Mantis - Nerfed or Bugged

[CascadeHush]

The special sight function on the Mantis, where it highlights enemy heads visible even through fog or barriers, seems to no longer function. Instead you get a pointless and very brief red circle after hitting an enemy.

I have been using the Nemesis for a couple of weeks for the proficiency rank, which I just completed and switched back to the Mantis, only to find out it's basically useless as an exotic.

I don't remember hearing about this in the patch notes.

[in]

Most likely a bug. It happened and was reported during PTS, but obviously devs did not care.

[𝕊𝕙𝕒𝕚𝕕𝕠𝕟]

Mantis was mentioned as "people are complaining about how OP it is, and we listened"
So, probably nerfed.

[CascadeHush]

Did they ever fix it? I have seen no mention in any recent patch notes. I can only assume it's a bug, because if it's an intentional nerf, why would they not own up to that?

I really don't want to download the game again just to find out it's still busted.

[Lumberjack]

its bugged still for now

[CascadeHush]

Thanks, I don't imagine I'll be returning to the game at this point. Ubisoft have done me a favour. But I still appreciate the update and anybody who comes across this thread please let us know if there has been any change.

[Gökyüzü]

That circle only be visable if enemy is in your line of sight. If they are hiding behind a solid object it wont show only exeption is enemy shields and glass. If the enemy doesnt targets you it becomes an orange circle around enemy's head if they are targeting you it becomes a 3 piece red circle.

It works as intended

[CascadeHush]

Whatever the intent, it was a major change to how the weapon works, completely destroyed it's exotic talent, and was never mentioned in any patch notes. The weapon wasn't even that good to begin with, but for me it was a huge quality of life improvement. I'm not good at shooters, but having that extra information, combined with the Tactician drone, made the game fun and playable to me. Considering the update was supposed to make the game more friendly to casual players, they destroyed it for this one.

You may not care that people are either leaving live service games in droves and refusing to to invest in new ones. It's $&*( like this. This is not the first time where something was stealth nerfed in a way where it was not clear if it was intentional or a bug. If it was in a patch notes and was clear what was going on, I wouldn't be complaining.

[Gökyüzü]

Originally posted by CascadeHush:

Whatever the intent, it was a major change to how the weapon works, completely destroyed it's exotic talent, and was never mentioned in any patch notes. The weapon wasn't even that good to begin with, but for me it was a huge quality of life improvement. I'm not good at shooters, but having that extra information, combined with the Tactician drone, made the game fun and playable to me. Considering the update was supposed to make the game more friendly to casual players, they destroyed it for this one.

You may not care that people are either leaving live service games in droves and refusing to to invest in new ones. It's $&*( like this. This is not the first time where something was stealth nerfed in a way where it was not clear if it was intentional or a bug. If it was in a patch notes and was clear what was going on, I wouldn't be complaining.

Here 3 years ago weapon still works as intended

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvo-vua-QxY

Enemys targeting you gets 3 piece red circle and enemys doesnt trageting you gets orange circle. And this weapon has infinite decoy ability as long as you get kills. Which decoy takes all the atencion of enemys for a while.

Im guessing your problem most likely a build issue. Mantis didnt get nerfed but they did nerfed chainkiller at some point to limit max damage weapons can make. Which with out any event modifier most sniper rifles hits 26-27m only sniper rifle that can bypass this cap is nemesis and special 50 cal sniper(this one isnt relyable at all). But last week with the guardian event i was able to hit 34-40m easly now it droped back to 26-27m. That is not a nerf toght this was just a temporary buff.

[CascadeHush]

No, the orange circle was gone after the big update (project resolve IIRC), and for at least 2 updates after that. Maybe they finally brought it back, but I've yet to have any confirmation of that and this was not the only place I mentioned it. I don't care about the big red circle, that did still work and frankly it's more annoying that useful (Yeah, I know there is some talent or whatever where that would be useful, but not for me).

I don't care about the decoy, regardless of how they want to force it into the meta. That was not why I was using it. So apparently they nerfed one aspect of the weapon in order to force it into a meta that I'm not interested it. As it stands I'd be better off with the M700 carbon.

Or just play another game, which is what I've been doing.