Rocksmith+ Millions of Songs?

[Castor Troy]

Did anyone see this quote on the Rocksmith website?

https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/rocksmith/plus/game-detail

"The PC Closed Beta will start with a large amount of songs and grow rapidly each week. By the time we launch we'll have thousands of songs and in the years to come we'll have millions more which span all countries and genres."

In years to come they will have "MILLIONS" of songs. I have no idea how this can be true unless they cut a deal with Spotify or something. But if true, this is incredible. The subscription seems like good value if there are MILLIONS of songs, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.

[nauxous]

I seriously doubt they will have millions of songs.

You might have access to the existing library and DLC from RS and RS 2014 at the start.

Plus, each song needs to be transcribed, have the right sounds added, and tested for accuracy. You are probably only likely going to get a handful of new songs each week at best, and not always the ones you want.

I suspect that they have probably agreed royalty payments with the artists (similar to something like spotify - which would explain the subscription model) rather than a one off licence fee.

As I don't play that often, I certainly can't justify paying a monthly subscription.

[alexcustos]

Ubi managed to license all those songs for streaming like Spotify. And yes, they mentioned that it would be AI-generated chord charts, with a workshop where the community is supposed to create and publish their arrangements. Ubi will validate them and maybe releasing charts itself at the same rate as for RS2014, but it's not clear yet.

[nauxous]

Ah... so people can upload custom tracks and the record companies can effectively copyright claim that for streaming royalties and Ubi will have more content without doing much work.

Very sneaky, but a genius move.

[Castor Troy]

You guys think there is any chance we finally get Metallica?

[nauxous]

I guess we will have to wait and see if their asking price has been met. They have been pretty protective with their songs so far, along with bands such as guns n roses, led zep etc.

[Paladin]

Check whom they have partnered with. The entire Gibson line of products which gives them access to the Gibson sponsored artists. I suspect that it also gives them access to the gibson family of owners. This is a great move by UBI in my opinion. And consider this it's about $100/year for the subscription and if you substitute buying on guitar you have 3-4 or more years of use of the tool. I can't wait for the update.

[Castor Troy]

Originally posted by Paladin:

Check whom they have partnered with. The entire Gibson line of products which gives them access to the Gibson sponsored artists. I suspect that it also gives them access to the gibson family of owners. This is a great move by UBI in my opinion. And consider this it's about $100/year for the subscription and if you substitute buying on guitar you have 3-4 or more years of use of the tool. I can't wait for the update.

"Gibson sponsored artists." "Look who they've partnered with."

Gibson made a custom Tool guitar for Adam Jones....

dumbanddumber.gif SO YOU'RE TELLIN ME THERE'S A CHANCE?!?!?!?!?!

[Octo]

Originally posted by Paladin:

Check whom they have partnered with. The entire Gibson line of products which gives them access to the Gibson sponsored artists. I suspect that it also gives them access to the gibson family of owners. This is a great move by UBI in my opinion. And consider this it's about $100/year for the subscription and if you substitute buying on guitar you have 3-4 or more years of use of the tool. I can't wait for the update.

I just bought a Les Paul Studio to use with Rocksmith. This interests me.

[Castor Troy]

Originally posted by Ghost:

and if you can't afford to pay the subscription or they change the game then you have zero songs

It seems the same as Spotify. In Spotify you have basically all the songs in the world. If you cancel, you have nothing. Yes, there's youtube and whatever else but you get my point. It's the convenience of it. If they are able to put in WAY more songs than we had with original Rocksmith and it's all included, it seems like a better situation to me, especially if they can get bigger artists using this model.

[Restless Diesel]

Originally posted by Castor Troy:

Originally posted by Ghost:

and if you can't afford to pay the subscription or they change the game then you have zero songs

It seems the same as Spotify. In Spotify you have basically all the songs in the world. If you cancel, you have nothing. Yes, there's youtube and whatever else but you get my point. It's the convenience of it. If they are able to put in WAY more songs than we had with original Rocksmith and it's all included, it seems like a better situation to me, especially if they can get bigger artists using this model.

This sort of thing might even be better for me. I have quite a few songs that I've purchased, and either never played or played just once and moved on. I can see myself maybe going the year route for $100, and then reevaluating to see if I want to re-up.

[spencer]

Originally posted by Ghost:

and if you can't afford to pay the subscription or they change the game then you have zero songs

"Zero stones, zero crates!"

[Aribad]

Chords only songs?
-No thanks, even for free.
Community made songs?
-♥♥♥♥ tabs, ♥♥♥♥ tones, ♥♥♥♥ volume levels.
Lots of Songs?
-How? How? There's no way. Having an AI that can give chords doesn't make the process any faster. Making tabs (solos!) and tones takes ton of work. Unless they have some next level improvements it's not gonna be more than 10 songs a week. And if they make them simple and/or simplify the solos i'll refund.

[Restless Diesel]

A legit drawback I can think of is no offline play option. I know that wherever I take my MacBook, cable, and guitar, I can play if I have limited (or no) bandwidth. This is the case where I work. I like to practice at work when I have the time, and sub only won't be available there. However, I still have RS14R as long as it plays. Plus youtube videos.

[Patcoola]

The "millions" of songs will be from Rocksmith Workshop

[Patcoola]

Originally posted by thejohnnewton:

The millions refers to millions being licensed. As far as arrangements go they do want to have an AI chord chart for each one at minimum. For detailed charts done by Ubisoft they do have a much larger transcription team now but sure they won't be creating a million anytime soon. They mentioned maybe 50 a week (casually mentioned guess to start) so that's adding 2600 a year. The community created charts who knows? And if they are successful would they hire even more transcribers? Would the AI improve and be able to make more detailed charts or give the transcribers a head start? Will a group of talented non-employee charters create high quality workshop charts? Who knows? But it all starts with getting legal licenses.

I don't know where you are getting your information, there is no million licensed songs, nor will they ever license that many. They are talking about Rocksmith Workshop.