This game needs a tab mode

[nauxous]

It's all very well progressing through a song bit by bit to learn the parts, but it gets very tedious having to stop/start that many times when you don't know a song that well.

I just haven't had the time to learn the majority of the songs (even for those that I purchased).

They should give you an option to view the entire song in tab form on screen so you can learn the parts at your own pace. You would then be able to revert to playing the regular game to perfect your timings.

This way, you would be able to learn more songs quicker and may even buy more dlc.

I have no idea why they didn't do this.

[MTZIGG]

http://www.rocksmithtotab.de/2016/08/08/rocksmithtotab-back-on-sourceforge/

[Eagles Fly]

"...learn the parts at your own pace"
What do you think the riff repeater is for?
It's better than tab, it highlights your mistakes, it auto repeats a section according to your criteria and so on.
You want to play the whole song in one go? Just reduce the speed to whatever suits you and go.
Wanting a tab feature in this is like asking for black and white in a world of color.

[nauxous]

I do understand the premise of the riff repeater and I do like it. I just think that the game would benefit by having addtional learning options. There is a reason for tab notation for being as successful as it is.

Being a rubbish player/learner, do you know how many times the same segment would have to be repeated before it gets irritating? It feels like you are learning your licks live, but with the entire band having to stop and start just for you.

I don't think there is any difference to the satisfaction you get from learning a song just because you used one method over another.

To say that tabs are redundant is like saying we no longer have any need for maps because of satalite navigation. People still like to see and plan for what lies ahead.

I bought Rocksmith in order to jam along to tracks, and the developers should ideally cram as many learning methods into the game in order to get you to the point where you can and start having some fun.

[woof]

Look at the link MTZIGG provided. If you want the tabs, you can generate them. Sure it would be easier if it was already included, but its not and its probably not going to show up in an update.

[EarthRockerR]

I with ya nauxous but there are so many other resources for tab. Download the Ultimate Guitar Tab app and look up rough tabs of the songs your trying to learn. Everyone learns differently and for me, seeing full bars in tablature form is the only way the songs stick in my head along with playing them relentlessly month after month, year after year.

[sumhavok]

It would be hard to integrate a tab mode. I wish they could figure out a way, and include standard notation too. However, as others have already stated, there are plenty of other resources.


Best bet is to follow Zigg’s link, convert your DLC into tabs and use "Guitar Pro 7.5" to practice.

https://www.guitar-pro.com/en/index.php

If you do not want to pay for software try "Tux Guitar." It’s basically a free version of Guitar Pro 5 without the real tone sounds.

http://www.tuxguitar.com.ar/

Another option is Presonus' "Notion;" it plays guitar pro tabs well, and is a great notation editor to boot.

https://www.presonus.com/products/Notion

Good luck, have fun with RS and alternatives.

[MTZIGG]

Originally posted by sumhavok:

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I was looking at the presonus do you have reviews are split and have yet to ba able to make up my mind . I have GP7 Any thoughts ?

[sumhavok]

Originally posted by MTZIGG:

Originally posted by sumhavok:

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I was looking at the presonus do you have reviews are split and have yet to ba able to make up my mind . I have GP7 Any thoughts ?

I have demoed the Presonus for five years, with needing the abilty to interface using a stylus on a tablet being key. It took them a long time, but, for the most part, they finally got it. I bit the bullet this year and finally dumped Makemusic's Finale after almost two decades of use (their same old Garritan orchestral sounds after all these years are so stale....).

You can demo Notion, but I think you have to make an account with Presonus first. The demo is basically full featured, you just can't save anything.

Another neat thing is you can enter notes on a guitar fretboard.

Bottom line, for practice GP7 is better. For scoring Notion is easier.

This is kind of off topic but check out Roli's Equator...it blows any sample library away for "having fun" playing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xl5jHoSwmM

I don't use a "seaboard," instead I use a lightpad block and an Artiphon.

[MTZIGG]

@sumhavok
thanks didnt know there was a demo .
GP was ,is going to icorperate entering notes on a guitar fretboard.Ive yet to see this .I started out with GP4.

[sumhavok]

Originally posted by thejohnnewton:

Originally posted by MTZIGG:

I was looking at the presonus do you have reviews are split and have yet to ba able to make up my mind . I have GP7 Any thoughts ?

I use Notion but it's mainly because I also use Studio One and they work together (they are from the same company.) I don't think there is a huge difference between Notion and GP7 for what we are using it for here. I should probably mention I've only used Notion for standard notation. I don't really use tabs much.

I agree. I would say that Notion replicates Guitar Pro 7 very well for enhanced guitar scoring features. For the most part, Finale lacks this because they are still using a decades old interface - which I used to love. Today, however, Notion is more streamlined to my liking over alternative notation programs. Some might argue that Notion is still a lightweight, but for my needs, it's fine.

[É O Potter]

The problem is that the game offers NO way to manually slide through the notes when its "paused".

I like Riff Repeater, however i wish there was a 0% speed kind of thing (aka TABs). Sometimes going too slow becomes too annoying, so i'd better off just "pause" and SEE what the heck I'm supposed to play.

[MTZIGG]

Originally posted by Lucas Pottersky:

The problem is that the game offers NO way to manually slide through the notes when its "paused".

I like Riff Repeater, however i wish there was a 0% speed kind of thing (aka TABs). Sometimes going too slow becomes too annoying, so i'd better off just "pause" and SEE what the heck I'm supposed to play.

you can fast forward reverse and freeze RR with your arrow keys hit esc while in RR not perfect but works

[Foxjade14]

I think that would be a great idea. I feel like I can't play the song outside of Rocksmith even after I've used the Riff repeater. Beinga ble to have the song laid out in tab, would help me be able to piece it together without all the effects thrown on top to improve technique. I know the rstotab is a thing, but at that point, its easier to just go to ultimate-guitar and find guitar pro tabs and just go about playing that way. I think it'd be nicer to have in game, as the way the notes come at you in game, can be a bit overwhelming.

[IImayneII]

Originally posted by Eagles Fly:

"...learn the parts at your own pace"
What do you think the riff repeater is for?
It's better than tab, it highlights your mistakes, it auto repeats a section according to your criteria and so on.
You want to play the whole song in one go? Just reduce the speed to whatever suits you and go.
Wanting a tab feature in this is like asking for black and white in a world of color.

Defenitly not better than tabs. RS makes you learn mainly by sight-reading. My biggest issue is that there is no way to see a complete section, you have to wait to go trough every section to see what notes to play and makes it tedious. With tabs you can actually view the section you have issues with and play it in one go, pick out what you have trouble with, instead of looping trough RS sections. If they really wanted you to learn trough RS they should have fleshed out the system more imo. Like selecting one specific part in a section of a song, or see the tabs of one section.

[IImayneII]

Originally posted by thejohnnewton:

Originally posted by IImayneII:

Defenitly not better than tabs. RS makes you learn mainly by sight-reading. My biggest issue is that there is no way to see a complete section, you have to wait to go trough every section to see what notes to play and makes it tedious. With tabs you can actually view the section you have issues with and play it in one go, pick out what you have trouble with, instead of looping trough RS sections. If they really wanted you to learn trough RS they should have fleshed out the system more imo. Like selecting one specific part in a section of a song, or see the tabs of one section.

So it seems one thing you want is the ability to set your own start and end points to loop through in RR rather than the pre determined sections? You do know you can select specific sections from the pre defined ones right?

As for notation, tabs, RS, standard notation, all have pros and cons. Sure it would be cool to have the option of all of those.

Not sure what you mean, but I meant selecting a difficult riff based on the actual riff (notes) and not on the song secions. If I have trouble with a small riff inside a section I have to loop trough the entire section to learn it instead of just being able to practice the specific riff. Wich extends practice time for absolutely no reason. I don't want to waste time practicing what I can already play just to get to the small part I have difficulties with. That's the opposite of good practice.

Similarly for longer fast paced parts. I have to loop trough it painfully slow because I can't see the riff in one glance. This would be much better if you could actually just chose the specific notes instead of looping trough the whole section. And yes, you can adjust mastery so its fewer notes, but then i'm not learning the actual riff and could be potentially learning it with the wrong techniques.