the division heartland

[Winwins]

the division heartland
when is the beta
for this
and any official release yet

[ArmedGhost-]

There's a private beta that you can sign up for.
No official news on a public beta or official release date.

[Zero McDol]

If they're planning on doing nighttime pvp in the entire map, without any options to op out, then I won't be playing it. Dark Zones are one thing, I can avoid those in The Division 2.

[Zero McDol]

Originally posted by Soma:

Originally posted by Zero McDol:

If they're planning on doing nighttime pvp in the entire map, without any options to op out, then I won't be playing it. Dark Zones are one thing, I can avoid those in The Division 2.

Would they really do this? Force PVP knowing there are solo PVE players. I still don't understand why must PVP be included in every entry. Feels lazy, since PVP is more about. Finding the cheese first. Then spam the same old, same old. Making most of the gear obtained comically useless in PVP mode. :BL3Facepalm:

Indeed.

From what I've seen on YouTube, it seems as though there will be nighttime pvp. Basically bla bla risk vs reward.


Here's a video. There was another directly from Ubisoft I think, but I'll have to do some more digging, will update:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fyd8bjw70Ek


Deep Dive video Ubisoft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEvZ-PgD4Iw

[ArmedGhost-]

Originally posted by Soma:

Originally posted by Zero McDol:

If they're planning on doing nighttime pvp in the entire map, without any options to op out, then I won't be playing it. Dark Zones are one thing, I can avoid those in The Division 2.

Would they really do this? Force PVP knowing there are solo PVE players. I still don't understand why must PVP be included in every entry. Feels lazy, since PVP is more about. Finding the cheese first. Then spam the same old, same old. Making most of the gear obtained comically useless in PVP mode. :BL3Facepalm:

Not really lazy considering that's the entire point of the game. Heartland is Ubisofts take on games like Escape From Tarkov or The Cycle: Frontier.

[Zero McDol]

Originally posted by LethalDiabetic-:

Originally posted by Soma:

Would they really do this? Force PVP knowing there are solo PVE players. I still don't understand why must PVP be included in every entry. Feels lazy, since PVP is more about. Finding the cheese first. Then spam the same old, same old. Making most of the gear obtained comically useless in PVP mode. :BL3Facepalm:

Not really lazy considering that's the entire point of the game. Heartland is Ubisofts take on games like Escape From Tarkov or The Cycle: Frontier.

Well that's completely up to Ubisoft, just as it will be up to the thousands of pve players to play or not play the game.

Nothing good comes from forcing pve players to pvp, but I guess that Ubisoft will have to learn that lesson, the hard way. Either way, I'll be sticking with The Division 2; Heartland is completely off of my radar.

[ArmedGhost-]

Originally posted by Zero McDol:

Originally posted by LethalDiabetic-:

Not really lazy considering that's the entire point of the game. Heartland is Ubisofts take on games like Escape From Tarkov or The Cycle: Frontier.

Well that's completely up to Ubisoft, just as it will be up to the thousands of pve players to play or not play the game.

Nothing good comes from forcing pve players to pvp, but I guess that Ubisoft will have to learn that lesson, the hard way. Either way, I'll be sticking with The Division 2; Heartland is completely off of my radar.

That's the entire concept of these kind of games. Don't see any leverage to players who are upset about having to potentially PvP when that's the entire foundation of the game. Players fighting against each other to complete their own missions and objectives.

It like players complaining about getting PvP'd in DZs. Like you said, if you don't want to have PvP engagements, don't play it. Heartlands isn't targeted for players who don't want to PvP. Not too excited for Heartlands myself, but being forced into a PvPvE environment isn't going to stop me from trying it.

[Ankua]

Just another money burning idea from a failing publisher. They should have used the assets for a division 2 dlc.

[Roovka]

Originally posted by Ankua:

Just another money burning idea from a failing publisher. They should have used the assets for a division 2 dlc.

Unironically, I agree. Heartland is a late to the party PvPvE game that, due to the nature of its design, will have a lot of people dismissing it fairly quickly.

[ArmedGhost-]

Originally posted by Roovka:

Originally posted by Ankua:

Just another money burning idea from a failing publisher. They should have used the assets for a division 2 dlc.

Unironically, I agree. Heartland is a late to the party PvPvE game that, due to the nature of its design, will have a lot of people dismissing it fairly quickly.

Agreed. I think Heartlands and the Division mobile game were a waste of resources, BUT The Division 2 is getting another DLC at the end of year 5. It's on their year 5 roadmap. On season 4 of year 5, there's Seasons 2.0 and a "Story DLC" listed.

[Zero McDol]

Originally posted by LethalDiabetic-:

Originally posted by Zero McDol:

Well that's completely up to Ubisoft, just as it will be up to the thousands of pve players to play or not play the game.

Nothing good comes from forcing pve players to pvp, but I guess that Ubisoft will have to learn that lesson, the hard way. Either way, I'll be sticking with The Division 2; Heartland is completely off of my radar.

That's the entire concept of these kind of games. Don't see any leverage to players who are upset about having to potentially PvP when that's the entire foundation of the game. Players fighting against each other to complete their own missions and objectives.

It like players complaining about getting PvP'd in DZs. Like you said, if you don't want to have PvP engagements, don't play it. Heartlands isn't targeted for players who don't want to PvP. Not too excited for Heartlands myself, but being forced into a PvPvE environment isn't going to stop me from trying it.

Uh, then perhaps you should consider that there is a major difference between an optional pvp in Dark Zone areas vs a -> Forced <- nighttime pvp in nearly the entire map of Heartland. I mean, feel free to defend it, but I certainly won't be.

See, you won't hear me complain about Dark Zones in TD 2, because -> I never go there <-. Simple.

As I said though, Ubisoft can and will do what they want, just as pve players will choose to or not to play Heartland. I myself won't be going anywhere near Heartland.

[ArmedGhost-]

Originally posted by Zero McDol:

Originally posted by LethalDiabetic-:

That's the entire concept of these kind of games. Don't see any leverage to players who are upset about having to potentially PvP when that's the entire foundation of the game. Players fighting against each other to complete their own missions and objectives.

It like players complaining about getting PvP'd in DZs. Like you said, if you don't want to have PvP engagements, don't play it. Heartlands isn't targeted for players who don't want to PvP. Not too excited for Heartlands myself, but being forced into a PvPvE environment isn't going to stop me from trying it.

Uh, then perhaps you should consider that there is a major difference between an optional pvp in Dark Zone areas vs a -> Forced <- nighttime pvp in nearly the entire map of Heartland. I mean, feel free to defend it, but I certainly won't be.

See, you won't hear me complain about Dark Zones in TD 2, because -> I never go there <-. Simple.

As I said though, Ubisoft can and will do what they want, just as pve players will choose to or not to play Heartland. I myself won't be going anywhere near Heartland.

I just don't see the point of this argument, you're clearly are just overlooking the entire point of what Heartlands is suppose to be. Heartland is not targeted for players who don't want to PvP. It's supposed to be an open PvPvE map, like Cycle and Escape From Tarkov. If you don't like PvP games, then don't play PvP games and stop trying to make the game something it's not supposed to be.

What you're complaining about is like a PvP player going into the open world in Division 2 and complaining that there's no PvP in a PvE only environment. Understand the concept of a game before you start complaining. Don't like it, don't play it, it really is that simple. Literally nobody cares whether play Heartlands or not.

[Zero McDol]

Originally posted by LethalDiabetic-:

Originally posted by Zero McDol:

Uh, then perhaps you should consider that there is a major difference between an optional pvp in Dark Zone areas vs a -> Forced <- nighttime pvp in nearly the entire map of Heartland. I mean, feel free to defend it, but I certainly won't be.

See, you won't hear me complain about Dark Zones in TD 2, because -> I never go there <-. Simple.

As I said though, Ubisoft can and will do what they want, just as pve players will choose to or not to play Heartland. I myself won't be going anywhere near Heartland.

I just don't see the point of this argument, you're clearly are just overlooking the entire point of what Heartlands is suppose to be. Heartland is not targeted for players who don't want to PvP. It's supposed to be an open PvPvE map, like Cycle and Escape From Tarkov. If you don't like PvP games, then don't play PvP games and stop trying to make the game something it's not supposed to be.

What you're complaining about is like a PvP player going into the open world in Division 2 and complaining that there's no PvP in a PvE only environment. Understand the concept of a game before you start complaining. Don't like it, don't play it, it really is that simple. Literally nobody cares whether play Heartlands or not.

Well I'm not trying to change the game dude, so I'm not sure where you're getting that idea from. I've simply looked at the details, decided that I won't be playing the game, and also decided to post that here in the forums. Simple as that.

As I said, Ubisoft will do what they want, and the players who don't enjoy pvp will play or not play the game.


Now dude, I'm letting it go and moving on or more specifically, sticking with the Division 2. I have no interest in Heartland, so I will be forgetting that it exists and no longer talking about it. Good day.