Cheaters and labor theft in Darkzone (Are you proud of the work you do?)

[HaKaN]

While I was spending hours in the Dark Zone, farming the DZ currency and chasing exotics, do you share the efforts I made and the feelings I felt when a cheater came and killed me and everyone else on the DZ from an irrelevant part of the map, even killing me again when I spawned? Where will I be compensated for the time and effort I spend by not blocking such cheaters, even if they get banned?

Do you have any thoughts about returning my items and the DZ currency I farmed, which I spent hours collecting but lost due to cheaters? (I think no, because it is precisely because of this attitude that the dark zone becomes unplayable.)

I sent in-game reports about many people, but since there is no such thing as a response, not knowing whether they were punished or not.
Feels like a waste of time.
I grew tired of darkzone because I encountered a cheater in every 3-4 darkzone entries. (I encountered cheaters not only in PVP but also in PVE content too)

I wish in such cases there was at least a reward or compensation system for people who lost their efforts due to cheaters.

Are you proud of the work you do?

[TheTool]

引用自 HaKaN：

Are you proud of the work you do?

Most of the time.

[Devil Dog]

What made u believe they were cheating?

[HaKaN]

引用自 Devil Dog：

What made u believe they were cheating?

It is impossible for him to see me from where he is (while he killed me from a distance of more than 600 meters and with a rain of bullets coming from inside the walls, people in different parts of the map died at the same time as me).

What made you believe in this type of writing when there are cheat videos you can even find on the internet?

[HaKaN]

The same thing that happened to me = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPE4TR1-TyA

The cheats they do in PVE content are their own business and the game company's business, but in PVP content, the game must either protect me from them (this is generally 100% impossible, there will be cheaters), show that they are punished with a ban wave as in other games, or at least get feedback to me about the person I reported. There is no room for it, I think what I lost can be compensated for at least as an apology. (This goes for anyone who has encountered cheaters)

[RunForRest]

In games where i can lose invested time, be it to bugs that happen frequently or cheaters - i stay away from those activities/games. There will be no PvP content anymore without cheaters, with AI punching its claws into everything its very very likely this will only get much worse - and right now its already bad enough when u look at popular PvP games (PUPG - roughly 140k detected cheaters within 1 week, every week, constantly. "The wiggle that killed Tarkov" video should be also well known by now. So cheaters are everywhere in those games where u need skill and high investment and where u can lose invested time. In something like Battlefield they r too, but not that many from my experience and u can just leave a match and join another - no big deal. But all the other games (extraction shooters and battle royales) - just stay away - cheaters have conquered the public gaming space and that wont change (anticheats will always be the losers in this battle)

[HaKaN]

引用自 PumpGunisiert：

In games where i can lose invested time, be it to bugs that happen frequently or cheaters - i stay away from those activities/games. There will be no PvP content anymore without cheaters, with AI punching its claws into everything its very very likely this will only get much worse - and right now its already bad enough when u look at popular PvP games (PUPG - roughly 140k detected cheaters within 1 week, every week, constantly. "The wiggle that killed Tarkov" video should be also well known by now. So cheaters are everywhere in those games where u need skill and high investment and where u can lose invested time. In something like Battlefield they r too, but not that many from my experience and u can just leave a match and join another - no big deal. But all the other games (extraction shooters and battle royales) - just stay away - cheaters have conquered the public gaming space and that wont change (anticheats will always be the losers in this battle)

Frankly, I think and feel the same things. However, The Division 2 team should at least be aware of this and not force people to play PvP. I only mean the PvP content drop, the exotics and named weapons that drop from the Raid and darkzone. I was trying to get them, but as I got crazy(thx cheaters), I started to care less.

I hope they add different PvE modes outside of raid to get these items, because finding raids is difficult for solo players. (If there was a third option like this, I'm sure I would never step into the darkzone again. Cheaters would also have fewer opportunities to satisfy their egos.)

[RunForRest]

I dont know enough of the game (level 9 atm) what value darkzones reward, but im pretty sure if i have to get into this and have to deal with cheaters - thats were i draw the line

[Ankua]

PVP brings so many problems. Cheating is only one aspect. i think of the player killer's mental state. It doesn't stay in the Dark Zones it flows out into the chat and then RL with bad feelings.
We shouldn't be feeding this destructive behavior with elite rewards you only can get by being exposed to an unsocial individual.

[BAZ]

Its fine i went there once got killed the same way after that only PvE and i live a chill life
Brainless kids will always cheat you cant do nothing about them.....

[HaKaN]

引用自 Ankua：

PVP brings so many problems. Cheating is only one aspect. i think of the player killer's mental state. It doesn't stay in the Dark Zones it flows out into the chat and then RL with bad feelings.
We shouldn't be feeding this destructive behavior with elite rewards you only can get by being exposed to an unsocial individual.

引用自 BAZ：

Its fine i went there once got killed the same way after that only PvE and i live a chill life
Brainless kids will always cheat you cant do nothing about them.....

I agree with your ideas, the best thing is to spend time calmly in PvE until Ubisoft intervenes. I don't think they will take over, but hope is free

[Annihilator]

引用自 HaKaN：

引用自 PumpGunisiert：

In games where i can lose invested time, be it to bugs that happen frequently or cheaters - i stay away from those activities/games. There will be no PvP content anymore without cheaters, with AI punching its claws into everything its very very likely this will only get much worse - and right now its already bad enough when u look at popular PvP games (PUPG - roughly 140k detected cheaters within 1 week, every week, constantly. "The wiggle that killed Tarkov" video should be also well known by now. So cheaters are everywhere in those games where u need skill and high investment and where u can lose invested time. In something like Battlefield they r too, but not that many from my experience and u can just leave a match and join another - no big deal. But all the other games (extraction shooters and battle royales) - just stay away - cheaters have conquered the public gaming space and that wont change (anticheats will always be the losers in this battle)

Frankly, I think and feel the same things. However, The Division 2 team should at least be aware of this and not force people to play PvP. I only mean the PvP content drop, the exotics and named weapons that drop from the Raid and darkzone. I was trying to get them, but as I got crazy(thx cheaters), I started to care less.

I hope they add different PvE modes outside of raid to get these items, because finding raids is difficult for solo players. (If there was a third option like this, I'm sure I would never step into the darkzone again. Cheaters would also have fewer opportunities to satisfy their egos.)

Not change so much because the rogues can kill you too without cheats too with good tatics and build. This is called pvp.

My tips is call a helicopter not over a hour and more time for not lost all.

I collected in one night over 1000 coins.


Edit: And i found a final part of the system corruption :)

[HaKaN]

引用自 Annihilator：

引用自 HaKaN：

Frankly, I think and feel the same things. However, The Division 2 team should at least be aware of this and not force people to play PvP. I only mean the PvP content drop, the exotics and named weapons that drop from the Raid and darkzone. I was trying to get them, but as I got crazy(thx cheaters), I started to care less.

I hope they add different PvE modes outside of raid to get these items, because finding raids is difficult for solo players. (If there was a third option like this, I'm sure I would never step into the darkzone again. Cheaters would also have fewer opportunities to satisfy their egos.)

Not change so much because the rogues can kill you too without cheats too with good tatics and build. This is called pvp.

My tips is call a helicopter not over a hour and more time for not lost all.

I collected in one night over 1000 coins.


Edit: And i found a final part of the system corruption :)

You didn't fully understand the title of the topic. I didn't say good players, I directly said cheat users.
If you especially look at the video in my 3rd comment, you can see the difference between cheating and a good player. (5th overall from the start)

I have also come across good players or people who play like they are badass but at least they know how to play that way. Your chance of winning against someone who cheats is 0. Because that's what cheating is for...

[FragCatcher]

i have been shot thru a semi, and my buddy i team up with was shot thru a building a second later, by the same guy. with no line of sight! so not only were they using an aim bot, but also a wall hack... Easy anti cheat should be renamed to "Easy to cheat...." it's worthless

[ArmedGhost-]

Been playing since day one of release, have about 2.6k hours, about 1.2k hours in DZs and of those 1.2k hours I have probably encountered maybe 5 cheaters max over the years. With that said, I call complete bullsh*t you're encountering cheaters every 3-4 DZs.

[pit-s]

The thing is: IF you go DZ you (should) know that you can be killed at any second you stay in there.
Your mindset should be "I'm as good as dead in the next moment" - so use extraction often or dont go there at all.
Its pretty silly to ask for compensation bc you tried your luck and lost - sure its infuriating if it was because of a cheater (worse enough that there are some) but you could have lost everything by getting jumped by a group anyways (happend to me more than once btw).
It was your choice to go there and not using extraction to limit your potential losses ...

I dont know why you even farm the DZ currency - that probably has to do with my (more or less) "noob status" - but if you do it for exotics just go countdown, its a faster and easier way.