Tom Clancy's The Division 2

Tom Clancy's The Division 2

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Nihilister 2023 年 6 月 8 日 上午 11:50
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UBISOFT is a joke ... Leaving the server down and going home
Employee are done for the day ... couldnt fix the servers, so we'll see maybe tomorrow the game will be back on, who knows, lol ... Its the weakest ♥♥♥♥ ive ever seen in my life
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xmoondockx 2023 年 6 月 8 日 下午 9:43 
引用自 yung_maraschino
引用自 Nenne.

Workers do.
You should try work one day. And see how it works.

Stop whinning kid.

I mean clearly they haven't made enough money off of season passes, DLC, and the 20M players they boast about to have more than one shift of techs? (:
You know the difference between a publisher and software studio?
NetshadeX 2023 年 6 月 8 日 下午 9:48 
The Division 2 sold over 10.000.000 copies and has a very loyal fan base, across multiple platforms, that play that game exclusively. Calling it a day and going home when things get hard isn't really an option is it?

Especially after holding an online presser presenting your new Year 5 (!) content. It should be a matter of honor and principle to put in the immediate effort to fix this.
ArmedGhost- 2023 年 6 月 8 日 下午 9:53 
引用自 NetshadeX
The Division 2 sold over 10.000.000 copies and has a very loyal fan base, across multiple platforms, that play that game exclusively. Calling it a day and going home when things get hard isn't really an option is it?

Especially after holding an online presser presenting your new Year 5 (!) content. It should be a matter of honor and principle to put in the immediate effort to fix this.

Bro. Complaining about the maintenance workers going home to resume tomorrow is like taking your car to a garage to get fixed and getting mad the mechanic goes home for the day instead of working until your car is fixed.
最后由 ArmedGhost- 编辑于; 2023 年 6 月 8 日 下午 9:55
romeodeng007 2023 年 6 月 8 日 下午 9:55 
引用自 LethalDiabetic-
引用自 romeodeng007
This is really a joke, I am not sure about if it's only GAME company behavior?(At least I haven't seen anyone did it before). The production server should have a catastrophic plan, means it should have a fail over server when some critical issue happened on major server.

Bro. I have been gaming for over 20 years and server outages happen. SOCOM II, BF: Modern Combat, Splinter Cell: Omega Strain. All multiplayer games where servers went down and was not an immediate priority to the point maintenance workers stayed late. I just can't believe people are getting this upset over an outage like it's the first time in gaming history it's happened.

PSN back in 2011 was down for almost a month.

That's why I state if it's only happened to "GAME" company. UBI only needs to state the server is down for maintenance, but why it has to mention the employee are off. Does business really go this low nowadays? BTW I am not upset that the server down, I am upset of the work attitude that in the major workforce right now.
ArmedGhost- 2023 年 6 月 8 日 下午 9:58 

引用自 romeodeng007
引用自 LethalDiabetic-

Bro. I have been gaming for over 20 years and server outages happen. SOCOM II, BF: Modern Combat, Splinter Cell: Omega Strain. All multiplayer games where servers went down and was not an immediate priority to the point maintenance workers stayed late. I just can't believe people are getting this upset over an outage like it's the first time in gaming history it's happened.

PSN back in 2011 was down for almost a month.

That's why I state if it's only happened to "GAME" company. UBI only needs to state the server is down for maintenance, but why it has to mention the employee are off. Does business really go this low nowadays? BTW I am not upset that the server down, I am upset of the work attitude that in the major workforce right now.


If your car is in a garage for repairs, you're telling me it would be bad business practice for the mechanics to go home after working all day instead of working until your car is fully repaired?

Pretty ridiculous expectation. It's not bad business practice. Maintenance workers have a life outside of their job. We can't expect them to work 24/7.
最后由 ArmedGhost- 编辑于; 2023 年 6 月 8 日 下午 9:58
romeodeng007 2023 年 6 月 8 日 下午 10:03 
引用自 LethalDiabetic-
引用自 romeodeng007

That's why I state if it's only happened to "GAME" company. UBI only needs to state the server is down for maintenance, but why it has to mention the employee are off. Does business really go this low nowadays? BTW I am not upset that the server down, I am upset of the work attitude that in the major workforce right now.


If your car is in a garage for repairs, you're telling me it would be bad business practice for the mechanics to go home after working all day instead of working until your car is fully repaired?

Pretty ridiculous expectation. It's not bad business practice. Maintenance workers have a life outside of their job. We can't expect them to work 24/7.

I am not sure where are you living? Of course I will not ask them to repair the car overtime, but I will be automatic provided loaner car or ride. That's why I mentioned fail over server.
Zero McDol 2023 年 6 月 8 日 下午 10:07 
引用自 LethalDiabetic-
引用自 romeodeng007
This is really a joke, I am not sure about if it's only GAME company behavior?(At least I haven't seen anyone did it before). The production server should have a catastrophic plan, means it should have a fail over server when some critical issue happened on major server.

Bro. I have been gaming for over 20 years and server outages happen. SOCOM II, BF: Modern Combat, Splinter Cell: Omega Strain. All multiplayer games where servers went down and was not an immediate priority to the point maintenance workers stayed late. I just can't believe people are getting this upset over an outage like it's the first time in gaming history it's happened.

PSN back in 2011 was down for almost a month.
Unless you were PC gaming, console games were exclusively offline single player, in the early 2000's, with some games having online capability. Heck, I've been gaming since the late 1980's on Nintendo and plenty of others have been gaming a lot longer than that.

I mean I get what you're saying dude, but there's no excuse for this and that month long shutdown that you mentioned, shouldn't have happened, period.

The issue, is that this game is a $80 console game that just got it's online cut for a time, and as such just became a paperweight. Anyone who doesn't get it, can now deal with the fact that this $80 dollar game can die at any time for any reason with nothing more than a thank for your business from Ubisoft.


I mean, it is what it is, but there is no defense for these types of practices. Even MMO studios don't go this far.
ArmedGhost- 2023 年 6 月 8 日 下午 10:08 
引用自 romeodeng007
引用自 LethalDiabetic-


If your car is in a garage for repairs, you're telling me it would be bad business practice for the mechanics to go home after working all day instead of working until your car is fully repaired?

Pretty ridiculous expectation. It's not bad business practice. Maintenance workers have a life outside of their job. We can't expect them to work 24/7.

I am not sure where are you living? Of course I will not ask them to repair the car overtime, but I will be automatic provided loaner car or ride. That's why I mentioned fail over server.

If you wouldn't expect a mechanic to work overtime to fix your car, why would you expect maintenance works to work overtime to fix a server outage.

Just like you'd get a loaner car, you can go and play a different game. The servers get fixed when they get fixed. Severs will probably be back up in the next 12 hours. This isn't the first time a game experienced a sever outage and it won't be the last. People need to learn to relax.
Zero McDol 2023 年 6 月 8 日 下午 10:12 
引用自 LethalDiabetic-
引用自 romeodeng007

I am not sure where are you living? Of course I will not ask them to repair the car overtime, but I will be automatic provided loaner car or ride. That's why I mentioned fail over server.

If you wouldn't expect a mechanic to work overtime to fix your car, why would you expect maintenance works to work overtime to fix a server outage.

Just like you'd get a loaner car, you can go and play a different game. The servers get fixed when they get fixed. Severs will probably be back up in the next 12 hours. This isn't the first time a game experienced a sever outage and it won't be the last. People need to learn to relax.
There is no server outage though, and that's at least my point.

The servers are up and running, but the online capability for this game's is turned off. Much like the last time, the game simply needed to be reverted to the patch prior. People would still be able to play while they work on ways to fix the current patch, at their leisure. Get it?


edit:
In any case, I'll stop there and simply agree to disagree with you.
最后由 Zero McDol 编辑于; 2023 年 6 月 8 日 下午 10:13
bulery96 2023 年 6 月 8 日 下午 10:15 
why dont... we all just not spend any $ on this.. its such a big event for them clearly.. worthy of our hard earned money. instead. we just keep playing, and NOT spending a dime.. truly think that might show something to them?
ArmedGhost- 2023 年 6 月 8 日 下午 10:17 
引用自 Zero McDol
引用自 LethalDiabetic-

Bro. I have been gaming for over 20 years and server outages happen. SOCOM II, BF: Modern Combat, Splinter Cell: Omega Strain. All multiplayer games where servers went down and was not an immediate priority to the point maintenance workers stayed late. I just can't believe people are getting this upset over an outage like it's the first time in gaming history it's happened.

PSN back in 2011 was down for almost a month.
Unless you were PC gaming, console games were exclusively offline single player, in the early 2000's, with some games having online capability. Heck, I've been gaming since the late 1980's on Nintendo and plenty of others have been gaming a lot longer than that.

I mean I get what you're saying dude, but there's no excuse for this and that month long shutdown that you mentioned, shouldn't have happened, period.

The issue, is that this game is a $80 console game that just got it's online cut for a time, and as such just became a paperweight. Anyone who doesn't get it, can now deal with the fact that this $80 dollar game can die at any time for any reason with nothing more than a thank for your business from Ubisoft.


I mean, it is what it is, but there is no defense for these types of practices. Even MMO studios don't go this far.

I grew up playing Socom. Socom released in 2002 and had PvP multiplayer. Socom II released in 2003 and also had PvP multiplayer and I remember their online services having outages, especially on weekends.

I have experienced online outages before in games since PS2, some even lasted days at a time. Rainbow Six Siege a few years ago was literally unplayable for over two months because of so many people DDoS'ing. It was annoying, but I just went and played another game until it gotten straightened out. I just don't see justification over getting mad that the maintenance workers just went home for the day or saying it's bad practice. I'd find it bad practice if Ubisoft forced their workers to stay until it was fixed. They're people with lives outside of their job, we can't expect them to just work until the issue is fixed.
romeodeng007 2023 年 6 月 8 日 下午 10:19 
引用自 LethalDiabetic-
引用自 romeodeng007

I am not sure where are you living? Of course I will not ask them to repair the car overtime, but I will be automatic provided loaner car or ride. That's why I mentioned fail over server.

If you wouldn't expect a mechanic to work overtime to fix your car, why would you expect maintenance works to work overtime to fix a server outage.

Just like you'd get a loaner car, you can go and play a different game. The servers get fixed when they get fixed. Severs will probably be back up in the next 12 hours. This isn't the first time a game experienced a sever outage and it won't be the last. People need to learn to relax.

I don't think the example you gave is appropriate or even comparable, but anyway I understand your point, I won't say anymore but I will keep my opinion
ArmedGhost- 2023 年 6 月 8 日 下午 10:19 
引用自 Zero McDol
引用自 LethalDiabetic-

If you wouldn't expect a mechanic to work overtime to fix your car, why would you expect maintenance works to work overtime to fix a server outage.

Just like you'd get a loaner car, you can go and play a different game. The servers get fixed when they get fixed. Severs will probably be back up in the next 12 hours. This isn't the first time a game experienced a sever outage and it won't be the last. People need to learn to relax.
There is no server outage though, and that's at least my point.

The servers are up and running, but the online capability for this game's is turned off. Much like the last time, the game simply needed to be reverted to the patch prior. People would still be able to play while they work on ways to fix the current patch, at their leisure. Get it?


edit:
In any case, I'll stop there and simply agree to disagree with you.

I mean. I guess. IDK. It gets fixed when it gets fixed. I'll just play Cities Skylines until we can connect again.

I'll say this, if we were paying a monthly subscription fee to access the game, like Xbox Live, or WoW or PS +, if we were having to pay $X a month to play Division 2, then yeah, i'd find it ridiculous that they just called it a day, other than that, it's whatever.
最后由 ArmedGhost- 编辑于; 2023 年 6 月 8 日 下午 10:25
Zero McDol 2023 年 6 月 8 日 下午 10:23 
引用自 LethalDiabetic-
引用自 Zero McDol
Unless you were PC gaming, console games were exclusively offline single player, in the early 2000's, with some games having online capability. Heck, I've been gaming since the late 1980's on Nintendo and plenty of others have been gaming a lot longer than that.

I mean I get what you're saying dude, but there's no excuse for this and that month long shutdown that you mentioned, shouldn't have happened, period.

The issue, is that this game is a $80 console game that just got it's online cut for a time, and as such just became a paperweight. Anyone who doesn't get it, can now deal with the fact that this $80 dollar game can die at any time for any reason with nothing more than a thank for your business from Ubisoft.


I mean, it is what it is, but there is no defense for these types of practices. Even MMO studios don't go this far.

I grew up playing Socom. Socom released in 2002 and had PvP multiplayer. Socom II released in 2003 and also had PvP multiplayer and I remember their online services having outages, especially on weekends.

I have experienced online outages before in games since PS2, some even lasted days at a time. Rainbow Six Siege a few years ago was literally unplayable for over two months because of so many people DDoS'ing. It was annoying, but I just went and played another game until it gotten straightened out. I just don't see justification over getting mad that the maintenance workers just went home for the day or saying it's bad practice. I'd find it bad practice if Ubisoft forced their workers to stay until it was fixed. They're people with lives outside of their job, we can't expect them to just work until the issue is fixed.
Indeed and I get that, however, you could still play those games offline is my main point. I definitely get outages, it happens, but back then games also included offline capabilities. There were, maybe, a short list of online-only games but those were required to have that written on the box. Most though, were just online capable (pvp, maybe co-op, etc.).
Zero McDol 2023 年 6 月 8 日 下午 10:24 
引用自 LethalDiabetic-
引用自 Zero McDol
There is no server outage though, and that's at least my point.

The servers are up and running, but the online capability for this game's is turned off. Much like the last time, the game simply needed to be reverted to the patch prior. People would still be able to play while they work on ways to fix the current patch, at their leisure. Get it?


edit:
In any case, I'll stop there and simply agree to disagree with you.

I mean. I guess. IDK. It gets fixed when it gets fixed. I'll just play Cities Skylines until we can connect again.
Feel you and will be playing other games for now :steamthumbsup:. I may not like it, but it is what it is.
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