Avalanche is a joke

[mwchief]

Just did a run with only avalanche and main weapon and still wasn't able to reach avalanche mastery 3. Finished with 2,6 mil damage. It shouldn't be like that. Can we have at least somewhat balanced skills? Because currently it is worse than anything in this game.

[Clockwork Argonaut]

If you use memory potions to double up on damage/attack speed avalanche traits at each tier they're available you should be able to get the quest done, but it is definitely hard when the majority of avalanche damage is frost effect from the puddles which doesn't count towards the quest (and it's still low even with that).

[Ragox]

Meteor strike also seems really bad, I'm even struggling to get it to 1.5 mil for the first achievement. Meanwhile I'm doing around 9 mil with phantom needles without even focusing that much on it.

[Ulroxiel, Mystic of Baa]

Also get the frost blessing achievement first, and passively increase frosts damage. This game is like that, some skills are easy, others are very hard to level. I don't mind it, having to create a build to level a particular skill is fun imo. As others said, make sure to use memory potions and doubling potions to get the skill to much higher levels.

[mwchief]

Yes, I will make another run and try to double present attack/speed traits of avalanche. I was waiting for something worthwhile to double, and ended up not using potions at all

>his game is like that, some skills are easy, others are very hard to level. I don't mind it
but why does it even exist if anything would be better, it has no place in viable build, and is suitable only for challenge runs for people who want to make the game more difficult

[Ulyaoth]

Originally posted by mwchief:

but why does it even exist if anything would be better, it has no place in viable build, and is suitable only for challenge runs for people who want to make the game more difficult

If you still struggle with 3mil, assuming you have 750k and 1.5mil done:

X+X = Memory Potion
x2 = Double Potion

Beast Huntress
Weapon Proficiency - Frost Bite I-III
everything else is your choice

I - Force
II - Impact + Frequence
III - Impact
IV - Frequence
V - Impact
VI - Impact + Frequence
VII - Force
VIII - Impact + Frequence
IX - Impact x2
X - Frequence x2

You have 1 double potion and 5 memory potions left. So do whatever you want with them.
Dont pick any other ability.
Choose a stage you like, no matter if Normal or Agony.

If you want to use Frost Avalanche in a working build:

I - Frost
II - Frost
III - Waves
IV - Frost
V - Frost
VI - Waves
VII - Frost
VIII - Frost
IX - Impact
X - Waves

The amount of Frost Stacks let entiere Hordes explode.

Originally posted by Ragox:

Meteor strike also seems really bad, I'm even struggling to get it to 1.5 mil for the first achievement. Meanwhile I'm doing around 9 mil with phantom needles without even focusing that much on it.

I assume you only unlocked the 750k quest:
I - Blast + Frequency
II - Blast + Impact
III - Impact + Frequency
IV - Blast
V - Blast + Frequency + Impact
VI - Impact
VII - Blast + Frequency
VIII - Blast + Impact
IX - Impact x2 + Frequency x2
X - Blast x2

You need the maximum number of Double Potions (3) and memory Potions (8), but this build is totally overkill, so less will work as well, as long as you only pick this ability.
You can do it on every map with any character.

Good Luck,
Cheers!

[Darth Zed]

Originally posted by mwchief:

Yes, I will make another run and try to double present attack/speed traits of avalanche. I was waiting for something worthwhile to double, and ended up not using potions at all

>his game is like that, some skills are easy, others are very hard to level. I don't mind it
but why does it even exist if anything would be better, it has no place in viable build, and is suitable only for challenge runs for people who want to make the game more difficult

its pretty hard to do, managed to barely make it on non-agony haunted cavern. agony, without using my main wep and only avalanche was legitimate agony.

went norseman with beast hunter mark.
used the gloves that buff abilities, turned off my main wep, and everything else was just damage or attack speed where available.
get the ice buffing weapon proficiency and rush getting avalanche upgrades. use the dedications and proficiency on whatever feels best, but there's not really any good synergies in them with avalanche (they pretty much all buff main wep or physical damage). though getting movement speed works with berserkers boots if you use those.

i grabbed transfixtion because i figured fragile stacks would help, it seemed to get a lot of kills and steal a lot of dps but it really helped on the bosses. feel free to try it, but it should be fine without it, though bosses can be quite troublesome with avalanche alone.

you want the second avalanche upgrade, the one with the extra projectiles, not the pools.
all the pool upgrade does is spread frost effects which kill a ton of enemies without giving damage for the achievement. spend all your pots on avalanche's main upgrades, avoid the frost chance, heck banish it asap. i only had one double pot which i used on a damage up, but i had some of the lock-in pots to get damage and speed on the same level.

[Kareshna]

Let's be real, that ability is just totally rotten, just did a run with only avalanche, disabled auto attack, almost all points in avalanche and supports for it and only 1,2 M damage with 7 minuts to go in haunted cavern, that's really really bad.

[Ulyaoth]

Originally posted by Kareshna:

Let's be real, that ability is just totally rotten, just did a run with only avalanche, disabled auto attack, almost all points in avalanche and supports for it and only 1,2 M damage with 7 minuts to go in haunted cavern, that's really really bad.

In terms of raw damage the ability is very bad for sure.

But it makes a very good suport skill with the slow upgrade and as frost application.
If pushed full on frost, it can explode hordes of enemies before they even reach you.

[Zentaki]

Originally posted by Ragox:

Meteor strike also seems really bad, I'm even struggling to get it to 1.5 mil for the first achievement. Meanwhile I'm doing around 9 mil with phantom needles without even focusing that much on it.

doing right you can get over 17 mil for phantom needles.

Really seems that avalanche indeed is a joke, too slow, dmg too low , plus the projectiles from it is very odd just spitting in diagonals , it should have an upgrade for it to be fired in the four straight directions so it would cover more area.

Another weird thing is that the upgrade for the breath to get knock back just does not work at all. Very disappointing.

[aucran]

A good fix for Avalanche would be to increase the knock back with talents to let it act as a shield from enemies getting too close too fast. Then it would be almost mandatory for AFK builds.

[Schizophriend]

Originally posted by mwchief:

Yes, I will make another run and try to double present attack/speed traits of avalanche. I was waiting for something worthwhile to double, and ended up not using potions at all

>his game is like that, some skills are easy, others are very hard to level. I don't mind it
but why does it even exist if anything would be better, it has no place in viable build, and is suitable only for challenge runs for people who want to make the game more difficult

I also have yet to do this quest, but here's 2 small hints I can give you:

-the 9th and 10th upgrade for abilities have double the effect! So you should upgrade Avalanche all the way up to level 8 and when you get the final 2 traits, use the double flask on them, basically giving you 4 times the effect you'd normally get. And only do it on a damage or attack speed upgrade for Avalanche

-you could try getting the Beast Huntress mark, its weapon proficiency trait can increase your total ice damage. If I'm not wrong, this also increases Avalanche damage. Especially the 4th weapon proficiency upgrade, which gives 30% ice damage. With a double flask you can make it 60%!

Unfortunately it takes a while to get to all of these strong traits. But it might be worth, just for this quest alone. Also, maybe unlock the ice affinity trait from the Norseman quest first. And maybe play with Spellcaster Gloves?

[DistenZ]

Difficult indeed. Just did it after many tries in haunted cavern normal, and barely got it at 00.04. Did it with norseman and can never get to high lvl enough to get upgrades IX and X so you can actually double 3 effects from lower ranks upgrades.

[Mr. No_Effs_Given]

Garbage level skill, simple as that. Needs a good buff, don't see anybody using that except for getting the achievement. Weird that Flame Strike, another garbo skill, only requires 2 million for the chievo, interesting.

[mwchief]

finally got this achievement on first map with only couple of minutes left. Used double potions on early levels, and it was right decision, because I didn’t get level 9 and 10 of this skill.

I was sure Avalanche is the worst ability in game, until I unlocked Spirit Warrior :)

[Mr. No_Effs_Given]

Originally posted by mwchief:

finally got this achievement on first map with only couple of minutes left. Used double potions on early levels, and it was right decision, because I didn’t get level 9 and 10 of this skill.

I was sure Avalanche is the worst ability in game, until I unlocked Spirit Warrior :)

Nah, Avalanche is indeed the worst. There's a guy who posted a build where you can get over 17 million damage with Spirit Warrior. Have yet to see a build that causes that much damage with Avalanche.