Vanguard Season(spoiler)

[Arcti]

So, Keaner alive, Parnell alive, Kelso joint Keaner rouges, what next? Will we see Fey Lau alive too? Reminds me Disney's Star Wars when they revive dead characters, not good way , shows lack of creativity. But anyway, what we may see in the next seasons before we get continues of Keaner story, where we are going to, how devs fill this gap between Vanguard season and story DLC, so many questions but still people are happy to see Keaner again

[Sallorris]

is it how new dlc worked just fake his dead easy story no need to complicated

[[=VF=]-Ray Jefferson]

Unsurprisingly, but I hope we will get our revenge on Keener in the 2025 DLC and not at the end of the season.

We can call Ubisoft lazy for reusing the same bad guys, but the story stands. Parnell said Isac is easy to deceive.

[Arcti]

Originally posted by Ray Jefferson:

Unsurprisingly, but I hope we will get our revenge on Keener in the 2025 DLC and not at the end of the season.

We can call Ubisoft lazy for reusing the same bad guys, but the story stands. Parnell said Isac is easy to deceive.

They can cheat Isac, but why agents never double check dead target. Oh come on, we killed Keaner but didn't check his pulse , breath, left body there blindly following Isac, such a dangerous guy in TD but agents better take body of Lau and Scheffer.
It is so nice that devs added more cutscenes in seasons ,but still not enough for adding some actions. If in next season we kill target and won't make sure so what worth storyline, especially when to look back rogues we eliminated , they all may be alive

[Uncle Sam]

is the game still broken?

[Arcti]

Originally posted by Uncle Sam:

is the game still broken?

No. It wasn't broken. It works well

[ArmedGhost-]

In defense of the story, The Division actually never verified Kenner's death and kinda just took ISACs word for it. Considering Parnell's skills in tech, deception and that he even said ISAC is easy to deceive, not too far fetched for the story to go into this direction. Also, keep in mind this game's life cycle was supposed to end in 2021 after the first year's worth of manhunt missions after the NYC DLC.

Was still a pretty cool mission and completely unexpected outcome. I for one wasn't disappointed.

[ArmedGhost-]

Originally posted by Kitten Strikes Back:

Originally posted by Ray Jefferson:

Unsurprisingly, but I hope we will get our revenge on Keener in the 2025 DLC and not at the end of the season.

We can call Ubisoft lazy for reusing the same bad guys, but the story stands. Parnell said Isac is easy to deceive.

They can cheat Isac, but why agents never double check dead target. Oh come on, we killed Keaner but didn't check his pulse , breath, left body there blindly following Isac, such a dangerous guy in TD but agents better take body of Lau and Scheffer.
It is so nice that devs added more cutscenes in seasons ,but still not enough for adding some actions. If in next season we kill target and won't make sure so what worth storyline, especially when to look back rogues we eliminated , they all may be alive

I will 100% guarantee that when the NYC DLC story was written it was not written in mind that the game's life cycle would go on after the WoNY 1st year of Manhunt missions. The content for The Division 2 was supposed to end in 2021, but given the high demand for new content, we got much more than what was planned, which I think we gotta appreciate that they have been writing and developing in-depth story content pretty much on the fly. (Even The Division 3 wasn't planned and they just last year decided to actually release a 3rd game; which I don't think it the greatest idea IMO, but we'll see) These past few manhunts have been far more interesting and engaging than the initial manhunts missions.

To be honest, rather them reuse previous agents with a deeper history to the franchise rather than just introducing a new face that we probably wouldn't even care about. Seeing familiar faces going over to Brooklyn is more intriguing than three new randoms.

[ArmedGhost-]

Originally posted by Ray Jefferson:

Unsurprisingly, but I hope we will get our revenge on Keener in the 2025 DLC and not at the end of the season.

We can call Ubisoft lazy for reusing the same bad guys, but the story stands. Parnell said Isac is easy to deceive.

Considering they were driving over to Brooklyn at the end, pretty sure that's what the Brooklyn DLC is going to entail. Don't think we will see much more regarding that storyline until he DLC.

[Arcti]

Originally posted by Uncle_Festus:

In defense of the story, The Division actually never verified Kenner's death and kinda just took ISACs word for it. Considering Parnell's skills in tech, deception and that he even said ISAC is easy to deceive, not too far fetched for the story to go into this direction. Also, keep in mind this game's life cycle was supposed to end in 2021 after the first year's worth of manhunt missions after the NYC DLC.

Was still a pretty cool mission and completely unexpected outcome. I for one wasn't disappointed.

By this logic many games don't verify deaths, because it's really clear if someone dies. I don't tell this is bad idea to return Keener, it was predictable, I thought about it like oh, he would return in new story DLC somehow and Kelso's outfit when season was shipped pushed idea that she joint hunter or rogue, but didn't expect mission ends like that. And actually this season, this ending of season still the best of all seasons.

[Arcti]

As I see, many people forcing Parnell's speech about Isac because YouTubers brought it up. Pretty sure players even didn't pay attention to all words in game.

[The Stranger]

How many times do we end up fighting Keaner at this point.
Gonna be interesting to see where this leads. Most Rogue Agents ended up dead.

[Pipsqueak]

Bad storytelling imo, the agent killed Keaner, Parnell and Lao. I'm sure we checked for a pulse and not just assume they are dead because ISAC says they are.

[Derrame]

Whn i completed the expansion i thought they killed off keener too soon, i was suspecting a return
but stll was a surprise,
now, Kelso never explains why she joined keener
and the player's agent, touches the sam black box and gets electrocuted just like Kelso!? wtf
and why?
Keener can't contrll the player's agent
and he says he cant allo sokolova to take over the world, is he against black tusk

will there be new seasons and manhunts or directly a new expansion and a new story fllowing this events in vanguard?
i need to talk to kelso

[ArmedGhost-]

Originally posted by Kitten Strikes Back:

Originally posted by Uncle_Festus:

In defense of the story, The Division actually never verified Kenner's death and kinda just took ISACs word for it. Considering Parnell's skills in tech, deception and that he even said ISAC is easy to deceive, not too far fetched for the story to go into this direction. Also, keep in mind this game's life cycle was supposed to end in 2021 after the first year's worth of manhunt missions after the NYC DLC.

Was still a pretty cool mission and completely unexpected outcome. I for one wasn't disappointed.

By this logic many games don't verify deaths, because it's really clear if someone dies. I don't tell this is bad idea to return Keener, it was predictable, I thought about it like oh, he would return in new story DLC somehow and Kelso's outfit when season was shipped pushed idea that she joint hunter or rogue, but didn't expect mission ends like that. And actually this season, this ending of season still the best of all seasons.

Well. No other game's have an ISAC system where an entire agency fully trusts and Cornell knew that which is why in this aspect it actually makes sense. Cornell deceived The Division knowing agents would believe what ISAC's readings were.

Obviously this season's story wasn't even thought of when the WoNY story was written, but Keener often repeats the question asking if agents (we) still trust ISAC. Even some of the True Sons propaganda broadcasts recordings touch on the subject of trusting ISAC. Of all of the garbage stories bringing back dead characters this storyline in The Division is more believable, actually makes sense and has other details in the game that tie it together.

I call complete B.S to anyone who says they predicated the outcome of this season or that Keener was going to be brought back for the Brooklyn DLC. In fact I remember reading rage posts about how Keener was killed off in the WoNY story.