is there a way to not have to tune for different songs? Auto Tuner?

[Psycho Raptor (ChaoticallyCalm)]

What i mean is lets say taking standard E tuning. and when the tuning is changed it simply just takes it as if you tuned to that tuning. Kinda like auto tuner, except for guitar, for rocksmith. So again standard tuning for E then not having to drop down the sting to get to Drop D, or any other tuning, since its based of the fact your in standard tuning, it compensates for the alter tuning, saving strings, time, and playing time.

[Cataleya22 (⁠ᵔ⁠ᴥ⁠ᵔ)]

No, maybe with a drop pedal in between (there was another topic about it) or using a capo (but would need you know music theory) or get two guitars, one tuned normal, one tuned different.

[Psycho Raptor (ChaoticallyCalm)]

Originally posted by ꧁☬⋆Cata༒leya22⋆☬꧂:

No, maybe with a drop pedal in between (there was another topic about it) or using a capo (but would need you know music theory) or get two guitars, one tuned normal, one tuned different.

Was hoping for a in game synthesizer that would just take standard tuning and adjust the frequencies to the tuning of the song. Thank you for the response, i did the two guitars. but just want to play the game, learn the chords, i mean I should use the time tuning to tune by ear. but wanting to play the game and when those times when you hit the right string at the right time, but wasn't accepted as the right note due to it just not accepting what it told you to do, is frustrating. this minor but definitely affecting IN game performance, seems that it could be elevated if the game it self would just make you tune to E, and then if each songs different tuning (yeah hitting the strings if heard will sound bad if not covered by having headphones.) The idea would be just like if you tuned it to that tuning so all the chords would match up, almost like a guitar hero controller only a real guitar.

well i know what im trying to say, dont think im explaining it perfect. Point is hoping math and music theory and programming (which no im not good at. :) )

Game, guitar practice, not having to tune every song when someone suggests or wants to try playing the game. Anyway thanks for responding.

[alexcustos]

@Psycho Raptor (ChaoticallyCalm) Actually, you can. RSMods and Digitech Whammy DT (can be controlled by MIDI) will do the job. But it's probably not worth it. It's better to sort songs by tuning and stick with one tuning for a while. And yes, if you want to down tune the guitar below DropD, you might want to consider Digitech The Drop pedal to not mess with intonation every time you change tuning.

[𝙿𝚘́𝚕]

I got my first electric guitar specifically for Rocksmith. I found it on my local freecycle website and It cost me nothing. After I learned how to set it up it plays just as nicely as any other guitar I've got since. The same old Stagg Strat model goes on ebay for around £30/€$ - I doubt you'll find any pitch shifting device as cheap or effective as a second(hand) guitar.

I sort my songs by last played and keep them grouped by tuning by playing them together. I use my standard tuned guitar for drop D because that's no effort to go back and forth. I leave my other guitar in whatever tuning it was last played in; usually Eb.

Most irksome are the songs slightly off pitch from standard tunings. I tend not to play them so much

[Cataleya22 (⁠ᵔ⁠ᴥ⁠ᵔ)]

Originally posted by Psycho Raptor (ChaoticallyCalm):

Originally posted by ꧁☬⋆Cata༒leya22⋆☬꧂:

No, maybe with a drop pedal in between (there was another topic about it) or using a capo (but would need you know music theory) or get two guitars, one tuned normal, one tuned different.

but wanting to play the game and when those times when you hit the right string at the right time, but wasn't accepted as the right note due to it just not accepting what it told you to do, is frustrating. this minor but definitely affecting IN game performance,.

If i understand this correctly :) you get misses when you play the correct note/fret etc, when having retuned (or also on normal)?

It might just be your tuning is off, theres a extra tuner in the settings which is more accurate then the defauilt one. Might want to give it a try,

Also it could be you are using old strings, at some point they get out of tune because of time and wear. Getting new ones can definitely help.
This can also be affected by a off set intonation, you might check yourself, but if youre new at this i recommend going to a shop and let them check, then you could also let them restring it.

[𝙿𝚘́𝚕]

Originally posted by ꧁☬⋆Cata༒leya22⋆☬꧂:

Originally posted by Psycho Raptor (ChaoticallyCalm):

but wanting to play the game and when those times when you hit the right string at the right time, but wasn't accepted as the right note due to it just not accepting what it told you to do, is frustrating. this minor but definitely affecting IN game performance,.

If i understand this correctly :) you get misses when you play the correct note/fret etc, when having retuned (or also on normal)?

It might just be your tuning is off, theres a extra tuner in the settings which is more accurate then the defauilt one. Might want to give it a try,

This can also be affected by a off set intonation, you might check yourself, but if youre new at this i recommend going to a shop and let them check, then you could also let them restring it.

Oh, I missed what you said about notes missing! - ꧁☬⋆Cata༒leya22⋆☬꧂'s advice about checking intonation is spot on!

I struggled with notes missing for about a year before I realised it wasn't just my own bad technique or cheap guitar. It was so frustrating, I even bought a 'better' guitar but still the notes kept missing.

I had two main problems that compounded each other.
1- The big in-game tuner at the start of songs is crap! It's only useful as guide for alternative tunings. Focus on the mini-tuner in the pause screen to dial the pitch in closer, it's way more accurate!
2- Both my guitars were poorly setup with bad intonation and pickups that were too close to the strings - As a complete beginner this was something I hadn't a clue to even check or consider! but it's essential for Rocksmith to "work how it oughta!"

Check your intonation with the mini-tuner by pressing down gently at the 12th fret. Each string should be equally in tune both open and fretted. if not, then you should be able to adjust the bridge saddle with a fine screwdriver or hex key. Lengthen the string by moving the saddle away from the nut if it's sharp or shorten it the other way if it measures flat.

Having my pickups too high also caused issues with their magnets subtly pulling on the strings as they vibrated. This significantly interfered with their pitch. (the tuner would wobble all over the place)

Rocksmith is super fussy about calibration and pitch so with that in mind I'd suggest that knowing how to do basic guitar setup, checks and maintenance is as essential as checking the tyres, oil and putting fuel in a car. Since I learned what all the little screws and adjustments on the instrument are for, all of my guitars now work with Rocksmith flawlessly. I'm confident that every note I miss is my own fault!

There are plenty of YT videos on guitar setup but I particularly recommend this one on Paul Davids channel - https://youtu.be/aAyDdbNldig

[KellyR]

To be honest, I do rather wish Rocksmith had an "emulated tuning" option that would just have you tune to E standard and then transpose your strings accordingly. If it can transpose guitar to emulate bass, it should be able to emulate tunings. At least simple ones like E standard vs E flat.

Like I get that emulating Drop D and other tunings that aren't just E Standard transposed would be more or less impossible, but like E and E flat covers half the songs in the game at least :D

[Cataleya22 (⁠ᵔ⁠ᴥ⁠ᵔ)]

I know this is called a game in some sorts, but its more for learning guitar. The emulatiing to bass is completely different than too another tuning.
But then again why ? You dont want to learn that way, you want it easy > Guitar playing isnt easy. And its about learning..... also heard of learning by ear?
If the program does everything for youm how would you know what its like in real time?
Thats why its still better to do it the manual way

Oh and did you know the game has its own tone designers, like amps, pedals, etc etc.
you might want to try those a bit, just saying.

[KellyR]

Originally posted by ꧁☬⋆Cata༒leya22⋆☬꧂:

I know this is called a game in some sorts, but its more for learning guitar. The emulatiing to bass is completely different than too another tuning.
But then again why ? You dont want to learn that way, you want it easy > Guitar playing isnt easy. And its about learning..... also heard of learning by ear?
If the program does everything for youm how would you know what its like in real time?
Thats why its still better to do it the manual way

Oh and did you know the game has its own tone designers, like amps, pedals, etc etc.
you might want to try those a bit, just saying.

There's literally no difference for the player whether the game transposes or you retune. The fingering and frets would be identical.

Again, only talking about tunings that match your current tuning, but are just uniformly higher or lower. E vs E flat, for example. To tune from E to E flat--or vice-versa, you tune all the strings a half step down--or up.

You're not learning anything by changing the tuning each time you move from a song tuned for E to a song tuned for E flat, or from E flat to E. It's just time consumed and wasted on a task the program could just simulate for you.

The only drawback would be that the acoustic sound of your strings would be different from the amplified sound from the computer, but that's pretty unimportant... I don't think many people pay attention to the acoustic sounds from their electrics when playing. Heck, I assume most people play with the volume up high enough they can't hear the purely acoustic sound.

So yeah, I think it would be great if it were in there as an option, so I could more quickly get to practicing and learning a song, with less time wasted retuning.

Like, I could tune for E flat, and then just capo and move everything down a fret when switching to songs with a standard tuning, but I mean... It would be better if the game just did it :D

[KellyR]

Originally posted by thejohnnewton:

It’s good to learn to tune your instrument. It’s part of learning to play.

What's to learn? Tuning isn't hard or anything, especially given the game gives you a tuner display. Turn knob until note is correct, repeat.

That's not something you need to practice constantly.

Anyway, I realized that my old Zoom G1 effects pedal has pitch shift in it, so I set up a half step pitch shift on it, and now I can do all the E and E flat songs without retuning at least.

And Drop D is just a one string tuning, so that gives me the vast majority of songs with little or no retuning.

[Fncanuk]

For a game that is supposed to teach guitar, it was probably considered best if new people didn't have to rely on the game to tune their guitar. Sounds like it would make an awesome mod though. I admit to skipping learning some songs simply because of the tuning lol

[alexcustos]

Originally posted by thejohnnewton:

Originally posted by KellyR:

What's to learn? Tuning isn't hard or anything, especially given the game gives you a tuner display. Turn knob until note is correct, repeat.

That's not something you need to practice constantly.

Some people seem to fear it. The more you do something the more comfortable you become with it.

Yeah, as well as changing strings and cleaning up the guitar. If you are good at this, at least someone may hire you as a guitar technique

[KellyR]

Originally posted by alexcustos:

Originally posted by thejohnnewton:

Some people seem to fear it. The more you do something the more comfortable you become with it.

Yeah, as well as changing strings and cleaning up the guitar. If you are good at this, at least someone may hire you as a guitar technique :lunar2020gigglemonkey:

I literally built my own strat from blocks of raw wood. I've taken solid body guitar construction classes twice. I can set up a guitar, truss rod adjustment, intonation, all of that is no sweat.

So tuning is just an annoyance I don't want to have to waste time on, basically. I honestly can't imagine being intimidated by tuning.

I do often skip songs that I don't want to retune for. It's got nothing to do with being intimidated by tuning though, and everything to do with not wanting to have to spend the time retuning.



The super strat I built, for anyone curious https://i.imgur.com/I8zltEv.jpg

And yes, I messed up when I was boring the inlay holes so I have dots at 11 and 13 as well as the double dot at 12, sue me :D

Also my perennially almost done, but never quite completed bass:
https://i.imgur.com/m6YWUCb.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/cZy4tYa.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/opcV9ln.jpg

[alexcustos]

Originally posted by KellyR:

So tuning is just an annoyance I don't want to have to waste time on, basically. I honestly can't imagine being intimidated by tuning.

Never mind, I was being sarcastic. I didn't even forget to add a smile, btw. Of course, keeping the guitar in tune is a chore that makes no sense from some point.

[𝙿𝚘́𝚕]

I never used to give tuning my guitar a second thought but now that my attention's been drawn to what a nauseous waste of time the whole process is I just can't be bothered with it all any more.
Thankfully someones invented a device that does the whole thing for me. Well not quite the whole process - I still have to move my hands n' sht...

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Automatic-Metronome-Electric-12-String-Alternate/dp/B08N325W3L