Weirdness in Cemetary Gates

[sheehanje]

Cemetary Gates is a song I knew a long time ago and haven't played in 10 - 15 years. I decided to brush it off in Rocksmith 2014, but there is some strange things in it.

My Path is set to lead guitar. During the intro I noticed a lick a few measures in that I've never even heard in the song. There is also a lot of parts either not fully fleshed out (Chorus) or not there at all (outro leads)....

I noticed this in "Every Breath you Take" also - there are leads added that just aren't there. To be honest, they break the continuity of the song and are annoying.

Anyone else noticing these anomolies? I know no transcription is perfect, but these are blantant and even the novice transcriptions on the internet don't do stuff like this.

[wraith7201]

I haven't noticed this yet. I have noticed on some songs that Rocksmith charting has actually made me aware of parts that I never really "heard" before, but I have not yet seen any where there are parts charted that don't exist.

[jacobvandy]

I talked a little about this in another thread about lead vs. rhythm, and I agree some of the arrangements are a bit strange. What the devs have done is gone through each song and decided which guitar parts belong in which category, and so each chart will be ONLY those parts, even if the band only has one guitarist. So in that case it would be simulating the different tracks that are combined into a final recording, but if you tried to play the lead arrangement by yourself in a live performance, it would be sorely lacking. I'm sure what you did back in the day when you learned the song was include both lead and rhythm parts, depending on what is most prominent at any one point in the song. Many RS1 tracks had such combined arrangements, but they took them out with 2014, sadly.

What you're noticing that you never did before, are little licks and other flair that are part of the recording, but might be mixed way in the background and so are barely audible when other guitar parts are louder. They've decided that the lead guitarist is always the one responsible for such things, and so that's what you get to play on that path. Even though you would just leave that stuff out if you were really trying to play the song on your own. But hey, it gives you two versions of every song to learn and play!

[givemeanamedammit]

Haven't really looked at the lead for Cemetery Gates; but if the you mean the outro lead parts as in the trem-assisted harmonics at the end, that's probably why they're not there - you just can't do them without riding a double locking trem hard.

[sheehanje]

I kinda figured the outro parts were like that because of the trem. It would just be nice to have those parts as an option for those of us that do have a locking trem (although tuning would be an issue for those with a locking nut)...

As far as the arrangement, maybe it would be idea to go through it rythm first then go back and change my path to lead... I know Rocksmith is doing things different, but at times it would be nice to have the tab/sheet music in front of me to look over parts I'm having issue with. Is this even an option? Even slowed down, some of the lead parts are hard to nail using the note highway. Maybe I'm just not giving it enough of a chance - after all it's only the 3rd or 4th song I've attempted - and Dimebag's stuff isn't exactly amatuerish....

[jacobvandy]

You're going to love Riff Repeater. Press space at any time during a song to bring up the menu, there are tons of options to mess with including mastery (i.e. difficulty, how many notes they throw at you) and speed. You can do this for the entire song or individual sections, and also toggle whether or not it will automatically step up your difficulty every time you do a run with little to no mistakes.

[sheehanje]

I have used riff repeater and it drives me nuts, lol. It does help, but after years of working with sheet music and tab, my brain is just wired that way. Not saying riff repeater is bad, just I'm used to nailing things down quicker with tab.... I'll get the hang of it...

[wraith7201]

I've been using tab for as long as I can remember playing, which is going on 25 years. It took me a while to get used to the notation in Rocksmith, but now that I am, I find it just as easy to use as tab, and in many cases, it's more expressive than traditional tab.

[sheehanje]

Ok - so I switched my career path to Rythm and things started making a whole lot more sense.

My band is getting back together as a tribute to our old bass player that just passed away and this is one of the songs we planned on playing. So in order to get it playable live, I think the best strategy is to do rythm first - and then switch to lead and just riff repeat the solo parts I'm going to do and leave the rest alone.. I am the only guitarist in the band - so the Rocksmith arrangement would be really off in a live setting...

if worse comes to worse I will just dig out the tab - but really would like to use Rocksmith as a tool for this.