Rocksmith 2014 Timing and String Errors.

[Elliot]

I am an advanced guitarist and bought this program to give it a test to see if it's worth getting for my school, to help children get interested in guitar.

I am currently on Foo Fighters Everlong (100%) and the song always says that I miss notes on certain parts, unless I push the beat (playing before I should be). It seems that the very second the note should be played is where the cut of point is for when "miss" shows up.

My latency in the game is set at 2 (1 was crackly and non-workable). I have a top end 4000 series I7, so CPU strength is not my problem.

Does anyone know how I can contact Rocksmith support, of does anyone have an answer? Playing in-front of the beat is the worse thing a guitarist can do, and playing just behind the beat can often sound "lazy" but in a good way. So why then is Rocksmith forcing me to play in-front of the beat?

Thanks for any help received

P.S. My guitar is an American Strat Deluxe, and I have the bridge flat to the body (due to playing in a variety of tunings) and the intonation is set up to within 5 cents at the 12th fret.

[grimlog]

If RS would have this problem, it would show up everywhere, not only on certain parts in a certain song. That's a hint, that you aren't playing on beat even though you think you are. Do you play to the music or are you looking at the "note highway" to get the timing right? I know, you said you're an advanced guitarist. To be honest, I have heard many advanced guitarists with horrible timing. Not saying, you are one of those. But RS works just fine for me, timing wise :)

[grimlog]

You mentioned your CPU, which is way better than mine, so we can say for sure, that this isn't causing your problem. What's your other setup? Do play play over HDMI-Audio? How are your speakers connected? Maybe some other detail of your setup causes additional latency. Videocard?

[Elliot]

grimlog, I appreciate your help. I have seen that excuse about rocksmith in quite a few places. If rocksmith is wihout fault, then why if I play 50-100 ms before the beat do I get 100%? If my timing was the problem, how is it that I can play "100% perfect" by rocksmiths standards if I want to. Also, sometimes if i made a mistake it registers as right... so rocksmith is a world away from being perfect. Afterall, it's analog input not digital. If you are so sure yours work fine, can you please try everlong at 100% on solo guitar and let me know how it goes for you? Even when i play it at 60% speed (which is very slow) it still has the same problem, and it is really evident that i have to play before the beat.)

I have just flipped the switch to the rhythm section, it doesn't even register an A major sometimes when played at the 5th fret, but works fine when played as an open A. The rhythms are written down as different voicings than what is clearly being played on the track. My guitar is pretty much close to pitch perfect (only just re-did the intonation for Rocksmith), and no I am not bending my strings out (so says a poly and also inbuilt tuner).


It seems to me like rocksmith is a great game, and good to get newbies interested but hasn't got anything against a teacher (my job is safe!) or something like lick library or standard notation in my opinion.

However, the backing track part could be kinda cool for the kids to practice their scales. Will have to wait for it to go on sale! thanks again!

P.S. There is no latency on the sound output of my guitar, or rather it must be 50ms or under as I trully can't distuingish it. my graphics card is a gtx 780ti, and the cable is plugged straight into the motherboard.

[rcole_sooner]

Sounds like you have audio lag.

As said above audio lag is a common issue when playing audio via HDMI.

Some HDMI processors (TVs, AVRs, etc) have game modes that eiminate lag, others do not.

One solution is to run analog audio side by side with HDMI video.

The game registers notes and chords correctly. As many folks have hit 100% of the notes on all versions of the vast majority of the songs.

The game itself .... well has a certain amount of gaminess to it. It is a really fun way to play guitar. I've played guitar for years. It took me a while to get used to the RS interface. It is not perfect, but it works pretty well. Not a complete learning tool, but fun way to play guitar.


Get rid of any lag in your system. Timing is key to getting things to register, so lag is your enemy.

Use the lessons to learn the "Rocksmith" way of playing the note/chord techniques. There are some idiosyncrasies to some techniques (like having to hit the original note of a bend and hold it for a brief moment before bending).

[905]

Could it also be that you are leaving a lot of other things running on you machine? It kinda sounds like it is taking the game a while to recongize what you are playing. That is another reason playing early might be helping you get the note. And you are sure you aren't pressing down too hard on the strings. That will throw the pitch off enough for RS to be slow to register or not register notes at all.

There is always the possiblity that the song is wrong in a few spots. Have you played anything else at 100% and seen the problem? I Think I've only gotten everlong up to the 80s. I've never noticed a timing issue, but my sound goes through a 20 foot optical cable to a surroen sound system.

[grimlog]

RS isn't perfect of course. You can trick it in many ways to register chords or notes you really didn't play right - like Amaj Open when Amaj on 5th fret is asked for, playing powerchords only, maybe with the 3rd, not 7th/9th... or doing hammer-ons instead of (short) slides or bends. Also, just because it works fine for me timing wise, doesn't mean that your timing is off when this fails for you. I mentioned this, because we get quite some posts here, how bad RS is at registering things and in the end it's the player's fault more often than not. Please don't feel offended. I just want to make sure you are absolutely certain, that your timing is good :) The timing in "Everlong" works for me, as it does in any other song. There's a guide in the guides section about setting up RS. Have you already looked at that?

[Mukatahren]

Everlong is a ♥♥♥♥♥ for timing. It used to be easier but the devs changed it because they thought it was too easy. I've played this song a gazillion times and the timing is virtually impossible since they 'tweaked' it. It is either way too unforgiving or it is simply wrong. This is not a latency issue with your rig, it is Everlong.

[Pleazard]

Suggestion: Use RS to Tab tool to see the tab in guitar pro and see if the actual tablature is messy in this song.