. Changed all the recoil and tracer color so a mag round count wouldn't be too hard right? PLEASE!!!! Other than that great job.

Someone mentioned how the FAL and the Mk.18 have the exact same stats as the AKM, they are both just re-skins. If that's true then it's not a lack of research, they could be placeholders for future balancing or dare I say it's just laziness. Need a dev to come in and clear this up, I don't feel like searching around for the posts I read about this on.

[Sloth Bro]

T-Bone Biggins님이 먼저 게시:

Sir Johnnydeath님이 먼저 게시:

I find it odd that this is a tactical realism shooter but couldn't do the reserch on both the charge animation and magazine round count to get that FAL right. I am a bit worried for my other favorite gun the m14. Hope they get the magazine right on it. Both for that matter! I talked to zenphire, the realism dev, and thought it registerd when I told him but alas the update hotfix came out and no mag change. Changed all the recoil and tracer color so a mag round count wouldn't be too hard right? PLEASE!!!! Other than that great job.

Someone mentioned how the FAL and the Mk.18 have the exact same stats as the AKM, they are both just re-skins. If that's true then it's not a lack of research, they could be placeholders for future balancing or dare I say it's just laziness. Need a dev to come in and clear this up, I don't feel like searching around for the posts I read about this on.

They don't seem like reskins for me. Maybe the FAL and the Mk. 18. might be the same. The AKM definitely seems different. I still think NWI should increase the recoil on the FAL. It's a battle rifle ffs. Bullet count for the mags should be 20 though as that's the standard found worldwide for that caliber. Maybe NWI should also let us customize the different types of magazines. Maybe a drum mag for the AKM or a 20 vs. 30 round magazine for the M16-A4 and the Mk. 18. That would be pretty cool.

[>-FISH-D]

I'm sure they will fix it. The Mossberg 590 was implemented wrong at first as well only holding 6 shells. Now it holds 9.

[Sir Johnnydeath]

Lets all hope it's fixed. Rather not have to install mods to make it correct. Don't think enough people play to make that work cause doesn't everybody need to download whatever mod to make it work in whatever server? Make it a official patch please.

[Sloth Bro]

Sir Johnnydeath님이 먼저 게시:

Lets all hope it's fixed. Rather not have to install mods to make it correct. Don't think enough people play to make that work cause doesn't everybody need to download whatever mod to make it work in whatever server? Make it a official patch please.

Well the original mod had the British L1A1 semi-automatic FAL variant that still used 20 rounds. I'm sure NWI won't stray from Insurgency: Modern Infantry Combat.