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Lazerbacon Feb 14, 2024 @ 11:14am
Sage - Agony IV - Tips
I really struggled with this one because the initial traits didn't seem that good. I made one change and he turned into a beast!

Use the other new character's Mark (Gun Guy) on the Sage. So you get the grenades, defense, regen, crit, etc... hes got lots of good traits vs Sage where it always seems like a downgrade. I went with the tried and true struggle bus special and grabbed Needles, Transfixion, Morning Star (beast of an ability), then toward the end grabbed Kugelblitz.

Sage was an absolute monster with the Gun guy's traits (forgot his name).
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Sire Feb 14, 2024 @ 12:21pm 
NOTICE: Sage is currently in the Experimental build. Things are subject to change before things go live.

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Alternatively, just go Living Bomb. The Flame Strike "Nuke" build has been reborn from the ashes!
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3034185393
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3160809332

Essentially, go Sage with Exterminator mark.
-- Use Memory Potions to get Flow (Tier 3, 6, 10), and also get Overpowered (Tier 3, 6, 10).
-- For the other tiers, get either Burn Chance or Critical Damage.
=== Double the effects of Overpowered with Reverberant Potion.
-- Get the Sage's "Increase Elemental Chance" and Exterminator's "Increase Burn Chance."
-- Once one reaches Level 24 and has a Tier 3 upgrade for Flame Strike, get Blazing Emberfall.
=== Enjoy clearing the screen of enemies, which only gets better the stronger you get!

While the build was nerfed before, I think the Sage's ability to increase burn chance (increase all elemental effect chance) helps get it back into its screen-clearing glory days. Not sure if the ability is more or less powerful than it was originally, but it clears screens and that's good enough for me!
Last edited by Sire; Feb 14, 2024 @ 12:21pm
Ulyaoth Feb 14, 2024 @ 1:31pm 
Originally posted by Sire:
I see what you did there ^^
I have to try this myself, sounds and looks very promising.

I had most of the time good results with picking a fast ability first, or picking two at once.
Not everything works though.
IMO the biggest problem is his movement speed, which can you kill in the first two minutes.

My first run with him was full Summoner with both Rings, Gloves and Necklace.
Astronomer's Orbs as starter + Spectral Fists.
I used no Mark mith him and made use of his own Traits.
Gorgon Mask + Broker's Cape + pace Setters solved the Speed Problem for me.
Shepherd's Boon was the Healing Source, every defensive Trait got scrapped instantly.
Jaeus Feb 14, 2024 @ 8:45pm 
The way I went about it was starting Transfixion and Crit vomit with it, Phantom Needles, and Lightning Strike doing the bulk of the work.
And stacking every source of Defense+Regen I could find because Sage makes Archer look like a tank.

Not sure if bug or intended, but the Ability which becomes the "Main Weapon" does not disable those Ability gloves whose name I forget. Though the value of 66% Damage on a character with free Dmg% per level is a bit reduced regardless
Ulyaoth Feb 15, 2024 @ 2:49am 
Originally posted by Sire:
So yeah, it was definetly worth a try.

On my first attempt I wanted to know how Spectral Fist gains stats from Flame Strike, which went okay in the end, but nothing impressive.
Flame Strike cant explode anymore with "Consectuive Punches"
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3161120353

The second one went similar, but felt alot more powerful.
Meteor Strike build into Fireball and Dragons breath into Stream of Fire is a nice addition for the end game, but not neccessary.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3161120417
MrQun Feb 16, 2024 @ 5:09pm 
Yes, he is indeed a monster. Just did a run on the Haunted Caverns stage and the kills and damage was insane. And it was Main Weapon Only (Transfixion).
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3162216370
Last edited by MrQun; Feb 16, 2024 @ 5:10pm
HenIchaer Mar 15, 2024 @ 10:01am 
Oh my... How do you do it, guys?) The Sage is only playable for me as a summoner. With the special rings ang gloves and so on.
My attempts to use this characher as a mage on the agony mode end quite quickly)))
timmylawless Mar 15, 2024 @ 2:42pm 
Originally posted by HenIchaer:
Oh my... How do you do it, guys?) The Sage is only playable for me as a summoner. With the special rings ang gloves and so on.
My attempts to use this characher as a mage on the agony mode end quite quickly)))


He's a very hard character to start with for sure, but once he gets going he's unstoppable.

For more consistently good runs you gotta run mark of the archer imo.
inferniac Mar 15, 2024 @ 3:17pm 
I had no luck with archer, etc. Finally did the achievment today with summoner build

https://steamcommunity.com/id/inferniac/screenshot/2416816603271746951/
MarcNote Mar 16, 2024 @ 10:37pm 
Sage with archer traits has access to the Weapon Proficiency IV +0.15/s Base Attacks for abilities, once doubled with the potion some abilities become crazy like you can't see the sage anymore
Last edited by MarcNote; Mar 16, 2024 @ 10:37pm
Wintermute Mar 17, 2024 @ 1:38pm 
I did it with Radiant Aura as weapon and Transfixion for support, though I didn't get past agony 4.

My friend got it with Krugerblitz for weapon and Archer's mark. You can stack attack speed with Archer traits to completely break KB.
Travex Apr 22, 2024 @ 7:09am 
Kugelblitz is the best weapon, ez pz
https://gyazo.com/81e8f57c52d6359fbe13ea31405f7aea
Codester Apr 22, 2024 @ 6:40pm 
Spectral fist is the best weapon for sage so long as you don't waste your time with any other ability.
If you go FULL spectral fist you are literally a god with Sage and nothing can come close to you, elites die in less than a second, boss dies before you can blink. Trick is to take NO marks at all, and do not under any circumstances grab a 2nd ability. It ruins the build because your choices are now filled with things that don't make you beyond OP.
Last edited by Codester; Apr 22, 2024 @ 6:41pm
HenIchaer Apr 22, 2024 @ 11:12pm 
Originally posted by Codester:
Spectral fist is the best weapon for sage so long as you don't waste your time with any other ability.
Have no idea, how it's possible to survive with only the fists on the last stage on agony mode.
They are powerful enough by the end of the run, but they're too slow at the very beginning.
My favorite weapon for the sage is the phantom needles) They're fast and strong from the very beginning.
Ulyaoth Apr 23, 2024 @ 12:46am 
Originally posted by HenIchaer:
Have no idea, how it's possible to survive with only the fists on the last stage on agony mode.

If you like, check "The Way of 1000 Fists"
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3172296902

The crucial part is to get "Adaption" at lvl 24, so you can upgrade the Fists with Consecutive Punches.
You want also have picked Tier II Char Abilities BEFORE lvl 24 (15-23), to make as much room as possible in your Trait Pool.


In the end, you can turn almost every Ability into a Weapon of Mass Destruction with Sage.
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