Dumbest game i've ever played in my entire life.

[Toothbrush]

not allowing certain builds in certain content has to be the worst/laziest/dumbest development design choices i've ever seen.

What am I talking about as an example? Completely NULLIFYING the use of Skill builds for example in Countdown.

Devs, just DELETE all skill gear from the game.

For Years, now YEARS it's been Strikers, with shotgun offhand, and using whatever sweats main gun they got in the sweaty raid. that's IT.

I dont see a single Content creator talking about this,. for YEARS. the community doesn't care either, you guys are just happy being spoonfed the SAME garbage every patch. Nobody's complaining.


Having to run around and be a GUNBRO with the same old stupid build for YEARS in this game is absolutely EMBARRASSING. BE EMBARRASSED devs. If you have any shred of dignity in your profession you would change this but you wont.

[... Sadness.exe]

What? I have a skill build, and I go to the countdown absolutely calmly. Your build should be useful, and what it is - no one cares (even if it is a Zero IQ build from a gear set (green set))

The only build that was never liked is the seeker mine build through a Hard Wired gear set. If you play this build ... then play solo, and do not tell anyone that you play in "this build"

[Toothbrush]

What difficultly are you playing on? Anything challenging or above skills are basically disabled.

[Shepherd]

Skill builds are great if you know what you're doing. I've solo'd legendary strongholds with my skill builds.

The problem with using them in countdown is that the hunters at the end can hack them, so you have to adapt. Swap out that turret and drone for some CC skills and now you're the MVP of the group.

Not all skills are suitable for all situations. If you're going to run skill builds remember that you have 6 skill tiers and use that to your advantage, you can swap skills even mid combat so long as they aren't on cooldown.

So you can figure it out or whine like a 12 year old girl, up to you.

[h1ghpr13st]

Just an average jester points farm bait. I have seen better rage-baits on The First Descendant discussion forum.

[Toxi-crusader]

sounds like a skill issue

[Echolecter]

Skill build are OP in this game, reason for it is that they are much harder to destroy. Only problem with countdown are the hunters, they will take ownership of your offensive skills. In other parts of the game skills are very useful, if you're using correct talents and weapons. Drop turret, launch drone and fire few shots. All enemies dead, on to next room.

Aside from a few good skills the game is all about (weapon) damage, kill before getting hit yourself. So for that an all damage set (less armor/health) is very effective. Only NPCs can disable or take over players skills, and it would be great if players could do the same with talents. Or have some protection against it on higher skill tiers, but you can't.

[introspXtion]

Originally posted by Toxi-crusader:

sounds like a skill issue

lol

[Annihilator]

Honestly i not understand. For me the game is ok. If you not wanna use it dont use it.

[PAWNSTAR]

Originally posted by Annihilator:

Honestly i not understand. For me the game is ok. If you not wanna use it dont use it.

Count Down lol

You can use Certain Skill builds in Countdown , if you know what your doing and use the BUFFS you get from the consoles to your advantage .... mainly skills HUNTERS CANT Hijack and take control of and WIPE your Group wasting 15 mins of everyones time.

Noobs with Offensive SKILLS in COUNTDOWN can Potentially wipe your group against HUNTERS @ Extraction
(To prevent a WIPE of a countdown group dont use Certain skills during fire fights with Hunters)

Turrets & Drones <--- you will most likely get kicked from group if your using these
eg... i can show you with a turret & Drone @ expertise 27 will destroy your countdown team in seconds

This aint a DEVS issue Countdown is Countdown time is ticking away and turrets and drones Do bugger all Burst Damage and most likely kill your Team in worst case scenarios

But by all means take Turrets and Drones into legendary and go AFK

[Annihilator]

Originally posted by PAWNSTAR:

Originally posted by Annihilator:

Honestly i not understand. For me the game is ok. If you not wanna use it dont use it.

Count Down lol

You can use Certain Skill builds in Countdown , if you know what your doing and use the BUFFS you get from the consoles to your advantage .... mainly skills HUNTERS CANT Hijack and take control of and WIPE your Group wasting 15 mins of everyones time.

Noobs with Offensive SKILLS in COUNTDOWN can Potentially wipe your group against HUNTERS @ Extraction
(To prevent a WIPE of a countdown group dont use Certain skills during fire fights with Hunters)

Turrets & Drones <--- you will most likely get kicked from group if your using these
eg... i can show you with a turret & Drone @ expertise 27 will destroy your countdown team in seconds

This aint a DEVS issue Countdown is Countdown time is ticking away and turrets and drones Do bugger all Burst Damage and most likely kill your Team in worst case scenarios

But by all means take Turrets and Drones into legendary and go AFK

Ah mean the tech yellow build maybe :) in countdown, and not only that, the hunter can hack it yes but is a pubblic matchmaking is normal not all people know it.

I, honestly, go foward to it :)

[Ⓦⓗⓘⓩⓚⓘⓓ]

lmao game is broken if they allow skills builts into the game.. the pathetic AI doesnt know who or what to target as which is pretty dumb kill the operator its like when u see an engineer npc u dont shoot the machine gun but kill the npc its a simple logic which after 6 years the developers fail to understand...

anyways game is broken as hell only the hardcore players are still around.. get this game on a deep discount enjoy the few missions and skip the toxic raids as its just another dumb mechanic which is already broken... players just farm 27/7 countdown and the other stuff players hardly participate ... the developers waste time and resources creating stuff that 90% of their player base dont play ..... says alot on this broken game!!!

lastly, there is not build diversity its always the same old ♥♥♥♥♥♥ build that works trying to built something different in raids instant kick....

[astromedia.only]

I do share some of that frustration - lot of "skill-hate" design choices are being introduced: emp jammers, hacking enemies, ... some more recent missions cannot be completed on higher difficulty with skill build (if you are not min-maxing something very specific I guess). "Adapt" is understandable response but I would not like to hear that that often in loot-grind type of game where you usually (if you dont play extensivly only that one single game) where getting decent items for even one build is not that easy. If we wanted to play gun only there are ton of other games to play - we play this because the skills are unique part of this game but it seems more and more they dont really want us to use them, its weird :)
If you want to go that way then introduce also some mission mechanics that heavily disadvantage gun only builds in same way to balance it out atleast :)

[Burba]

The state of build diversity in this game does seem to be dire. It is a shame really.

[PAWNSTAR]

well yes 2 Raids + Countdown & possibly a mixture of builds for incursion,
DPS meter, faster you get something down the less damage you take... the faster the run the more efficient.

(I can take a healer build + Fire Skill Build & Status effect build or a Crowd control build into Countdown no problem.... Your asking for Death to the group using a Drone Turret build for Countdown)

Where Skill builds excel over Run & Gun builds in legendary, world activities, Dark Zone , PVP , Missions, Summit. (about 75% the rest of the game compared to 2 game modes)

Brilliant thing is you been grinding all these years, you will know what build is most effiecient for which activity, with Modifiers & with Global events

Skills TURN OFF after challenging??? Guess you havent cheesed a Skill build through Legendary Solo before

as for CONTENT CREATORS for this particular title , i would say 5 of them are still making a killing off this game From YT build videos since launch as The Next generation of players start , while the veteran players retire

[Sir_0v3rk1ll]

Originally posted by Toothbrush:

not allowing certain builds in certain content has to be the worst/laziest/dumbest development design choices i've ever seen.

What am I talking about as an example? Completely NULLIFYING the use of Skill builds for example in Countdown.

Devs, just DELETE all skill gear from the game.

For Years, now YEARS it's been Strikers, with shotgun offhand, and using whatever sweats main gun they got in the sweaty raid. that's IT.

I dont see a single Content creator talking about this,. for YEARS. the community doesn't care either, you guys are just happy being spoonfed the SAME garbage every patch. Nobody's complaining.


Having to run around and be a GUNBRO with the same old stupid build for YEARS in this game is absolutely EMBARRASSING. BE EMBARRASSED devs. If you have any shred of dignity in your profession you would change this but you wont.

I used to love this game. I reached level 8k and got my expertise maxed out. But, I have no interest in playing it. Almost no one is playing it. I went in today and it was dead. I also noticed that my clan was disbanded because no one showed up for a long time. I asked my daughter to check what's going on since she is the leader and it is disbanded.

I've been thinking and I might delete my ubisoft account. I hate the new games they are putting out and I hate what they have become. A week ago I deleted my EA account Ive had since BF1942 came out. lol, they asked me why? I said you dont support the games I like. I cant even open BF2142 anymore and you dont even support perma stats for BF2, or the game in general. Its all gone and all your new games suck lol. My wife and daughter did the same thing. We only buy from steam and if its required to have an account with anyone else we just dont buy it.